MMA odds/plays for April to July

[BUCSnotYUCKS]

Clay should change his name to "The Human Seatbelt" for sure......

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[The Sponge]

we do know that if he does take him down, he'll just lay on him and pray that Diego doesn't get up.

Clay Guida is the most deceiving MMA fighter there is. BORING AS HELL TO WATCH.

In 8 fights in the UFC, 5 of them have been decisions, it would've been 6 had Huerta not knocked him out with that vicious knee.

Not sure if anyone remember but in Clay's last fight his own corner was telling him to quit stalling and do something or the judges will take it away from him. Clay went right back to stalling lol. I think Dana is hoping for a loss by Clay so he can finally get rid of him. He knocked off two of his reality stars in a brutal glue like fashion. ughh

 

[gardenweasel]

Clay should change his name to "The Human Seatbelt" for sure......

"clay" seems pretty apropos...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Yj2oZiB95E&feature=related

 

[rawli007]

"clay" seems pretty apropos...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Yj2oZiB95E&feature=related

good point, GW... maybe he should just go by "clay"

Not sure if anyone remember but in Clay's last fight his own corner was telling him to quit stalling and do something or the judges will take it away from him. Clay went right back to stalling lol. I think Dana is hoping for a loss by Clay so he can finally get rid of him. He knocked off two of his reality stars in a brutal glue like fashion. ughh

pretty sure he's been signed to a lengthy contract... he's able to fight a lot and has lots of fans b/c of his energy.

He's very polite and respectful in his post-fight interviews, and for that i like him... he's just sort of a bland fighter IMO.

That said, Sanchez/Guida will be fast-paced and fun to watch.

 

[muhr]

i think diego will beat clay, i don't like the odds though. the odds are pretty much the same for diego vs. joe, clay is better than joe though, particularly with his wrestling and diego's wrestling hasn't been great. for example, diego's wrestling was inferior to both john alessio's and luigi fioravanti's. with the drop in weight his size should help him, but clay has been able to handle some pretty big opponents, such as josh thompson who walks around at about 180.

i'd like sanchez at around -200.

 

[gardenweasel]

i`m talking about sanchez va a real 155 pounder....i don`t think there`s one that can keep him on his back....

maybe muscle shark...but he spent quite a bit of time at 170...

truthfully,as much as i admire guida,he`s really limited...totally one dimensional..he can bully some 155`ers...not sanchez...he`s too big and talented....clay`s stand-up is just terrible...holding his hands under his jaw(good lord).....

he`s in deep doo-doo here,imo...sanchez is bigger and just plain better...

this will be worse than his split decision(ridiculous scoring)beatdown at the hands of gilbert melendez...

 

[gardenweasel]

i think diego will beat clay, i don't like the odds though. the odds are pretty much the same for diego vs. joe, clay is better than joe though, particularly with his wrestling and diego's wrestling hasn't been great. for example, diego's wrestling was inferior to both john alessio's and luigi fioravanti's. with the drop in weight his size should help him, but clay has been able to handle some pretty big opponents, such as josh thompson who walks around at about 180.

i'd like sanchez at around -200.

i love ya` muhr,...respect you as much as anybody on the board..but avoiding takedowns does not constitute "out wrestling" a guy,imo...

if he had out-wrestled sanchez he would have won the fight...alessio`s no stiff..

 

[kickserv]

Maybe it is just me, but Nathan Diaz at $1.83 (-120) looks mighty tasty:shocked:

Mir and Serra, I still can't believe those odds

 

[kickserv]

updating......and adding one play:


Michael Bisping beat Dan Henderson $4.00 (+300) *1.5 Joe Rogans...........PENDING

Frank Mir beat Brock Lesnar $3.35 (+235) *2 Joe Rogans..................PENDING

Matt Serra beat #1 Prick in MMA $3.15 (+215) *2 Joe Rogans............PENDING

Krzysztof Soszynski beat Brian Stann $1.63 (-159) *3 Joe Rogans..............WINNER (+1.89)


