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wow hard to believe Haye didnt have the guts to go through with it.

His boxing money value is severely diminished.

Hayemaker must have finally come to the same conclusion that I did. Wladimir was ready to take him the fawk down like a clown.

Maybe it will be rescheduled.

When they dont tell us a reason what is wrong with Haye, thats pretty low down petty pussy chit.
 
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OK now I have read that his back was injured.

Then I just read on boxing news that its his hand that was injured.

which was it . Geez Louise.

Hayes wants to postpone the fight for 3 weeks, but that is no guarantee the fight will go off.

Wladimir looking to do a fight June 20 and possibly fighting Chegrovov . sp

Hayes will not be able to get another shot unless he fights a few contending Heavyweights. I think we all know that would not be a good idea.
 

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David Haye off the card as Wladimir Klitschko sets up title fight with Ruslan ChagaevBuzz up!



Wladimir Klitschko will face Ruslan Chagaev in Gelsenkirchen later this month after the Uzbek fighter stepped in as a replacement for the injured David Haye.

Haye withdrew on Wednesday but rather than cancel the fight, Klitschko sought a new opponent with all 60,000 tickets already sold for the June 20 date.

Klitschko, who holds the IBF, IBO and WBF heavyweight crowns, will face the WBA champion with the winner collecting the Ring Magazine heavyweight crown, vacant since Vitali Klitschko's retirement in 2005.

"It is sad that David cannot compete," Klitschko said in a statement. "However, I am looking into the future and forward to fighting against Ruslan. He is WBA Champion, very experienced and a tough challenger.

"For my preparation, I have to change my sparring partner from orthodox to southpaw."
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OK replacement has been found.

I am looking at this new matchup now.

Still no odds yet that I have seen.
 

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BoxingScene.com has been advised that HBO is not interested in a potential heavyweight fight between IBF/WBO champion Wladimir Klitschko and undefeated Ruslan Chagaev. HBO would rather have Klitschko fight David Haye on July 11. Haye had been scheduled to fight Klitschko on June 20 in Germany, but withdrew on Wednesday with a back injury. Klitschko would like to go forward on the June date with Chagaev. [details]
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not sure wtf is going on

HBO !
 

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Lewis sees Klitschko's easy command and warns Haye off hasty challengeBuzz up!

David Haye has been warned by Britain's former world heavyweight champion Lennox Lewis that he is not yet ready to take on the current champion Wladimir Klitschko, who successfully defended his WBO, IBF and IBO belts by knocking out the American southpaw Tony Thompson in the 11th round of their title fight here on Saturday.

Lewis, who dominated the heavyweights for much of the decade before his retirement, was in Germany commentating for the US television network HBO on a fight that confirmed Klitschko's status as the world No1 but also underlined the current paucity of talent in the division that has encouraged Haye, the undisputed world cruiserweight champion, to believe he can step up in weight to defeat Klitschko.

"It's very early for David Haye right now," said Lewis. "People keep asking me about him and I tell them he has real talent. He's very good, he's upcoming, he can punch and he's very capable. I know he's calling out Wladimir Klitschko right now but I don't think he's ready yet. But 18 months down the line? Maybe then he has what it takes."
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this was awhile back but cant help to believe that Haye had to back out so to speak because he realized it was too early to try it against Wladimir.

that pussychops
 

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Saturday Morning Notes: Klitschko-Chagaev is official, Haye-Arreola may come
Jun 6, 2009 7:49 AM EDT in News

Wladimir Klitschko's June 20 fight with Ruslan Chagaev will not be televised by HBO, though the company has gladly offered up far less intriguing fights from Klitschko in recent times.

HBO has passed on airing Klitschko-Chagaev, as it had been said they would. It's kind of a shame when you really think about it. I know the economy is what it is and everyone's tightening the belts, but Klitschko-Chagaev is a far more interesting and more significant fight than any of his last six fights, all of which were aired by HBO. The Ibragimov stinker of 2008 had some significance since it unified Ibragimov's WBO title with Klitschko's IBF/IBO pair, but we're crowning a real world champion now, and Chagaev is a tough proposition, a lefty with some thump who's in his prime years. If he beats Klitschko, don't be stunned. Klitschko-Chagaev isn't as intriguing a fight as Klitschko-Haye was, but it beats the crap out of the bombs that HBO has fed us from Wladimir the last few years. It's disappointing that they passed. Maybe I'm the only one that feels that way, but we all put in time watching those rotten fights, and here comes the most interesting one he's had in years and American fans will be looking to internet feeds from Germany.

For the record, the Ring Magazine championship will be joined by Klitschko's WBO, IBF and IBO titles as well as Chagaev's WBA title. All are on the line in this one.

