NBA WED 032509 early thoughts - value hunting (NO PICKS INSIDE)

chasing2day

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ax, what are your thoughts on new jersey +12 vs cleveland? cleveland has not won a game by over 10 points for a while now, and also have not been able to cover at home. what are your thoughts on this game?

ax, what worries me about the n.j play is there trend as double digit dogs. they get killed as double digit dogs. i think they're 1-8 ats there last 9 games as double digit dogs
 

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ax, what are your thoughts on new jersey +12 vs cleveland? cleveland has not won a game by over 10 points for a while now, and also have not been able to cover at home. what are your thoughts on this game?

Chase, tough call since both games this year has been in NJ between these two.
As DD favs at home this season, CLE is 17-0 SU and wins those games by an avg of 17. They are 13-5-1 ATS with an avg line of -12.5 and covers by 4.5. Before an ATS loss as a DD fav at home to NY in 3/15...they didn't have an ATS loss since 1/27 against SAC. IMHO, I may not play CLE but I'm certainly not going to play against them in this spot.

GL pal
 

omega

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thx ax
always appreciate u taking time answering our
questions.
understand how u feel about ur dogs.I have 3 myself(boston terrier)
guess what all names after celtics great:eek:


AS ALWAYS GOOD LUCK TONITE
 

joe_shmoe

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Ax,

I know my Davidson/StM under flamed out but take a look at the UK/ND line.

Everything I'm seeing suggests that this game goes under.

When total is line the the 140's:
KENTY 5-8
NOTRE 6-11

UK 6-9 o/u away
ND 2-9 o/u at home

Also, check out what each team has done in their last 5 games compared to the rest of the season. Scoring for and against is down for both teams as are FGs made and attempted by each team.
 

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Seems there would be a conflict of interest there.

I am also suspicious of some numbers that are spoon fed to us. The number that matters most is the actual line. If I see value with a certain number, I don't care if public money is on it or sharp money is on it. I establish my buy-in number and shop for the best bargain I can get. If the number goes up and I'm on the under...good for me. Now I got 5 dimes worth of value for just being patient.

Perfect example last night...No names and no disrespect intended. A capper here bought down the DET total from 191 to 189, I believe, to play the over. That's a lot of juice. The line moved down to about the same because of some injury reports. I saw a bunch of cappers come in and ask me what I thought of the 2 point drop. This must mean to play the under if the line drops 2 whole points, right? I told them to stay on the over. Hell they just gave you guys something the previous capper paid -150 for. The over hit both for the -150 capper and for the late takers. What were my exact words when the line dropped yesterday? yeah...look it up..I think I said this was a "scam". Over hit. I missed the boat since it was only an axtion play for me anyway and didn't want to rebuy at a lower number...
 

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Got the Detroit game O at half as well as the ATL/Minn U, both winners. Goes to show that good info helps even when it doesn't hit. Thanks!
 

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I am also suspicious of some numbers that are spoon fed to us. The number that matters most is the actual line. If I see value with a certain number, I don't care if public money is on it or sharp money is on it. I establish my buy-in number and shop for the best bargain I can get. If the number goes up and I'm on the under...good for me. Now I got 5 dimes worth of value for just being patient.

Perfect example last night...No names and no disrespect intended. A capper here bought down the DET total from 191 to 189, I believe, to play the over. That's a lot of juice. The line moved down to about the same because of some injury reports. I saw a bunch of cappers come in and ask me what I thought of the 2 point drop. This must mean to play the under if the line drops 2 whole points, right? I told them to stay on the over. Hell they just gave you guys something the previous capper paid -150 for. The over hit both for the -150 capper and for the late takers. What were my exact words when the line dropped yesterday? yeah...look it up..I think I said this was a "scam". Over hit. I missed the boat since it was only an axtion play for me anyway and didn't want to rebuy at a lower number...

WORD TO YOUR MOTHER!

I was one of those guys that came in and asked. When you said stay on it, that's when I bought in. Thanks as usual AX. I'm sorry that you didn't get your number. I feel guilty for hitting when you didn't.
 

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Ax,


Everything I'm seeing suggests that this game goes under.

When total is line the the 140's:
KENTY 5-8
NOTRE 6-11

UK 6-9 o/u away
ND 2-9 o/u at home

Also, check out what each team has done in their last 5 games compared to the rest of the season. Scoring for and against is down for both teams as are FGs made and attempted by each team.

Joe, thanks for this. Have you peeked at Chump's CBB tonight. guy is on a roll 18-3-1 I believe...
 

joe_shmoe

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Joe, thanks for this. Have you peeked at Chump's CBB tonight. guy is on a roll 18-3-1 I believe...

I looked for his CBB plays. I couldn't find it. Does he post in the ncaab forums or in the nba thread?
 

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Now you know what I go through...all 5 are feed home cooked dog food. With top grade meat. Spoiled!!!
What's her name?
I understand. Ours love table food. Her name is Sophie. God, I can't imagine having 5 of them ruling the house!! We had 4 for a short time when ours had pups and that was enough for me, although my wife would have 30 if she were able.
 

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WORD TO YOUR MOTHER!

I was one of those guys that came in and asked. When you said stay on it, that's when I bought in. Thanks as usual AX. I'm sorry that you didn't get your number. I feel guilty for hitting when you didn't.

No sweat pal...the book's didn't get my money...you did. LOL :00hour they got ..let's just say...a handling fee
 
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