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didn`t want to get involved in this clusterfuck but theres an interesting aspect looming on the horizon that the nfl is going to have to deal with.....

when they fined and suspended indefinitely this guy don jones for two one word tweets,they had every right to do so(because the league believes that the guy`s public communications and conduct reflect on the league).....I`m ok with that although I would say that the indefinite suspension might be a tad harsh...a sharp fine and an ass chewing(no pun intended) would seem sufficient without putting a fringe player`s career in jeopardy(but that`s just my opinion...it`s not my league)....

still,neither the league(or the ravens) have yet to do anything to ray rice for allegedly knocking his girlfriend out and dragging her ass unconscious around a hotel/casino like a caveman...I believe he`s been charged with domestic assault.....I mean,i understand that there are litigation and charges pending,but, theres video evidence of him dragging her around and dropping her in an elevator doorway apparently unconcerned for her well being.....seems to me like this isn`t going to endear a league that`s trying to expand it`s female fanbase to female fans.......even vick was welcomed back(reprehensible s.o.b. that he is...and I`m not even going to bring the ray lewis issue up).....


if two brief tweets can get a guy an indefinite suspension,rice`s ass should be in a whole helluva lot more trouble than jones.....I`m a ravens fan,but imo,the league and the ravens had better wield a pretty heavy hammer on rice to seem somewhat proportionate........ unless the penalty is more proportionate to the status of the player than the crime.....

I guess we`ll see in due time...i
 
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I am not stooping to your level Cris, have a nice life :sadwave:

Bottom line is it was disgusting to see this kind of behavior on tv, not one heterosexual player in the history of the draft did this dramatic cake on the face thing, I believe it was staged by Disney/ESPN, Roger wanted to make sure Sam was drafted so there would not be a lawsuit brought up against the NFL. Michael Sam is about Michael Sam, a selfish guy that would not have been drafted if he didn't come out as gay, his skills as a linebacker/defensive end are not very good.

what he said doesn't warrant a response from me , you would think I was the devil all I did was disagree with him and the others that find it great two dudes kissed during the nfl draft:shrug:

Trust me there are millions of other people that feel the same way I do about it

hey fatty boom boom, know when the last player who won SEC defensive player of the year wasnt drafted?

cant find that information?

oh thats right, it has never happened.

since the award came to be, only 2 players (3 now including Sam) werent drafted in the 1st round.

dipshit.

I think he is smart too, he would not have been drafted had he been straight, it was scripted by Disney and ESPN to make a political statement

If endorsements don't work out he could have his own reality tv show on the LOGO channel?