Parlay #1
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Anderson Silva beat Thales Leites...............WIN
Georges St-Pierre beat Thiago Alves...........PENDING

odds = $1.73 (-137) *5 Joe Rogans


Parlay #2
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Anderson Silva beat Thales Leites..............WIN
Georges St-Pierre beat Thiago Alves..........PENDING
Luis Cane beat Steve Cantwell..................WIN
Denis Kang beat Xavier Foupa-Pokam........WIN
Cain Velasquez beat Heath Herring............PENDING

odds = $4.03 (+303) *1 Joe Rogan


Parlay #3
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Anderson Silva beat Thales Leites.............WIN
Georges St-Pierre beat Thiago Alves.........PENDING
Cain Velasquez beat Heath Herring...........PENDING

odds = $2.20 (+120) *3 Joe Rogans

 

[RowdyRider]

OUCH, Thiago could very well kill all your $$ LOL

Oh, and putting money on Frank Mir is like throwing away $$$

Brock lost that fight because of nerves and over aggressiveness. He could've finished Herring, but he wanted to pound him for 3rounds...

Frank Mir has a glass chin, and Herring/Couture can take punches better...

I'll take Lesnar by KO/TKO in RD 1

 

[kickserv]

"Oh, and putting money on Frank Mir is like throwing away"



Mir has made me more money then almost any other fighter in MMA. Ask the board what they thought of my Mir bet against Nog. Go ahead ask em, brings up bad memories for some of em:142smilie

Mir also made me cash when he beat Lesner the first time. Mir = cash for kickserv:SIB

Also, Mir is in Lesner's head, Mir at those odds is one of the biggest gifts in all of gambling. Mir and Serra's odds are insane just insane:scared

 

[kickserv]

Lesner couldn't (and yes I say could not) finish a pathetic Herring. He had about 300 chances to finish him and he didn't. Please don't try to tell me "he didn't want to". He beat Couture because he was just so much bigger then Randy. Lesner lasted 90 seconds with Mir. Yes 90 seconds. He'll last a little longer this time but Mir will beat him in first round again. Some fights are done before you get in the cage, and I think this is one of em. I assure you Mir is in Lesners head. Kind of like Penn was in Sherk's head when they fought. Lesner knows he is in deep shit against Mir. He knows it, when you hear Lesner speak you know he's bullshitting himself. Lesner will take Mir down, Mir will grab a leg or arm and rip it off. And don't fool yourself with Brock's ground and pound power. I think the octagon girl Edith has more ground and pound power then Brock does:142smilie

Frank Mir at +235.......hello

 

[RowdyRider]

"Oh, and putting money on Frank Mir is like throwing away"



Mir has made me more money then almost any other fighter in MMA. Ask the board what they thought of my Mir bet against Nog. Go ahead ask em, brings up bad memories for some of em:142smilie

Mir also made me cash when he beat Lesner the first time. Mir = cash for kickserv:SIB

Also, Mir is in Lesner's head, Mir at those odds is one of the biggest gifts in all of gambling. Mir and Serra's odds are insane just insane:scared

He's in Lesnar's head? Nothing points to that, and I'm not sure how you draw that silly conclusion anyways...

That odds is just BEGGING for Mir $$$$ because of fight #1. You're doing exactly what Vegas wants.

I honestly thin Lesnar is a big mismatch for Mir, especially with much more training and a few fights under his belt. The only reason he beat Lesnar the first time was inexperience...Any fighter with even the slightest amount of training wouldn't tap from that leg lock. Lesnar would just get out of it, this time around.

 

[RowdyRider]

Lesner couldn't (and yes I say could not) finish a pathetic Herring. He had about 300 chances to finish him and he didn't. Please don't try to tell me "he didn't want to". He beat Couture because he was just so much bigger then Randy. Lesner lasted 90 seconds with Mir. Yes 90 seconds. He'll last a little longer this time but Mir will beat him in first round again. Some fights are done before you get in the cage, and I think this is one of em. I assure you Mir is in Lesners head. Kind of like Penn was in Sherk's head when they fought. Lesner knows he is in deep shit against Mir. He knows it, when you hear Lesner speak you know he's bullshitting himself. Lesner will take Mir down, Mir will grab a leg or arm and rip it off. And don't fool yourself with Brock's power. I think the octagon girl Edith has more power then Brock does:142smilie

Frank Mir at +235.......hello

I wish I were your bookie....

You don't think fights through technically and with styles/matchups....

Kind of like the last PPV...