This whole goofy heavyweight scenario of the last week is really worth a recap, just so you can wrap your brains around it: Chagaev's rematch with Nikolai Valuev is scrapped because of Chagaev having Hepatitis B, and the Finnish regulators putting the kibosh on that whole mess. Chagaev, a week later, is healthy enough to fight in Germany, replacing Haye, who pulled out because of a back injury that will be fixed with physical therapy within three weeks' time.

There's a whole lot to not like about both situations (and this one, honestly), but at the end of the day we're getting a totally legit fight for the division.

I think it's also worth saying that maybe Klitschko taking this fight and not waiting on the chance that Haye will be ready to go in a few weeks is Wladimir and his team sending a bit of an F-you to Haye, who talked and wore borderline obscene shirts and really got under Wlad's skin during their press tour, only to pull out of the fight. With Klitschko taking the Chagaev fight, it puts Haye at the end of the line. Alexander Povetkin is the next mandatory for Klitschko assuming Wladimir beats Chagaev.
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I wonder what channel may pick the fight up ?

Maybe ESPN or certainly a PPV.
 

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Chris Arreola is waiting for a mandatory shot, too. Haye now has to fight someone.

On that topic, Rick Reeno of BoxingScene.com is reporting that Arreola and Haye just might work out a fight. It's a very attractive TV matchup, a potential cracker of a fight, and would feel in many ways like a true eliminator. Neither guy has beaten the top competition at heavyweight and, frankly, questions surround both.

But a fight between Arreola and Haye is not even close to a done deal. If Dan Goossen and Arreola have their druthers, they'll be fighting WBC titlist Vitali Klitschko in the near future. Vitali's case against the WBC -- which is trying to make the titlist fight about 38 mandatories in a row thanks to their absurd rankings and presents to fighters like Oleg Maskaev, of all the people -- will soon be hashed out. If Vitali gets his way, he'll fight Arreola, apparently.

If he doesn't, Arreola-Haye is a real possibility, and Vitali will be stuck fighting Maskaev and trying to land that fight on HBO or Showtime despite its complete lack of appeal.

One more bit about Haye: Everyone in his camp is "baffled" by his injury, :142smilie :scared :142smilie
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We may never see Haye fight one of the Klit boys

Just out of revenge on his dumb ass.

Haye is a pussychops for dumping the fight.
 

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In looking early at Chris Arreola he is a American heavyweight at 239 lbs. He would be a huge test for Haye to take on.

Arreola comes at his opponents non stop swinging and has gotten his unbeaten record with a clump of KOs. He fights like a bull in a china shop. Walker put him down in their fight as Arreola dropped to a knee and took a 8 count.

Haye said he had never seen him fight but from his pictures he looked disgraceful.

As Ronald Reagan once said "there is goes again."

If these two fight it will be a tossup and someone will get knocked the fawk out. It would be a true test to see if Haye can fight with the big boys.

Haye will put on some weight during his back injury layoff:142smilie

He will need to come in at 220 in his next fight.

No way he can compete at 200 lbs in this heavyweight venue.
 
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Arreola is a fascinating study. He has fought 26 times and you'd have to be an editor for Ring Magazine to recognize the names of his vanquished. He tends to be overweight, and fight that way. He has tattoos everywhere, drives one of those huge pickup trucks that should come with a ladder just to get you into the driver's seat and he has a close friend and manager who, at 31, is younger and less battle-tested than the punching bags in the gym.

"My goal for this year," Arreola says, "is to make Henry Ramirez coach of the year."

Arreola's first shot at the real big time: the Staples bout against Ukrainian Vitali Klitschko.

"Vitali said he wants to fight us there," Ramirez says, "so we will."

Arreola is not a big-talking hotshot.

One of his tattoos is about dying young and is dedicated to his best friend, who died from bullet wounds after a gang invaded their party. He talks often about his 7-year-old daughter and has made a Yard House restaurant in a Riverside shopping mall one of his main hangouts. The bulk of the clientele, mostly schoolteachers and yuppie Lakers fans, have no idea who he is.

"Can't get in a lot of trouble there," he says.:cool:

Instead of talking tough, Arreola talks legacy, about how he wants to become the Mexican equivalent of Jack Johnson. Arreola was born in East Los Angeles, and seems to know the value of being a heavyweight champion with a Spanish surname.

"I want to leave a legacy," Arreola says. "I want to open the door for a lot of my people. I believe that, when I'm done, there will be two heavyweights of Mexican descent in the top 10.

"One time, when I was out, I had a big Mexican kid come up to me and say he looked up to me. I felt very good."

Arreola says legacy is built on longevity.

"When I get the title, I want to defend it three times a year," he says. "I want to win it, and defend it, and keep at it."

