Michigan is gonna smoke Ohio St.

[mademan]

some stats.....

some stats.....

-Michigan is averaging 37.4 ppg - opponents 15.5 - OSU is averaging 24 ppg - opponents 14.6

-Chris Perry leads the nation in rushing with 1,435 yds with 17 td's - the OSU rb by committee has 1312 yds with 27 td's.

-Navarre has passed for 2,782 yds with 21 td's and 8 int's - Krenzel has passed for 1,404 yds with 9 td's and 8 int's.

-Braylon Edwards (901 yds / 12 td's) Jason Avant (706 yds / 2 td's) Steve Breaston (360 yds / 3 td's)
-Michael Jenkins (483 yds / 5 td's) Drew Carter [out] (410 yds 1 td) Santonio Holmes (319 yds / 3 td's)

ahhh, enough of this, stats don't matter in this game! Fact is...OSU's offense is missing and they've survived on alot of luck, some calls that went their way and a good defense. Michigan has lost 2 games by a combined 7 points and both were a direct result of special teams. (the punt team to be exact) Last year is exactly that....last year!

Even though OSU is closing in on USC and are ranked #3 in the BCS they will still be more than a 3 point underdog in this game...why???? Other than Miami...when was the last time OSU was an underdog? Think about it...if they are as good as all their backers think, then why are they a dog? Just because they're on the road against their rival? That might be good for around 3 points so we'll see what the line comes out at.

I say 6 1/2 or 7.
Regardless, GL with whomever you take (if anybody) but I'm laying the points.

 

[Nickelback]

Ok, my turn to chime in on this one:


First off, I see a lot of comparisons of this Ohio State team to last year's team. . . there's no way you can tell me OSU is as good as last year. . . they were much more balanced with a greater offensive threat (especially at running back obviously). As good as Michigan is against the run this year, I imagine they will focus against any passing attack OSU has. Should be a major advantage this year as opposed to last year. Just as OSU isn't as balanced as last year, Michigan is very balanced all around. Has Ohio State faced a balanced offensive attack all year long as good as Michigan's at Michigan? I'll leave that up for you to decide.

Ohio State is a very lucky team. . . I mean that in the best way possible. . . I think the announcers today made the right distinction when they said OSU makes their own luck. . . they do so with turnovers and special teams. Special teams advantage is certainly with OSU IMO. However, if you expect OSU to get to Navarre against Michigan's O line, I think its a stretch. Navarre should have good protection as he has had all year long. . . even against this defense.

Can Ohio State win? Sure, as long as they play a perfect game IMO. But that's asking a lot especially when this game is on the road. The only distinct advantage I really see for OSU is special teams which could factor in if the game is close, but the real problem is Ohio State will have to score offensive touchdowns to contend. I don't think they can against the Wolves. Just look at what Michigan has done against Big Ten teams with mediocre offenses. . .especially as of late.

Yes, I am biased for Michigan and maybe I'm overlooking something. . . if this game was played in Ohio State, I'd lay off. But at Michigan where Navarre has played well, I think I'll have to bite!

 

[Goiing Gone]

OSU hammers the big skunks:::Nivea will have his usual bail game, mark my word.

 

[bjfinste]

My theory is that Perry will be rendered useless against this D and it will be up to Navarre to win it. And I just don't think Navarre can get it done. Maybe Michigan will win. But if they do, it'll be like 14-9 or something of that nature. Again, I'm not an OSU fan at all, although I'll admit I can't stand Michigan. This is going to be a close, close game with little offense. If OSU is getting more than 5, I don't see how you could lay the points. The under may be the strongest bet of them all.

 

[mademan]

OSU hammers the big skunks:::Nivea will have his usual bail game, mark my word.

Hammers em? C'mon dude, be real. There's a realistic chance that OSU can beat Michigan...hell, they've done it the last 2 years, but I know they won't "hammer em".

What "usual game" will Navarre have? Will it be like ND when he threw for 251 and a TD? Or like Minny, when he threw for 352 and 2 td's? Or like Purdue, when he threw for 225 with 2 td's. Oh, wait... maybe you mean against MSU when he threw for 223 with 3 td's (even when Perry ran it 51 times for 219). Must be NW, where he threw for 288 with 2 td's. Hell, even if you mean the "usual game" is 1 of the 2 losses, where he threw for a combined 748 yds with 5 td's, I'll take that!

If you take OSU + the points...good luck. At least tell me why I should change my mind.

 

[Scott4USC]

Ohio St. could not even hammer San Diego St. @ home. YIKES! Even worse, SDSU was playing their 2nd string QB! YIKES!

I give credit to OSU, they find a way to win. Too bad there is not a playoff system because it would be interesting to see OSU find a way to win against USC or OU, because neither team would hand them the NC like Miami did with 5 turnovers.

 

[pt1gard]

line was 4 LW

line was 4 LW

prob be 5 now IMO

i have bet on oh st once in last 2 years, yep their only loss ... I have mich +120 to win big 10, so Im sure Ill lose again hehe

gl, gregg

 

[bjfinste]

neither team would hand them the NC like Miami did with 5 turnovers.

So Ohio State's defense doesn't get any credit for forcing these turnovers? Give me a break.