 

[kickserv]

Rowdy, look back at how many times I take underdogs, my record is way below 500, way below.


MMA Record (since UFC 58)
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Prop Bet 24-20
Fighter vs. Fighter 130-198
Parlays 65-81

+45.77 Joe Rogans


And as stated Mir has been great to me. Everyone and their dog was on Nog and look what Mir did for kickserv. Mir did the same for kickserv against Brock the first time. Mir makes kickserv cash, kickserv likes Mir.


You have to be nuts to take Lesner at -285:scared

As for you being my bookie, I think that's illegal, and you'd owe me quite a bit of Rogans.:142smilie

 

[RowdyRider]

I wasn't on Mir or Nog...I actually didn't care to much about that fight.

I would go with Lesnar @ -285

I LOL @ talking about not taking Lesnar @ -285 but you want to put almost the same similar odds on GSP against a more dangerous matchup...

Makes sense :rollseyes:

 

[layinwood]

He's in Lesnar's head? Nothing points to that, and I'm not sure how you draw that silly conclusion anyways...

That odds is just BEGGING for Mir $$$$ because of fight #1. You're doing exactly what Vegas wants.

I honestly thin Lesnar is a big mismatch for Mir, especially with much more training and a few fights under his belt. The only reason he beat Lesnar the first time was inexperience...Any fighter with even the slightest amount of training wouldn't tap from that leg lock. Lesnar would just get out of it, this time around.

Any fighter with the slightest amount of training wouldn't get caught? Tell me you're just being sarcastic because of Kick. All of these fighters have been training for a while, except for Lesnar, and I've seen tons of taps from leg locks.

And your telling Kick he doesn't think things through technically with styles and matchups......
The whole reason you take Mir here is because of the styles, there is no way Lesnar has had enough training against BJJ. I'm not saying Mir will win but I am saying that someone with good BJJ has the best chance against Lesnar right now and because of that taking Mir at such a big dog is more than likely a good bet.

 

[RowdyRider]

Any fighter with the slightest amount of training wouldn't get caught? Tell me you're just being sarcastic because of Kick. All of these fighters have been training for a while, except for Lesnar, and I've seen tons of taps from leg locks.

And your telling Kick he doesn't think things through technically with styles and matchups......
The whole reason you take Mir here is because of the styles, there is no way Lesnar has had enough training against BJJ. I'm not saying Mir will win but I am saying that someone with good BJJ has the best chance against Lesnar right now and because of that taking Mir at such a big dog is more than likely a good bet.

Everyone and any pro has been on record of saying that if Lesnar had more training on the ground that he could've just pushed got out of that particular leg lock easily. I know Bas said so on inside MMA....

Also, you have to be kidding me about the styles. Mir has BJJ true, but I'll take a Wrestler/Striker against Mir and BJJ ALLLLLLLL day...especially considering who the two fighters we are talking about. You really think it's Mir's BJJ and not Lesnar's inexperience that lost him the fight? If you think so, then continue being clueless about the sport...

I will bet ANY of you guys on here that Mir doesn't win. I can't think of a fight in recent memory that I've ever been so sure about...

Mir is going to get hit, knocked down, and then the ref will step in and stop the fight, TKO....

 

[layinwood]

"You really think it's Mir's BJJ and not Lesnar's inexperience that lost him the fight. If you think so, then continue being clueless about the sport..."


Let me ask you, what was it? If you think it was one of the other then you're clueless. It was a combination of both. If someone doesn't have Mir's skill level in BJJ then it wouldn't matter what Lesnar's inexerience is, they wouldn't submit him. Did you see Randy or Herring subbing him, NOPE. So his inexperience didn't matter but because of Mir's high level it did matter.

 

[gardenweasel]

i honestly think that frankie edgar has a real chance to upset the sherk applecart....

i had sherk vs griffin and was actually surprised when he got the decision.....

both guys are wrestlers,but,i think,even though sherk`s stand-up has improved,edgar`s is better...he`s quicker and more well rounded...

and i believe that sherk will have trouble taking edgar down,...

the gray maynard loss?.....maybe maynard is just that good...we know how good a wrestler maynard is...how strong...but he manhandled an excellent jim miller on his feet....

sherk will be 36 in august...changing of the guard...