Now if Senate and President would do there part we could keep going. Dam these folks are moving fast in congress. Soon when they get to some of the ideas that Reb's don't like. It will slow way down.
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I sure haven't time to type all that jabber. In short minimum wage stalled where Senate. Prez said he's got veto pen ready.Made it Easier to get pell grants for kids to go to college. Stalled Senate. Prez said not sure. Lone rates and pay back time for students relaxed. What Prez said he was going to do and never did. Stalled in Senate. Credit card rules to be adjusted for all Americans. This one I don't understand myself. I know it came up with process for students based on help needs. When it came to light the high amount of folks that went broke last few years. Last year a record number folks went bank rupt. More then people who graduated from our universities. Man were doing something wrong when that happens. They also passed something about taking back control of the budget. To much money going places that no one can find. Most do to with Iraq. Why last couple congresses looked other way who knows.
Heard Nancy's name in the news a bit more of late. Gots to get that camera time in! Outside of that, NADA. But I'm sure I've missed all those press conferences about all the great bills she's tried to get into law that have been blocked.
Methinks Nancy has turned out to be a paper tiger.:0corn
Methinks Nancy has turned out to be a paper tiger.:0corn
Just paper.......absolutely got her skinny azz kicked in 2007............let 'em run right, let 'em run up the middle......all damn day. Thanks for diggin' this thread up..........I'm pissed off again
from earlier in the thread......
Guess those evil Republicans got the majority blocked at every step! Wonder how much of this has been accomplished? And what has been done since the 1st Hundo? I know. All blocked. All blocked. Foiled again Batman. As little as I follow, I've never heard anything about massive and constant blocking of EVERY one of Nancy's initiatives, whatever they have been.
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http://www.chronwatch.com/content/co...966&catcode=13
America?s New Liberal Direction: The First 100 Legislative Hours
Written by J. B. Williams
Saturday, January 06, 2007
As Washington Republicans line up to sing a politically tuned rendition of Rodney King?s classic hit, ?Can?t we all just get along,? soon-to-be House Speaker Pelosi angles to bury the bi-partisan hatchet right in Bush?s back.
Convinced that the American people completely rejected the Bush doctrine and embraced liberal socialism in the 2006 mid-terms, Democrats poised to take full control of Congress on Thursday are prepared to take no prisoners as they ram their agenda through the legislature, challenging Bush?s weakened veto alternative.
In other words, they are preparing to do just as Republicans should have done but failed to do while they controlled Congress. Had Republicans taken the same no prisoners approach to leadership, they?d still be in control of Congress. It was their spineless efforts to compromise with their friends on the left that caused conservatives and independents to defect in the last election. Still, they think they can get along with their political foes.
Democrats are about to teach Republicans what real partisan smash-mouth leadership is all about. They have set their first 100-hour legislative agenda and Republicans are already crying foul as Democrats set a minefield of road-blocks to keep Republicans from having any say at all in the process. As the home town San Francisco Chronicle points out: ?Democrats say they will bypass House committees, move legislation directly to the floor, and strictly limit the GOP's ability to make changes.? Now that?s bi-partisanship at its best! Pelosi style! Remember all the GOP initiatives allowed to be held up in committee, never allowed a floor vote where they would have easily passed a partisan roll call? No need for committee review now!
Their 100-hour agenda sounds good to average Americans limited only to lamestream headlines for their daily dose of reality.
? Raise the federal minimum wage from $5.15 to $7.25 an hour.
Though few Americans hold minimum wage jobs, increasing a national minimum wage has historically resulted in increased unemployment of the very people liberals claim to represent. Further, as economic conditions vary in different parts of the country, a high national minimum wage negatively impacts the poorest regions most. Many states already have a minimum wage above the national number. Those that don?t, have special economic challenges. A 41% increase at the national level should deliver the kind of unemployment numbers Democrats seek as a campaign tool for the 2008 presidential election.
? Curb lobbyists' influence by banning meals and gifts to lawmakers and requiring more disclosure and oversight.
This is what McCain-Feingold was supposed to accomplish. However, Democrats quickly circumvented true bi-partisan campaign-finance-reform efforts with the invention of 527 organizations like MoveOn.org, which led to the biggest illegal/unethical campaign sludge-fund bonanza in world history. Look closely at the details of what Democrats propose now. It has little to do with any honest lobbyist curbs.
? Repeal subsidies for the oil industry.