Larry Merchant says. "It's a test. He needs one of those to convince people that he is a serious heavyweight. Some still see him as a B-level club fighter."

Arreola's last fight, in November at Citizens Business Bank Arena in Ontario, had elements of that. He actually was knocked down by journeyman Travis Walker but rallied to knock Walker out in the third round.

It was a fight that also had the elements of great old-time heavyweight action. Huge punches. Both fighters on the canvas and against the ropes. More action packed into two-and-a-fraction rounds than you'll see on many entire fight cards.

Whether Arreola can take that brute force into the ring with an opponent who has the same, as well as boxing skills and movement, and prevail remains to be seen. The big guy from Riverside has a chance and a challenge. He can become the next heavyweight hope, or the next heavyweight dope
 
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Well back to the business at hand .

Got to hand it to Rusian C. He has some big kahunes to get in the ring and beat the Giant for 12 rounds.

Got to think that the reason HBO is backing
out of this fight is that they can see a dance lesson on the horizon on June 20th and are not willing to support another effort like that from Klit.

Hayes would have forced the action with Wladimir and given the public a good fight to watch on HBO.

Rusian C will be glad to be in there pounding , hoping for a chance that Klit will make a mistake.
Which he wont.

Kilt will easily be able to keep Rusian C at bay with his left jab and pound him out in spurts.

I am surprised I have not seen numbers posted for the Klit Vs Rusian yet. Got to think Klit will be about the same chalk as for Haye.:shrug:
 
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2005
03-26 -- Sherman Williams, Riesa, Germany, W 8
09-28 -- Jucimar Francisco Hipolito, Hamburg, Germany, TKO 1
10-22 -- Mark Krence, Saale, Germany, KO 5

2006
01-07 -- Rob Calloway, M?nchen, Germany, KO 2
03-11 -- Vladimir Virchis, Hamburg, Germany, W 12
07-15 -- Michael Sprott, Hamburg, Germany, TKO 8
11-18 -- John Ruiz, D?sseldorf, Germany, W 12

2007
04-14 -- Nikolay Valuev, Stuttgart, Germany, W 12 *RECAP*
(Won WBA Heavyweight Title)

2008
01-19 -- Matt Skelton, Dusseldorf, Germany, W 12
(Retained WBA Heavyweight Title)
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Very hard to be impressed with Rusian C fights for the last 3 years. If he had knocked out John Ruiz
or the Giant, then I would say he has something going on , and a good chance vs Wladimir.

Rusian C hasnt fought since Jan 2008 ? that is a very long layoff for a heavyweight. And then to step into the ring on short notice with Wladimir K
is not something that will be career building.

As it is, it looks like a non eventful mismatch again, which is what we are used to with Klits fights.

This is the obvious reason HBO saiid no thianks.
They had the fight the American audience wanted to see. The Germans will be happy to pay to see these two go at it. Gooden sa ben
 
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Fortunately, it's looking like ESPN will be picking up the fight and broadcasting it -- either on the flagship network or ESPN Classic. The Klitschkos are all about exposure and they have no desire to make a quick buck by putting the fight on an obscure Pay-Per-View. But it's unfortunate that HBO, which does a terrific job with its broadcasts, won't be a part of it.
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Looks like the fight will start right about the time Tiger Woods is playing in the US Open this Saturday.

Still no lines up for this fight.

It seems very odd to me. Bewildering at the least.
 

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Wladimir Klitschko vs Rushlan Chagaev
Wladimir Klitschko -500
Rushlan Chagaev +400
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no wonder they waited so long to post these lines. Thats laughable

And no wonder HBO backed the fawk out of this fight.

:142smilie :142smilie
 

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6/20/2009 3:00 PM Wladimir Klitschko vs Rushlan Chagaev
Wladimir Klitschko -700
Rushlan Chagaev +525
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-700 :142smilie :142smilie


Going to have to play the prop bets to win money on this fight.

They are giving Chagaev no fawking chance at all.
 

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June 20, 2009 - Klitschko vs Chagaev

6/20/2009 3:00 PM Wladimir Klitschko vs Rushlan Chagaev

Wladimir Klitschko -750
Rushlan Chagaev +525

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Line on Klit rises to -750 :scared

that sounds like a sure thing there.

:142smilie :142smilie

I will laugh my ass off if Rusian knocks him out
 

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/20/2009 3:00 PM Wladimir Klitschko vs Rushlan Chagaev
Wladimir Klitschko -800
Rushlan Chagaev +550
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its almost to the point where I may have to lay something on Chagaev.
 

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I watched Chagaev-Drummond and didn't like what i saw; Chagaev's overal mobility seems to have decreased following his achiles heels rupture.

He will need all of it if he wants to hear the last bell.
 
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