NASCAR Coca-Cola 600 Early Leans/Thoughts

[kegray1]

This is what I got so far:
TO WIN:
Kahne(30-1) for 30 -Good track history.
Martin(14-1) for 30 -Really, have you seen his car of late.
Kenseth(14-1) for 30 -Good odds probably because past history says so.Best finish 5th in '06 in last 8 runs here.

Mark Martin now fastest in first practice and Kahne is 6th.:00hour
Of course this is just there qualifying setup package and race package will be different but don't tell the oddsmakers that as odds will change in a hurry.
Odds on those two are gonna crash like Jeff Gordon at Charlotte.:mj07:

When are oddsmakers gonna give Martin some respect this season???

 

[Griffin8s]

End of first prac. #'s

End of first prac. #'s

<TABLE class=cnnDataTable id=cnnDataTable cellSpacing=0 border=0><TBODY id=cnnDataBody><TR><TH>Pos</TH><TH>Car</TH><TH>Driver</TH><TH>Laps</TH><TH>Best Speed</TH><TH>Last Speed</TH><TH>Avg. Speed</TH><TH>Best Time</TH><TH>Last Time</TH><TH class=cnnLast>Avg. Time</TH></TR></TBODY><TBODY id=cnnTableBody><TR><TD class=cnnDefault>1</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>

</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>Mark Martin</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>9</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>185.217</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>183.686</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>183.737</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.16</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.40</TD><TD class="cnnDefault cnnLast">29.39</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnCup>2</TD><TD class=cnnCup>

</TD><TD class=cnnCup>Jimmie Johnson</TD><TD class=cnnCup>7</TD><TD class=cnnCup>185.128</TD><TD class=cnnCup>183.461</TD><TD class=cnnCup>183.105</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.17</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.43</TD><TD class="cnnCup cnnLast">29.49</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnDefault>3</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>

</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>Denny Hamlin</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>3</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>184.533</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>184.294</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>184.414</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.26</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.30</TD><TD class="cnnDefault cnnLast">29.28</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnCup>4</TD><TD class=cnnCup>

</TD><TD class=cnnCup>Juan Pablo Montoya</TD><TD class=cnnCup>16</TD><TD class=cnnCup>184.502</TD><TD class=cnnCup>184.502</TD><TD class=cnnCup>179.618</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.27</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.27</TD><TD class="cnnCup cnnLast">30.06</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnDefault>5</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>

</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>Brian Vickers</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>11</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>184.401</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>184.401</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>182.607</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.28</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.28</TD><TD class="cnnDefault cnnLast">29.57</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnCup>6</TD><TD class=cnnCup>

</TD><TD class=cnnCup>Dale Earnhardt Jr.</TD><TD class=cnnCup>11</TD><TD class=cnnCup>183.855</TD><TD class=cnnCup>180.905</TD><TD class=cnnCup>181.598</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.37</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.85</TD><TD class="cnnCup cnnLast">29.74</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnDefault>7</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>

</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>Joey Logano</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>11</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>183.799</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>183.799</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>182.049</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.38</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.38</TD><TD class="cnnDefault cnnLast">29.66</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnCup>8</TD><TD class=cnnCup>

</TD><TD class=cnnCup>Kasey Kahne</TD><TD class=cnnCup>11</TD><TD class=cnnCup>183.667</TD><TD class=cnnCup>183.082</TD><TD class=cnnCup>182.425</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.40</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.50</TD><TD class="cnnCup cnnLast">29.60</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnDefault>9</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>

</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>Ryan Newman</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>20</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>183.499</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>183.499</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>179.243</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.43</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.43</TD><TD class="cnnDefault cnnLast">30.13</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnCup>10</TD><TD class=cnnCup>

</TD><TD class=cnnCup>Kyle Busch</TD><TD class=cnnCup>8</TD><TD class=cnnCup>183.474</TD><TD class=cnnCup>180.995</TD><TD class=cnnCup>182.547</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.43</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.84</TD><TD class="cnnCup cnnLast">29.58</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnDefault>11</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>

</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>Jeff Gordon</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>7</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>183.399</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>183.399</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>181.795</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.44</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.44</TD><TD class="cnnDefault cnnLast">29.70</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnCup>12</TD><TD class=cnnCup>