We have an energy crisis in this country. We are far too dependent upon foreign resources and Democrats? answer is to attack American energy producers while restricting domestic exploration and refining? The energy agenda in a nut-shell--bankrupt private energy industry and send the fed in to save the day.
? Cut college-loan interest rates in half.
College loan rates are the lowest in the world. We already don?t require repayment of college loans. What difference does the interest rate on uncollectible loans make? Another feel-good measure that means nothing to students, but much to tax-payers who are making those loans!
? Reduce prescription-drug prices for seniors by requiring Medicare to negotiate rates with pharmaceutical companies.
Reduce government intervention in drug manufacturing and curb frivolous law suits and everyone can better afford medical treatment including drugs. Study why American medical expenses are high to begin with, as compared to say Canada, where there are no frivolous law suits against manufacturers and no government gouging (taxation) of products on the way to market. Like our friends to the north, liberals will be happy to curb frivolous law suits once the government controls the medical industry and is the subject of such suits.
? Pass another bill that allows expanded federal funding for embryonic stem-cell research, betting on better prospects for an override if the president vetoes it again.
What they mean is, allow federal funding of embryo farming for stem-cell research. We already fund stem-cell research. We just don?t fund embryo farming for research purposes. That?s about to change.
? Implement unfulfilled recommendations of the Sept. 11 commission and beef up port security.
As most folks know, almost all of these recommendations are already in practice. The few that are not, have downside consequences that security experts (not partisan political hacks) prefer to leave un-implemented. If you want to do the number one thing to better secure this nation, start by securing our borders and prosecuting illegal aliens. Watch how Pelosi?s Democrats manage the number one threat to American security? ?What illegal aliens? They are undocumented American citizens, specifically, future federal dependents and Democrat voters! Come one--come all!?
Here?s what they haven?t put on their public agenda talking points list?
As military and national security experts prepare to increase troop strength in Iraq to put down the rising tide of terror attacks on innocent Iraqi citizens struggling to move their nation towards peaceful co-existence with the world, Democrats strategize how to cut or block funding for all current and future Iraq operations, publicly voicing support for victory in Iraq while working to legislatively guaranteeing failure via unfunded operations. The goal is to appear pro-troop while acting anti-Iraq mission. This nuanced lie won the election. So it will stand?
There it is in all its glory--America?s New Liberal Direction, a glance at the first 100 legislative hours under Democrat control.
And you thought you were forcing the two parties to cooperate with each other for a better America. You thought you were voting for secure borders and a brighter American future.
Foolish is as foolish does! Now we will reap what we have sown: pure foolishness!
Guess those evil Republicans got the majority blocked at every step! Wonder how much of this has been accomplished? And what has been done since the 1st Hundo? I know. All blocked. All blocked. Foiled again Batman. As little as I follow, I've never heard anything about massive and constant blocking of EVERY one of Nancy's initiatives, whatever they have been.
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http://www.chronwatch.com/content/co...966&catcode=13
America?s New Liberal Direction: The First 100 Legislative Hours
Written by J. B. Williams
Saturday, January 06, 2007
As Washington Republicans line up to sing a politically tuned rendition of Rodney King?s classic hit, ?Can?t we all just get along,? soon-to-be House Speaker Pelosi angles to bury the bi-partisan hatchet right in Bush?s back.
Convinced that the American people completely rejected the Bush doctrine and embraced liberal socialism in the 2006 mid-terms, Democrats poised to take full control of Congress on Thursday are prepared to take no prisoners as they ram their agenda through the legislature, challenging Bush?s weakened veto alternative.
In other words, they are preparing to do just as Republicans should have done but failed to do while they controlled Congress. Had Republicans taken the same no prisoners approach to leadership, they?d still be in control of Congress. It was their spineless efforts to compromise with their friends on the left that caused conservatives and independents to defect in the last election. Still, they think they can get along with their political foes.
Democrats are about to teach Republicans what real partisan smash-mouth leadership is all about. They have set their first 100-hour legislative agenda and Republicans are already crying foul as Democrats set a minefield of road-blocks to keep Republicans from having any say at all in the process. As the home town San Francisco Chronicle points out: ?Democrats say they will bypass House committees, move legislation directly to the floor, and strictly limit the GOP's ability to make changes.? Now that?s bi-partisanship at its best! Pelosi style! Remember all the GOP initiatives allowed to be held up in committee, never allowed a floor vote where they would have easily passed a partisan roll call? No need for committee review now!