Somebody told me today Purdue should've won because OSU's defensive touchdown was "lucky bullshit". It was??? That's funny, because I thought it's because OSU's d-backs had lockdown coverage, and it's d-line collapsed the pocket forcing Purdue's QB to scramble and get nailed and lose the ball. Which, of course, was all set up by OSU's special teams unit which pinned Purdue deep. But then again, that doesn't matter. OSU sucks because they don't have a good offense.

 

[worm44]

 

[The Big Tease]

Hey bjfinste...do you ever get the idea that the only people that appreciate what Ohio State does are the people that seem intelligent to football? Your last post CLEARLY explains Buckeye Ball. It IS NOT PRETTY. I have no problem admitting that, but if you watched the game....our punter repeatedly put Purdue inside the 20 and many times inside the 10. Their average starting position was their own 18 yard line. That is what we do EVERYTIME we play! We have no intentions to go in and blow teams out. We are virtually incapable to do it. We get the ball...try to pick up a few first downs, if we have to punt, OK, lets bring out the best defense in the country! Stop em....our field position improves a little bit....we get the ball at about the 50....pick up a couple more first downs....maybe kick a field goal, maybe pin 'em deeper, maybe try down the field for a touchdown. but it is all done on THEIR side of the field! That is the way they play, and it is obviously effective! That is now 24 out of 25! And yes.....we CREATE our own luck! Turnovers are not luck. Not when you force them, and you dont turn the ball over yourself. We DID NOT turn the ball over yesterday against a VERY experienced and opportunistic defense for Purdue.


You guys can say lucky.....I say we have...

1.) The best defense in the country
2.) The best field goal kicker in the country.
3.) A VERY effective punter and special teams.
4.) An offense that does not turn the ball over.

And you guys cant appreciate that, then you simply never played football in your life and you are ENGULFED in media hype that says that you have to chuck the ball around and score 40 points a game.

And for the comment about Miami handing us the National Championship...sorry pal, we TOOK it. Miami had not seen a defense like ours and we FORCED turnovers. That is how it was won.

GO BUCKS! ONE MORE!

 

[mademan]

You guys can say lucky.....I say we have...
1.) The best defense in the country
2.) The best field goal kicker in the country.
3.) A VERY effective punter and special teams.
4.) An offense that does not turn the ball over.

1.Best defense?...probably top 5 in the country, but not #1.
2. I'll take Nate Kaeding over Nugent any day. Nugent won't win the Groza award.
3. Effective punter and special teams? Yes they are. They're on the field enough.
4. No turnovers by the offense....knock on wood

Ohio State is gonna come ready to play, no doubt, and Tressel will have a good game plan. They will be full of confidence from winning the last 2 in this series which may hurt them. They have not faced an offense like this all year and won't be able to stop Perry, Navarre and the receiving corps. Dustin Fox will have alot of trouble trying to cover any of the 3 receivers.

Another prediction....Steve Breaston (freshman) will return a kick for a TD.

 

[BUCKY1]

I think Navarre is the X factor. If Buckeyes get to him and pressure him all day they win.
Should be a great game though.

 

[Lewey]

Kids, go to your room !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[mademan]

Carr gave us a sneak peak (at NW) of some things he'll show the buckeyes that he hasn't done all season.

Watch for Michigan to put #15 Steve Breaston under center. They did it once last week and it was the first time this year. If they do it...I expect a QB draw or a naked bootleg. Breaton has great vision and explosive speed. Also, they ran the reverse to Braylon Edwards for the first time. This is a play that usually goes to Breaston, but they gave it to Edwards and it went for 6.

I've seen OSU rush the punter alot this year and they do it well. Michigan's punt team is one of the worst in the league so it won't suprise me to see OSU block one.

 

[Stuman]

Same thread, different season. Except last year it started about 3-4 weeks prior to the game.

 

[mademan]

Bulliten Board Material

Bulliten Board Material

Is this the first of bulliten board material?

"I think we have the best defense in the Big Ten - probably the best in the nation."
Ernest Shazor referring to Safety Marlin Jackson being 100% for this game.

Also, a quote from NW...
After Michigan's 41-10 win over the Wildcats on Saturday, Northwestern linebacker Pat Durr was in a unique position to size up both teams. Northwestern also lost to Ohio State this season.

"By far, Michigan," Durr said when asked which is the best team in the Big Ten. "Offensively, they're balanced and they have so many weapons. Defensively, they fly around."

 

[The Big Tease]

one thing i can assure you....take the under.

 

[mademan]

Michigan -6 1/2 (Infinity) No total posted yet.
I'm in @ -6 1/2

 

[Brutus]

Gotta laugh at all the haters & non-believers...... can you
say 25-1?! Is that a fluke? 2 consecutive wins over team up north & a national title!
Give em hell Kosar:hail :hail :hail :clap: :clap: :clap:

 

[mademan]

Gotta laugh at all the haters & non-believers...... can you
say 25-1?! Is that a fluke? 2 consecutive wins over team up north & a national title!

I'm a hater & non-believer...so go ahead and laugh at me. (I'll get the last laugh)

25-1 is indeed impressive...but yes, it is a fluke.

2 consecutive wins over Michigan is nothing. I recall being on a 10-2 run recently.

BTW - I like your signature. "ANN ARBOR IS A WHORE"....That's just the way we like her!

Good Luck Saturday.