</TD><TD class=cnnCup>David Reutimann</TD><TD class=cnnCup>16</TD><TD class=cnnCup>183.256</TD><TD class=cnnCup>183.256</TD><TD class=cnnCup>179.836</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.47</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.47</TD><TD class="cnnCup cnnLast">30.03</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnDefault>13</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>

</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>Tony Stewart</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>13</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>183.132</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>183.132</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>179.020</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.49</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.49</TD><TD class="cnnDefault cnnLast">30.16</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnCup>14</TD><TD class=cnnCup>

</TD><TD class=cnnCup>Matt Kenseth</TD><TD class=cnnCup>27</TD><TD class=cnnCup>183.076</TD><TD class=cnnCup>181.665</TD><TD class=cnnCup>177.673</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.50</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.72</TD><TD class="cnnCup cnnLast">30.39</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnDefault>15</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>

</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>Bobby Labonte</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>18</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>183.007</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>181.977</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>178.878</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.51</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.67</TD><TD class="cnnDefault cnnLast">30.19</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnCup>16</TD><TD class=cnnCup>

</TD><TD class=cnnCup>Paul Menard</TD><TD class=cnnCup>16</TD><TD class=cnnCup>182.921</TD><TD class=cnnCup>181.500</TD><TD class=cnnCup>181.111</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.52</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.75</TD><TD class="cnnCup cnnLast">29.82</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnDefault>17</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>

</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>Joe Nemechek</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>9</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>182.840</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>182.469</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>181.327</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.53</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.59</TD><TD class="cnnDefault cnnLast">29.78</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnCup>18</TD><TD class=cnnCup>

</TD><TD class=cnnCup>David Ragan</TD><TD class=cnnCup>15</TD><TD class=cnnCup>182.723</TD><TD class=cnnCup>181.568</TD><TD class=cnnCup>178.220</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.55</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.74</TD><TD class="cnnCup cnnLast">30.30</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnDefault>19</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>

</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>Jamie McMurray</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>21</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>182.723</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>180.403</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>178.457</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.55</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.93</TD><TD class="cnnDefault cnnLast">30.26</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnCup>20</TD><TD class=cnnCup>

</TD><TD class=cnnCup>Carl Edwards</TD><TD class=cnnCup>15</TD><TD class=cnnCup>182.716</TD><TD class=cnnCup>180.457</TD><TD class=cnnCup>180.330</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.55</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.92</TD><TD class="cnnCup cnnLast">29.94</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

 

[Griffin8s]

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<TABLE class=cnnDataTable id=cnnDataTable cellSpacing=0 border=0><TBODY id=cnnTableBody><TR><TD class=cnnDefault>21</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>

</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>David Stremme</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>18</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>182.618</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>181.238</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>180.787</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.57</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.80</TD><TD class="cnnDefault cnnLast">29.87</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnCup>22</TD><TD class=cnnCup>

</TD><TD class=cnnCup>Marcos Ambrose</TD><TD class=cnnCup>10</TD><TD class=cnnCup>182.568</TD><TD class=cnnCup>181.330</TD><TD class=cnnCup>181.614</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.58</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.78</TD><TD class="cnnCup cnnLast">29.73</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnDefault>23</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>

</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>Sam Hornish Jr.</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>26</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>182.488</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>182.488</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>178.881</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.59</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.59</TD><TD class="cnnDefault cnnLast">30.19</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnCup>24</TD><TD class=cnnCup>

</TD><TD class=cnnCup>Max Papis</TD><TD class=cnnCup>10</TD><TD class=cnnCup>182.352</TD><TD class=cnnCup>181.026</TD><TD class=cnnCup>180.877</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.61</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.83</TD><TD class="cnnCup cnnLast">29.85</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnDefault>25</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>

</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>Scott Speed</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>16</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>182.309</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>180.554</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>179.127</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.62</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.91</TD><TD class="cnnDefault cnnLast">30.15</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnCup>26</TD><TD class=cnnCup>