Their 100-hour agenda sounds good to average Americans limited only to lamestream headlines for their daily dose of reality.
? Raise the federal minimum wage from $5.15 to $7.25 an hour.
Though few Americans hold minimum wage jobs, increasing a national minimum wage has historically resulted in increased unemployment of the very people liberals claim to represent. Further, as economic conditions vary in different parts of the country, a high national minimum wage negatively impacts the poorest regions most. Many states already have a minimum wage above the national number. Those that don?t, have special economic challenges. A 41% increase at the national level should deliver the kind of unemployment numbers Democrats seek as a campaign tool for the 2008 presidential election.
? Curb lobbyists' influence by banning meals and gifts to lawmakers and requiring more disclosure and oversight.
This is what McCain-Feingold was supposed to accomplish. However, Democrats quickly circumvented true bi-partisan campaign-finance-reform efforts with the invention of 527 organizations like MoveOn.org, which led to the biggest illegal/unethical campaign sludge-fund bonanza in world history. Look closely at the details of what Democrats propose now. It has little to do with any honest lobbyist curbs.
? Repeal subsidies for the oil industry.
We have an energy crisis in this country. We are far too dependent upon foreign resources and Democrats? answer is to attack American energy producers while restricting domestic exploration and refining? The energy agenda in a nut-shell--bankrupt private energy industry and send the fed in to save the day.
? Cut college-loan interest rates in half.
College loan rates are the lowest in the world. We already don?t require repayment of college loans. What difference does the interest rate on uncollectible loans make? Another feel-good measure that means nothing to students, but much to tax-payers who are making those loans!
? Reduce prescription-drug prices for seniors by requiring Medicare to negotiate rates with pharmaceutical companies.
Reduce government intervention in drug manufacturing and curb frivolous law suits and everyone can better afford medical treatment including drugs. Study why American medical expenses are high to begin with, as compared to say Canada, where there are no frivolous law suits against manufacturers and no government gouging (taxation) of products on the way to market. Like our friends to the north, liberals will be happy to curb frivolous law suits once the government controls the medical industry and is the subject of such suits.
? Pass another bill that allows expanded federal funding for embryonic stem-cell research, betting on better prospects for an override if the president vetoes it again.
What they mean is, allow federal funding of embryo farming for stem-cell research. We already fund stem-cell research. We just don?t fund embryo farming for research purposes. That?s about to change.
? Implement unfulfilled recommendations of the Sept. 11 commission and beef up port security.
As most folks know, almost all of these recommendations are already in practice. The few that are not, have downside consequences that security experts (not partisan political hacks) prefer to leave un-implemented. If you want to do the number one thing to better secure this nation, start by securing our borders and prosecuting illegal aliens. Watch how Pelosi?s Democrats manage the number one threat to American security? ?What illegal aliens? They are undocumented American citizens, specifically, future federal dependents and Democrat voters! Come one--come all!?
Here?s what they haven?t put on their public agenda talking points list?
As military and national security experts prepare to increase troop strength in Iraq to put down the rising tide of terror attacks on innocent Iraqi citizens struggling to move their nation towards peaceful co-existence with the world, Democrats strategize how to cut or block funding for all current and future Iraq operations, publicly voicing support for victory in Iraq while working to legislatively guaranteeing failure via unfunded operations. The goal is to appear pro-troop while acting anti-Iraq mission. This nuanced lie won the election. So it will stand?
There it is in all its glory--America?s New Liberal Direction, a glance at the first 100 legislative hours under Democrat control.
And you thought you were forcing the two parties to cooperate with each other for a better America. You thought you were voting for secure borders and a brighter American future.
Foolish is as foolish does! Now we will reap what we have sown: pure foolishness!
Why you still stuck on the first 100 hours? Several thousand have gone by since then. A lot has been done or at least attempted in that time.
...And please keep in mind, there is nothing this congress could do that would as directly negatively affect the online wagering community as the previous one. I'm amazed that anyone here would even remotely defend the GOP. They punched us all in the face and got away with it. It's wierd - IO I don't recall you having any sort of critical eye on that congress - not even remotely as much as you bash this one that has only had 1 year in office.
...And please keep in mind, there is nothing this congress could do that would as directly negatively affect the online wagering community as the previous one. I'm amazed that anyone here would even remotely defend the GOP. They punched us all in the face and got away with it. It's wierd - IO I don't recall you having any sort of critical eye on that congress - not even remotely as much as you bash this one that has only had 1 year in office.