The Rams will be on Hard Knocks I am sure


Hedge,
I am going to try to explain this to you the best I can. Your actions/posts in this thread illustrate exactly why people take issue with you. For the past few months you have been presenting yourself as the new and improved you. You weren't going to get into arguments or make comments that piss everyone off and then say you were just playing around, etc... It was all bullshit. It's like you are Fox fucking news or something. You keep stating that it was orchestrated by Disney or whatever the fuck, repeating it over and over again doesn't ever make anything true. You vomit these inane assumptions into a conversation that make no fucking sense, then when called on the stupidity of your statement, as Airportis did, and proven wrong you simply ignore it and keep spewing this stupid, childish shit. The most frustrating thing is that every fucking person in here knows exactly what you are mad about and exactly why you are saying this shit. Your pissed off at the fucking gay dude has realized his dream and truly accomplished something. He got drafted. Fuck dude, you couldn't get drafted by the Salvation Army let alone the NFL. That's why you're pissed and hate him. He's gay and he has accomplished something with his life. You have a cubicle. Ignoring the truth when presented with it doesn't diminish the fact that it's still the truth. You're sitting at home, forcing your kids to watch round 7 of the NFL draft on a Saturday night, got the Zimas on ice next to the sittin chair and ready to celebrate because the fag didn't get drafted and boom, pick 247 or whatever hits. Whatever semblance of self esteem is washed away like a quart of Cold Stone Creamery after midnight. That's what it really is Hedge. The LOGO channel comment is more contrived than the cake smear by the way, just saying. I digress, everyone here knows you're a bigot dude. The proof is all over this site. You can't deny it, so quit trying. That's what pisses people off is you try to deny it. You can't even admit to yourself when you are wrong let alone that you may have some social issues. You don't play well with others Hedge.
I wasn't excited to see a gay dude smearing cake on his boyfriend's face, nor was I disappointed or disgraced. I wasn't even watching it to be honest, who the fuck cares at that point. The point is, it didn't affect me one way or the other. Who gives a fuck. Who gives a fuck it was on TV. Who gives a fuck that Ellen is gay, she's great at what she does and is apparently very entertaining. Neither her nor Michael Sam have ever done a fucking thing to you. They don't make stupid ass posts when they see two breeders kissing, because they understand that just because someone doesn't think or act just like them, doesn't give them the right to ridicule them. Don't you get that man? You aren't special and you aren't right. Your an ant in an ant hill. Go gnaw some crickets fucking leg off, bring it back to the hill, stroke the larvae and shut the fuck up. That's it. You had every opportunity to take the high road, instead you chose to make shit up, make shitty and hurtful comments about someone's lifestyle, and act exactly like the same old Hedge you always were. I swear man, it's just so frustrating for me. I just can't wrap my head around someone being that fucking...................................................I don't know.............ignorant, socially inept? Look at your life dude, seriously, look at it. You can't keep a woman, by your own admission, your drinking is or was getting out of control. You sent your ex-girlfriend shopping with your daughter for her fucking birthday?!?!?!?! I mean, who fucking does that? You have so many things in your own life to fix, the last thing you need to worry about is a cake smearing queer, which by the way is no longer accepted nomenclature for alternate lifestyle types. I sounded better for effect. Trust me when I tell you that I am trying to help you here, fix your fucking self Hedge. You aren't right at this particular time. If you don't want to fix it then shut the fuck up when you get bitch slapped for your hatred.


Hope this helps,

FDC
 

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Hedge,
I am going to try to explain this to you the best I can. Your actions/posts in this thread illustrate exactly why people take issue with you. For the past few months you have been presenting yourself as the new and improved you. You weren't going to get into arguments or make comments that piss everyone off and then say you were just playing around, etc... It was all bullshit. It's like you are Fox fucking news or something. You keep stating that it was orchestrated by Disney or whatever the fuck, repeating it over and over again doesn't ever make anything true. You vomit these inane assumptions into a conversation that make no fucking sense, then when called on the stupidity of your statement, as Airportis did, and proven wrong you simply ignore it and keep spewing this stupid, childish shit. The most frustrating thing is that every fucking person in here knows exactly what you are mad about and exactly why you are saying this shit. Your pissed off at the fucking gay dude has realized his dream and truly accomplished something. He got drafted. Fuck dude, you couldn't get drafted by the Salvation Army let alone the NFL. That's why you're pissed and hate him. He's gay and he has accomplished something with his life. You have a cubicle. Ignoring the truth when presented with it doesn't diminish the fact that it's still the truth. You're sitting at home, forcing your kids to watch round 7 of the NFL draft on a Saturday night, got the Zimas on ice next to the sittin chair and ready to celebrate because the fag didn't get drafted and boom, pick 247 or whatever hits. Whatever semblance of self esteem is washed away like a quart of Cold Stone Creamery after midnight. That's what it really is Hedge. The LOGO channel comment is more contrived than the cake smear by the way, just saying. I digress, everyone here knows you're a bigot dude. The proof is all over this site. You can't deny it, so quit trying. That's what pisses people off is you try to deny it. You can't even admit to yourself when you are wrong let alone that you may have some social issues. You don't play well with others Hedge.
I wasn't excited to see a gay dude smearing cake on his boyfriend's face, nor was I disappointed or disgraced. I wasn't even watching it to be honest, who the fuck cares at that point. The point is, it didn't affect me one way or the other. Who gives a fuck. Who gives a fuck it was on TV. Who gives a fuck that Ellen is gay, she's great at what she does and is apparently very entertaining. Neither her nor Michael Sam have ever done a fucking thing to you. They don't make stupid ass posts when they see two breeders kissing, because they understand that just because someone doesn't think or act just like them, doesn't give them the right to ridicule them. Don't you get that man? You aren't special and you aren't right. Your an ant in an ant hill. Go gnaw some crickets fucking leg off, bring it back to the hill, stroke the larvae and shut the fuck up. That's it. You had every opportunity to take the high road, instead you chose to make shit up, make shitty and hurtful comments about someone's lifestyle, and act exactly like the same old Hedge you always were. I swear man, it's just so frustrating for me. I just can't wrap my head around someone being that fucking...................................................I don't know.............ignorant, socially inept? Look at your life dude, seriously, look at it. You can't keep a woman, by your own admission, your drinking is or was getting out of control. You sent your ex-girlfriend shopping with your daughter for her fucking birthday?!?!?!?! I mean, who fucking does that? You have so many things in your own life to fix, the last thing you need to worry about is a cake smearing queer, which by the way is no longer accepted nomenclature for alternate lifestyle types. I sounded better for effect. Trust me when I tell you that I am trying to help you here, fix your fucking self Hedge. You aren't right at this particular time. If you don't want to fix it then shut the fuck up when you get bitch slapped for your hatred.


Hope this helps,

FDC
I give you an A for effort........You can not fix this brother. People that are not willing to change, never do!!! Fear is ignorance turned inside out, those that fear difference yield ignorance. It is that simple, and nothing you can say will change the fear....... Insecurity of people that are not "the norm" according to biblical term should be looked down upon based on thousands of years of anarchy. I do appreciate you and your attempt to help him in his obvious intolerance of people being different. If we were all the same, how fucking boring would this world really be? Peace out!
 

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I can't understand why Hedge is getting so much shit over this. I would say 75% of the players in the NFL don't want Sam in the locker room. They are afraid to say anything because they will be suspended, fined, or lose endorsements. Just because Hedge wasn't comfortable seeing that on tv doesn't make him a homophobe. I don't think he is wrong not wanting children to see it. Gays should have all the rights as normal people but the bottom line is that isn't normal behavior. If it was normal behavior the human race would die off pretty fast.
 
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Is that his mother in the picture ?......smiling encouraging and acting like it is perfectly normal to see her son kissing a member of his own sex ?......That is sick. If you are a parent and your child comes out of the closet as a homosexual do you take it with a grain of salt ? Did she raise him to be a homosexual ? I doubt it. If you are raising your children to be homosexuals you are one sick MOFO. Say goodbye to the grandchildren...........end of the fucking line. And as long as we are honoring gay marriage lets be fair to everybody. I'm sure there are a lot of beastiality fans out there who would like to marry their dog or their horse who we are discriminating against.
 
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I can't understand why Hedge is getting so much shit over this. I would say 75% of the players in the NFL don't want Sam in the locker room. They are afraid to say anything because they will be suspended, fined, or lose endorsements. Just because Hedge wasn't comfortable seeing that on tv doesn't make him a homophobe. I don't think he is wrong not wanting children to see it. Gays should have all the rights as normal people but the bottom line is that isn't normal behavior. If it was normal behavior the human race would die off pretty fast.

Hedgie doesn't get shit because he has traditional or conservative values. He gets shit for his classless presentation of said "values". It's really obvious. Read his posts Even in this very thread he makes up a story about walking out on lunch with friends because he saw two guys kiss. That's fairly homophobic behavior. Feel free to agree with him, but don't be surprised when he takes shit.
 

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I can't understand why Hedge is getting so much shit over this. I would say 75% of the players in the NFL don't want Sam in the locker room. They are afraid to say anything because they will be suspended, fined, or lose endorsements. Just because Hedge wasn't comfortable seeing that on tv doesn't make him a homophobe. I don't think he is wrong not wanting children to see it. Gays should have all the rights as normal people but the bottom line is that isn't normal behavior. If it was normal behavior the human race would die off pretty fast.

Is that his mother in the picture ?......smiling encouraging and acting like it is perfectly normal to see her son kissing a member of his own sex ?......That is sick. If you are a parent and your child comes out of the closet as a homosexual do you take it with a grain of salt ? Did she raise him to be a homosexual ? I doubt it. If you are raising your children to be homosexuals you are one sick MOFO. Say goodbye to the grandchildren...........end of the fucking line. And as long as we are honoring gay marriage lets be fair to everybody. I'm sure there are a lot of beastiality fans out there who would like to marry their dog or their horse who we are discriminating against.

While one vilifies homosexuality as being "abnormal," the other equates it to beastiality. And back-to-back as well. Just perfect.

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And as long as we are honoring gay marriage lets be fair to everybody. I'm sure there are a lot of beastiality fans out there who would like to marry their dog or their horse who we are discriminating against.

Go on.....
 

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I can't understand why Hedge is getting so much shit over this. I would say 75% of the players in the NFL don't want Sam in the locker room. They are afraid to say anything because they will be suspended, fined, or lose endorsements. Just because Hedge wasn't comfortable seeing that on tv doesn't make him a homophobe. I don't think he is wrong not wanting children to see it. Gays should have all the rights as normal people but the bottom line is that isn't normal behavior. If it was normal behavior the human race would die off pretty fast.

Hall of Fame post there Mr Hound

You are 100% correct sir
 

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Is that his mother in the picture ?......smiling encouraging and acting like it is perfectly normal to see her son kissing a member of his own sex ?......That is sick. If you are a parent and your child comes out of the closet as a homosexual do you take it with a grain of salt ? Did she raise him to be a homosexual ? I doubt it. If you are raising your children to be homosexuals you are one sick MOFO. Say goodbye to the grandchildren...........end of the fucking line. And as long as we are honoring gay marriage lets be fair to everybody. I'm sure there are a lot of beastiality fans out there who would like to marry their dog or their horse who we are discriminating against.

exactly :0008
 

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Is that his mother in the picture ?......smiling encouraging and acting like it is perfectly normal to see her son kissing a member of his own sex ?......That is sick. If you are a parent and your child comes out of the closet as a homosexual do you take it with a grain of salt ? Did she raise him to be a homosexual ? I doubt it. If you are raising your children to be homosexuals you are one sick MOFO. Say goodbye to the grandchildren...........end of the fucking line. And as long as we are honoring gay marriage lets be fair to everybody. I'm sure there are a lot of beastiality fans out there who would like to marry their dog or their horse who we are discriminating against.

Glad to see we can work in the sanctity of marriage angle finally.

Tell you what Statman, you seem decent enough and have a way about convincing me to see things your way. Whenever the legal issue of marrying an animal comes up in my state, I?m going to cast my vote proudly in favor of it. And I?m going to walk away knowing I did right for you and your Shetland pony Trigger, one day you guys will get to proudly display your love for each other by smearing cake on each other or however you deem appropriate.
 

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Glad to see we can work in the sanctity of marriage angle finally.

Tell you what Statman, you seem decent enough and have a way about convincing me to see things your way. Whenever the legal issue of marrying an animal comes up in my state, I?m going to cast my vote proudly in favor of it. And I?m going to walk away knowing I did right for you and your Shetland pony Trigger, one day you guys will get to proudly display your love for each other by smearing cake on each other or however you deem appropriate.

I'm guessing carrot cake
 
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