</TD><TD class=cnnCup>Greg Biffle</TD><TD class=cnnCup>23</TD><TD class=cnnCup>182.309</TD><TD class=cnnCup>180.729</TD><TD class=cnnCup>176.489</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.62</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.88</TD><TD class="cnnCup cnnLast">30.60</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnDefault>27</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>

</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>Jeff Burton</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>20</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>182.285</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>180.343</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>176.807</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.62</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.94</TD><TD class="cnnDefault cnnLast">30.54</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnCup>28</TD><TD class=cnnCup>

</TD><TD class=cnnCup>Casey Mears</TD><TD class=cnnCup>22</TD><TD class=cnnCup>182.278</TD><TD class=cnnCup>182.278</TD><TD class=cnnCup>177.832</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.62</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.62</TD><TD class="cnnCup cnnLast">30.37</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnDefault>29</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>

</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>Elliott Sadler</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>11</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>182.113</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>182.113</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>181.040</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.65</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.65</TD><TD class="cnnDefault cnnLast">29.83</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnCup>30</TD><TD class=cnnCup>

</TD><TD class=cnnCup>Robby Gordon</TD><TD class=cnnCup>13</TD><TD class=cnnCup>182.002</TD><TD class=cnnCup>182.002</TD><TD class=cnnCup>180.378</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.67</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.67</TD><TD class="cnnCup cnnLast">29.94</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnDefault>31</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>

</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>Dave Blaney</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>12</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>181.984</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>181.984</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>180.727</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.67</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.67</TD><TD class="cnnDefault cnnLast">29.88</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnCup>32</TD><TD class=cnnCup>

</TD><TD class=cnnCup>Michael Waltrip</TD><TD class=cnnCup>11</TD><TD class=cnnCup>181.959</TD><TD class=cnnCup>181.959</TD><TD class=cnnCup>180.504</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.68</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.68</TD><TD class="cnnCup cnnLast">29.92</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnDefault>33</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>

</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>Bill Elliott</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>11</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>181.886</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>180.989</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>180.341</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.69</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.84</TD><TD class="cnnDefault cnnLast">29.94</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnCup>34</TD><TD class=cnnCup>

</TD><TD class=cnnCup>Martin Truex Jr.</TD><TD class=cnnCup>20</TD><TD class=cnnCup>181.568</TD><TD class=cnnCup>178.506</TD><TD class=cnnCup>177.767</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.74</TD><TD class=cnnCup>30.25</TD><TD class="cnnCup cnnLast">30.38</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnDefault>35</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>

</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>Mike Bliss</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>10</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>181.531</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>179.384</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>180.188</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.75</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>30.10</TD><TD class="cnnDefault cnnLast">29.97</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnCup>36</TD><TD class=cnnCup>

</TD><TD class=cnnCup>Kurt Busch</TD><TD class=cnnCup>16</TD><TD class=cnnCup>181.513</TD><TD class=cnnCup>181.513</TD><TD class=cnnCup>178.703</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.75</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.75</TD><TD class="cnnCup cnnLast">30.22</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnDefault>37</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>

</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>Reed Sorenson</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>19</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>181.324</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>181.324</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>176.561</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.78</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.78</TD><TD class="cnnDefault cnnLast">30.58</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnCup>38</TD><TD class=cnnCup>

</TD><TD class=cnnCup>Todd Bodine</TD><TD class=cnnCup>16</TD><TD class=cnnCup>181.147</TD><TD class=cnnCup>181.147</TD><TD class=cnnCup>178.932</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.81</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.81</TD><TD class="cnnCup cnnLast">30.18</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnDefault>39</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>

</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>David Gilliland</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>10</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>181.123</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>180.096</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>179.785</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.81</TD><TD class=cnnDefault>29.98</TD><TD class="cnnDefault cnnLast">30.04</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnCup>40</TD><TD class=cnnCup>

</TD><TD class=cnnCup>A.J. Allmendinger</TD><TD class=cnnCup>11</TD><TD class=cnnCup>180.983</TD><TD class=cnnCup>180.983</TD><TD class=cnnCup>179.188</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.84</TD><TD class=cnnCup>29.84</TD><TD class="cnnCup cnnLast">30.14</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

 

[Griffin8s]

Now in the last 2 posts I like to look at the last columb which is avg lap time over the whole practice. Of course also lap run in prac. If you run one fast lap it doesn't mean shit but if you can run many fast laps your better for the race. Keep in mind most don't run and qual. laps till the very end of prac. maybe last lap or 2.