I hear ya
I'm really not focusing on the congress as much as this idiot that was gonna show everyone her ability. How things were gonna be different. How capable she is. How she is all ready to mix it up and get down and dirty if need be. How she isn't intimidated by anyone or anything. How the "glass ceiling" was being smashed. How it was going to be a new era. Bush had no public numbers to support him and neither did the Republicans (nor have they for some time) and this worthless joke hasn't accomplished anything. She knew the program coming in and still didn't miss a camera to TOUT. Maybe if both sides of the house were all lefties this idiot could follow through on some of the bs that pours out of her mouth. Please drop the "all her stuff is being blocked". First off, I don't think it's happening. 2nd off, she had that all figured out in the beginning and has had no success working through it.
Non productive and worthless POS.
I don't think she got the support of her own party.
And she getting a FREE PASS in public just like here.
I'm really not focusing on the congress as much as this idiot that was gonna show everyone her ability. How things were gonna be different. How capable she is. How she is all ready to mix it up and get down and dirty if need be. How she isn't intimidated by anyone or anything. How the "glass ceiling" was being smashed. How it was going to be a new era. Bush had no public numbers to support him and neither did the Republicans (nor have they for some time) and this worthless joke hasn't accomplished anything. She knew the program coming in and still didn't miss a camera to TOUT. Maybe if both sides of the house were all lefties this idiot could follow through on some of the bs that pours out of her mouth. Please drop the "all her stuff is being blocked". First off, I don't think it's happening. 2nd off, she had that all figured out in the beginning and has had no success working through it.
Non productive and worthless POS.
I don't think she got the support of her own party.
And she getting a FREE PASS in public just like here.
Sorry for not attacking the Republican congress enough in years past. I guess if I did, the fact that Nancy sucks hind tit would be easier to accept.
Bottom Line. We can try to keep fixing problem that I believe goes back 20 years. We can do more this November.
And who wrights the rules they follow?
I believe they do.
But if who we send to Washington won't work together. We have to keep throwing them out of offce. We just don't need anymore over 12 year elected officials.
And who wrights the rules they follow?
I believe they do.
But if who we send to Washington won't work together. We have to keep throwing them out of offce. We just don't need anymore over 12 year elected officials.
I would vote for Paul befor Hillary. And maybe Obama before any of them. Mc Cain I once thought would be my vote. No More.
I/O, I need to understand exactly what you are bulldogging so repeatedly here. Are you wanting to know what the democrats have succeeded in doing since they've been in ONE PERSON "control" of the Senate? And/or are you wanting to know exactly what legislation Pelosi herself has brought forth to completion? Which is the important thing - you seem to be flying all over the place in you all things democratic negativity here.
Surely you understand that most - if not all - legislation to be passed has to be more than just a simple majority, right? So, some republicans have to join democrats to pass legislation that is brought forth. If not, that's the case. It's obviously not possible to pass legislation if republicans band together to not pass a bill, right? Then, take the record number of filibusters enacted by republicans to prevent legislation from even coming to a vote. This group of republicans have set a new standard for being the most obstructionist legislative group in history. Do you think that might have a hand in democrats not being able to pass legislation? Do I need to go on? Okay, I will. How about President Bush pulling out the veto pen again and again (when doing it only once or so during his first term with republican majority) on legislation that is actually passed?
If you'd like to continue down this embarrassing road of commentary (for you), that's fine. We can, but I think the above paragraph should take care of the baseless wandering posts you've made here so far. You're up. I think the democrats have done a pretty good job, all things considered. I have concerns about what they haven't tried to follow through with in some cases (the war, etc.), but they had an initial plan and worked hard to make it happen. The fact that they have ZERO help from opposition leadership and legislators doesn't mean they aren't accomplishing things because they aren't trying to. It means another party cares more about trying to make them look bad and prevent as much from happening as possible.
Surely you understand that most - if not all - legislation to be passed has to be more than just a simple majority, right? So, some republicans have to join democrats to pass legislation that is brought forth. If not, that's the case. It's obviously not possible to pass legislation if republicans band together to not pass a bill, right? Then, take the record number of filibusters enacted by republicans to prevent legislation from even coming to a vote. This group of republicans have set a new standard for being the most obstructionist legislative group in history. Do you think that might have a hand in democrats not being able to pass legislation? Do I need to go on? Okay, I will. How about President Bush pulling out the veto pen again and again (when doing it only once or so during his first term with republican majority) on legislation that is actually passed?
If you'd like to continue down this embarrassing road of commentary (for you), that's fine. We can, but I think the above paragraph should take care of the baseless wandering posts you've made here so far. You're up. I think the democrats have done a pretty good job, all things considered. I have concerns about what they haven't tried to follow through with in some cases (the war, etc.), but they had an initial plan and worked hard to make it happen. The fact that they have ZERO help from opposition leadership and legislators doesn't mean they aren't accomplishing things because they aren't trying to. It means another party cares more about trying to make them look bad and prevent as much from happening as possible.
One other thing...the holds put on legislation by single legislators also has prevented legislation from coming up for vote...usually put on by republicans, and a couple in particular. Nothing but obstructionism...and you blame the democrats? Get real, man.
You are right about the filibusters etc.
She was well aware that all this was going on for some time. Her early speaches are all about working with the President and the Republicans together blah blah blah while saying the American people are dead set against the war and how the Democrats are going to totally change the direction of the country's involvement in it. She and her crew from the start have put this up as they know what the American people want and will impose it on the head of the US and the other party. Don't think they have been much about working together on anything. I have nothing of her going public with whatever bills she felt the Republicans were holding back on. If anything, there has been a large number of divisions in the Republican Party and many keeping their distance from Bush and his desires. I really think she had more than enough opportunity to make some progress with all that devisiveness among the Republican ranks. She talked a big game from the start with her prime time interviews etc and it's on her to have done nothing to this point. If my memory serves me, other speakers have been far more of public figures on activities they are involved with than she has.
She was well aware that all this was going on for some time. Her early speaches are all about working with the President and the Republicans together blah blah blah while saying the American people are dead set against the war and how the Democrats are going to totally change the direction of the country's involvement in it. She and her crew from the start have put this up as they know what the American people want and will impose it on the head of the US and the other party. Don't think they have been much about working together on anything. I have nothing of her going public with whatever bills she felt the Republicans were holding back on. If anything, there has been a large number of divisions in the Republican Party and many keeping their distance from Bush and his desires. I really think she had more than enough opportunity to make some progress with all that devisiveness among the Republican ranks. She talked a big game from the start with her prime time interviews etc and it's on her to have done nothing to this point. If my memory serves me, other speakers have been far more of public figures on activities they are involved with than she has.
Had the Dems been able to seperate themselves from their minority radical liberal constituents they could have got things accomplished--as it they spent most time on retreat (vote continuously brought up how many times) investigations (how many people) and other issues pandering to the Move.on Dailey Kos minority radicals.
Their theme was transformed from original intent to revenge.
--and Rebs get no free pass either
They came in power with a boom during Clinton years with-their "Contract with America" and used it wisely getting welfare reform thru (credit was given to Bill despite his intial veto's)
--however once in power with double team of pres and congress--They totally abandoned "contract" and abused their new found power instead.
Their theme was transformed from original intent to revenge.
--and Rebs get no free pass either
They came in power with a boom during Clinton years with-their "Contract with America" and used it wisely getting welfare reform thru (credit was given to Bill despite his intial veto's)
--however once in power with double team of pres and congress--They totally abandoned "contract" and abused their new found power instead.
As someone who advocated more liberal lean - or at least a more down the middle approach to legislation and ideas than the conservative majority, I don't agree with your first paragraph take all that much. The most important issue for me at the time (other than health care issues) was the Iraq war and getting some sensible idea of an end game - which the dems tried to make happen in many different ways (you call that spending most of their time on "retreat") - only to be hogtied and stonewalled by majority and the Bush veto pen. I wish they would have taken a stronger approach than they did, actually, and think the time they spent was at the behest of voters who put them in office.
Of course you blame the dems for spending time on investigating people - which is ironic considering the aftermath of the Clinton investigations - and considering the activities and assault on the constitution engaged in by the current administration. I think they probably should have gone farther, if anything, considering the abuses of power and the ongoing grabs for more. Not sure about the nebulous "other issues," so I can stop there.
I do admire the conservatives, as they did stay pretty true to their promises - at least during the first term. It wasn't until Rove, Cheney and the gang completely took over the message and activities when all that changed, as you mentioned.
Chad - I agree. This notion that the new congress had a 'revenge' agenda is ridiculous. If anything they have been blasted by the further left support for the exact opposite. Don't know where DTB has gotten this idea - perhaps it was in his head and assumed before they ever took office.