 

[kegray1]

I think this race is a little different as they still have two more practices after they qualify which is very rare.
I think most of the practice runs today were to get best qualify for most.
So I wouldn't put much into today's practice.

 

[kegray1]

Johnson(-120) over Biffle for 120 win 100. --

Kahne(-110) over Vickers for 110 wins 100 --

2-0 as Kahne beats Vickers by .015 seconds.:00hour

WOW

+200 to start the race week.

 

[kegray1]

And the Rousch cars got some serious work to do before the race.
Hendrick looks dominate.

 

[Griffin8s]

Great job man. Now I know who to watch for quals Kegray.:mj07: I liked them both but didn't want to jinx you. That Kahane was a nail biter though!!! GJ!! Hope you roll thru the weekend!!

Yes Newman has had alot of poles but they never seem to turn into anything for him. Hope it's diff. this weekend. Got him in my fantasy lineup.

 

[kegray1]

I usually stink at qualify,but just went with the percentages on this one.

 

[Griffin8s]

I think this race is a little different as they still have two more practices after they qualify which is very rare.
I think most of the practice runs today were to get best qualify for most.
So I wouldn't put much into today's practice.

I know I posted them earlier but did not read into them much till now. Your right kegray, very low number of laps run by the big teams which is a signal of just qual runs. Look for the numbers in Sat. prac. to give a better read on this race. Like the afternoon prac. better, closer to start time of the race.
Note: don't know yet if driving home Sat. or Sun., if Sunday I will have to do all my work Sat. night.

 

[kegray1]

Actually the 2nd practice late on Saturday is closer to race time.
6:00 eastern practice and race starts at 5:45 on Sunday.

Afternoon Sat practice is at 2:30 eastern and track will never be that hot during race.

 

[Griffin8s]

kegray do you have a yahoo fantasy team or know how it works w/ the A group and B group...??

 

[Griffin8s]

Actually the 2nd practice late on Saturday is closer to race time.
6:00 eastern practice and race starts at 5:45 on Sunday.

Afternoon Sat practice is at 2:30 eastern and track will never be that hot during race.

:mj07: sorry I meant late afternoon.

 

[kegray1]

kegray do you have a yahoo fantasy team or know how it works w/ the A group and B group...??

We have a madjacks league.
Most of the regular posters are in it(Deadprez,loose lugs,another steve and others are in it).

I am in the nascar.com league as well.
Just lost the $75 league prize for first segment on the southern 500 race, Had it won going into that race and some bad luck cost me.

New segment starts this weekend.

 

[kegray1]

Well Mark Martin odds didn't really fall much 10-1 now.
Kahne dropped to 15-1 which is still a good price on him. I thought Kahne would be around 10-1.
The way Kenseth practiced and qualified he should be a million to 1 right now.
Adding two more plays before practices:
Hamlin 18-1 for 20
Jr 35-1 for 10
Burton 40-1 for 10
Along with :
Kahne/Martin/Kenseth plays

 

[Griffin8s]

Think right now I in a holding pattern till tomorrows practices I know not the best idea but have trouble getting a read on this race. kegray I think you got the winner in there just not sure which one it is.:mj07:

 

[Griffin8s]

Picks so far

Picks so far

Martin +1100
Kurt B +1400
Stewart +1000

Dark Horse
Newman +1200 (should have locked it in before qual.)

 

[axp59]

kegray1, is that yahoo league private? I would like to join the group and maybe learn a thing or two.

thanks.

 

[kegray1]

kegray1, is that yahoo league private? I would like to join the group and maybe learn a thing or two.

thanks.

It is free and I think you can join at any time.
Actually the Spring season just ended and the Summer race starts this weekend so the points are reset I think.
Here is our info:
Group ID# 21573
Group Name MADJACKERS
Group Password madjackers

http://racing.fantasysports.yahoo.com/auto/

You have to change your lineup before qualifying or you have to use the guys you already have,but you also have subs to use.

 

[Griffin8s]

Mind if I join it I got room for one more spot to go too.:shrug: