Record Income for Oil

[Palehose]

---and for those who get their info on Saudi Arabia from Micheal Moore documentaries/Moveon.org

While it is no secret Saudi is the heart of mohobyism (Sp) saying the gov there backs Bin Laden is more than just far fetched--ask the next Moore deciple that tells you that--if it is so why has
Al-Queda had countless attacks on Suadi gov--
and why have Saudis already killed o rcaptured 18 of their top 26 terrorest there since 911--then ask the Moore/Clinton Kool Aid Klan how many they got in 8 years of looking the other way--maybe someone would like to share with us some FACTS of the terrorist killed or captured in his tenure--

Here is just the top dogs the Saudi's not got enough space to put the others---

Saudi Arabia's Most Wanted Terrorists
Top 26 Terrorists
Arab News*
(Al-Qaeda Terror Network In the Kingdom)

Ideologues

1) Faris Al-Zahrani (surrendered on Aug. 5 in Abha)
2) Abdullah Al-Rashoud (on the run)
3) Sultan Al-Otaibi (on the run)
4) Isa Al-Aushan (killed on July 20 in a shootout in Riyadh?s King Fahd District)
5) Abdul Majeed Al-Munie (killed in Riyadh?s Al-Nahda District on Oct. 12)

Leaders

1) Khaled Haj (killed on April 16 in Riyadh)
2) Abdul Aziz Al-Muqrin (former Al-Qaeda chief who was killed on June 18 in Riyadh)
3) Abdul Kareem Al-Majati (who is outside the Kingdom and is the mastermind behind the Casablanca explosions)
4) Saleh Al-Aufi (present commander of Al-Qaeda in the Kingdom)
5) Rakan Al-Saikhan (killed following the Faiha gun battle on April 12 in Riyadh)

Members

1) Bandar Al-Dakheel (on the run)
2) Faisal Al-Dakheel (killed along with Al-Muqrin on June 18)
3) Taleb Al-Taleb (on the run)
4) Abdullah Al-Subaie (on the run)
5) Saud Al-Otaibi (on the run)
6) Hussein Al-Haski (on the run)
7) Abdul Rahman Al-Yazji (on the run)
8) Aamir Al-Shahri (his body was found on Dec. 23 outside Riyadh)
9) Talal Anbari (killed on April 22 in Jeddah)
10) Ahmed Fadhli (killed on April 22 in Jeddah)
11) Khaled Al-Qurashi (killed on April 22 in Jeddah)
12) Mustafa Mubaraki (killed on April 22 in Jeddah)
13) Nasser Al-Rashed (killed in Faiha gun battle in Riyadh on April 12)
14) Ibrahim Al-Rayyes (killed on Dec. 6 in Riyadh)
15) Othman Al-Amri (surrendered on June 28 in Namas)
16) Mansour Faqeeh (surrendered on Dec. 30 in Najran)

We report--you decide

--and on MC'S --
"We should of stayed in Afghanastan and finished the job---

Would someone that he will listen to please inform him we are still in Afgan (never left)and please inform him of cost 911 had on economy not counting the lives.

You know its bad taste to present Liberals with facts dont you bud ? Its kinda like beating a defenceless child ,they have no way of defending themselves :mj07:

 

[Palehose]

We should of stayed in Afghanastan and finished the job


Holy smokes! We left when did we leave ? I missed that part

 

[djv]

Pale you said you asked me a question. What was it? And when you here folks say we should have complete are mission in Afgan. I believe they mean capture Bin. And for sure knock the poppies drug trade out. Neither have happen. We pulled to many troops from there and sent them to Iraq for some reason yet to be decided. By the way N Korea started the Korea war. Like
Germany started WW I And WW II. I guess liberals started the civil war. I am surprise you say those no good take no action liberals would start anything.
In anycase I don't know of any war other then the Iraq war that has helped screw up our gas prices. That would be twice.

 

[Master Capper]

Never said we left, but we diverted resources that could be used to stabilize the country and the country is very shaky with warlords still controlling vast regions of the country which is not a democracy. To compare Vietnam or Korea to the war on terror is in error as they have very little in common but do share one thing in common that it was an error to get into battle in those countries. Unfortunately, you guys cannot or will not see both sides of the coin and are punch drunk on that fine tasting Rush Limbaugh Codiene Kool Aid (Hey didn't Rush say on his TV show that all drug abusers should be imprisoned? Well I guess that tune has changed) I challenge you to list any terrorist acts comitted by Iraq towards the US, but do the math for me on what percentage of terrorist that have committed crimes against the US come from. Is this list like the deck of cards from Iraq? Sure there should be alot of Saudi's busted for terror as they committ 85% of the terrorism.

 

[BobbyBlueChip]

Great success that the House of Saud is having with Al Qaeda. You would think with that kind of success, there wouldn't be a need to issue another list of 36 more top operatives that they have to classify as "on the run" like they did last month.

The thing about having a foreign invader on your doorstep is it makes the whole organization come out of an assembly line. For every one they kill, 3 more are spawned.

One would also think with the Saudi's having Al-Qaeda under their thumb, the US Embassey in Riyadh wouldn't have to issue the following order last week:

"The American embassy in Riyadh advises all American citizens living in Saudi Arabia that it has received indications of operational planning for a terrorist attack or attacks in the kingdom," the U.S. embassy in Riyadh said in a statement.

"The embassy has no specific information concerning timing, target or method of any possible attack(s)."

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Saudi is indeed a tough area Bobby--and I agree much of the financing and recruitment comes from there basically because it is the very heart of (spelling again) Mohobyism--and if not for Royal family there backing fight on terror it would be extremely dangerous--however if the terrorist biggest mistake was assualting us on 911 the next biggest would be their assualt on Saudi and Iraq general population--has changed more opinions of Muslims than anything we could have done.

P.S. GREAT JOB on logo!!!! It's a dandy

 

[BobbyBlueChip]

Ultimately, I think the reason that we're in Iraq is to be proactive in having a base to prevent an extremist Islamic takeover of the Saudi oil fields. And that may even be a good enough reason for going to war, but us being in Iraq, and the Saudi royals support of that, makes the threat of a Saudi coup more likely, not less.

 

[Marco]

If this was about going after the terrorists and getting payback for 9/11 we'd have invaded and cleaned out Saudi, where the majority of the 9/11 terrorists were from.....

Heaven forbid we actually step on the King of Saudi's toes or interrupt the relationship between the American president and the Saudi Kings....would be a travesty to cut those financial ties...

Like it would really make a difference anyway, you guys swat a few flies at the dump, if the screens aren't in place in America someplace inside the USA will be added to the list of places like Egypt and England, who are supposed to be "safer for us fighting them over there."

You can spend a trillion over there and you still won't accomplish any goals that Bush wants....

 

[ferdville]

"You can spend a trillion over there and you still won't accomplish any goals that Bush wants...."

Might be true, but what do you do? Do you just sit here and "hope" everything turns out ok?

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

They sit on the sidelines and bitch and moan like whiney sore losers. They blame Bush for everything but offer no alternative solutions or plans. They don't even want it to "turn out ok" Fred...seriously...the liberals want us to fail and everyone knows it. That's why I think they are pathetic. They are unpatriotic pussies.

 

[djv]

Mason they did offer a solution. You may have missed it. Complete the mission in Afghanistan and invade Saudi not hold there hands. If we had to invade someone they were the ones involved in 9/11.
So we throw billions away in Iraq and were still doing that. All that money that was needed here to help make things safer. Just so we could try nation building in Iraq. Wow they had a half ass election. Wow they may right a Constitution. U S A's cost so far over 300 billion. To many lives lost. And when we leave watch what happens. You cant be dump enough to think your can change 2000 years.

 

[Palehose]

Invade Saudi ! :mj07:

My goodness there are some people here that just dont understand the world they live in . I really cant think of something this stupid how do you guys do it ?

 

[kosar]

Pale,

How do you propose we stop the flow of terrorists, money and support that originates in Saudi Arabia? Just keep the status quo?

Invade Turkey?

 

[Palehose]

I know that the last thing we want to due is to overthrow Governments that are working with us to wipe out terrorism . The fact that many Terrorist come from Saudi dosent have anything to do with wether the government is supporting it Like Sadaam did vr's this :

While it is no secret Saudi is the heart of mohobyism (Sp) saying the gov there backs Bin Laden is more than just far fetched--ask the next Moore deciple that tells you that--if it is so why has
Al-Queda had countless attacks on Suadi gov--
and why have Saudis already killed o rcaptured 18 of their top 26 terrorest there since 911--then ask the Moore/Clinton Kool Aid Klan how many they got in 8 years of looking the other way--maybe someone would like to share with us some FACTS of the terrorist killed or captured in his tenure--

Here is just the top dogs the Saudi's not got enough space to put the others---

Saudi Arabia's Most Wanted Terrorists
Top 26 Terrorists
Arab News*
(Al-Qaeda Terror Network In the Kingdom)

Ideologues

1) Faris Al-Zahrani (surrendered on Aug. 5 in Abha)
2) Abdullah Al-Rashoud (on the run)
3) Sultan Al-Otaibi (on the run)
4) Isa Al-Aushan (killed on July 20 in a shootout in Riyadh?s King Fahd District)
5) Abdul Majeed Al-Munie (killed in Riyadh?s Al-Nahda District on Oct. 12)

Leaders

1) Khaled Haj (killed on April 16 in Riyadh)
2) Abdul Aziz Al-Muqrin (former Al-Qaeda chief who was killed on June 18 in Riyadh)
3) Abdul Kareem Al-Majati (who is outside the Kingdom and is the mastermind behind the Casablanca explosions)
4) Saleh Al-Aufi (present commander of Al-Qaeda in the Kingdom)
5) Rakan Al-Saikhan (killed following the Faiha gun battle on April 12 in Riyadh)

Members

1) Bandar Al-Dakheel (on the run)
2) Faisal Al-Dakheel (killed along with Al-Muqrin on June 18)
3) Taleb Al-Taleb (on the run)
4) Abdullah Al-Subaie (on the run)
5) Saud Al-Otaibi (on the run)
6) Hussein Al-Haski (on the run)
7) Abdul Rahman Al-Yazji (on the run)
8) Aamir Al-Shahri (his body was found on Dec. 23 outside Riyadh)
9) Talal Anbari (killed on April 22 in Jeddah)
10) Ahmed Fadhli (killed on April 22 in Jeddah)
11) Khaled Al-Qurashi (killed on April 22 in Jeddah)
12) Mustafa Mubaraki (killed on April 22 in Jeddah)
13) Nasser Al-Rashed (killed in Faiha gun battle in Riyadh on April 12)
14) Ibrahim Al-Rayyes (killed on Dec. 6 in Riyadh)
15) Othman Al-Amri (surrendered on June 28 in Namas)
16) Mansour Faqeeh (surrendered on Dec. 30 in Najran)

We report--you decide

Now show me the same for Iran and Iraq ?????????????

 

[kosar]

Saudi Arabia is very aggressive in tracking down terrorists that blow things up within Saudi Arabia. Otherwise they are lax if not somewhat complicit.

I don't agree that we should invade, but i'm not sure it sends the right message to them to have our prez walking through the flowers holding hands with the prince.

You don't seem bothered that a large % of terrorists are Saudi or have a safe place to go in Saudi.

I agree with you about Iran. They sponsor terror and barely try to hide it.

But how could Iraq have shown a captured list when there weren't any there? 'Weren't' being the key word. It's teeming with them now, thanks to us.

So I guess i'll take your non-answer to mean that it's acceptable to keep the status quo regarding Saudi Arabia? Even though Saudis did 9/11 and saudis are pouring into Iraq killing our troops?

Funny, just a few minutes ago fox news did a piece on 'What to do about Saudi Arabia.'

But to you they're no problem. But Iraq was? I'm reasonably certain that if W told us that Greece was an immediate threat, that you'd believe him.

 

[ferdville]

djv
Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000
Posts: 8,608

"Mason they did offer a solution. You may have missed it. Complete the mission in Afghanistan and invade Saudi not hold there hands. If we had to invade someone they were the ones involved in 9/11."

DJV - exactly what group of Democrats suggested that?
I must have missed that too!

 

[ocelot]

I KNEW not to trust them Greeks!

 

[TonyTT]

The fact that many Terrorist come from Saudi dosent have anything to do with wether the government is supporting it

Hell the next thing you know, they'll be telling us that RASHID ASWAT of the London bombings was a MI-6 "intell asset".

TT

 

[Palehose]

I can see it now :

Sadaam :

1.Breaking 20 UN resolutions for what 10 years ?

2. Used WMD's on his own people to the tune of 200,000

3. Publisized the fact he will pay $20,000 to the familly's of dead suicide bombers
4. Bribery in the form of Food for Oil program

5. this list could go on for 20 pages

Vrs The King of Saudi

1. hmmmm cant think of anything ...he sure isnt breaking UN resolutions because none are aimed at Saudi

2. OK I think he does have Nukes , but has zero record of using WMD's on anybody let alone his own people .

3. hmmm Saudi has a huge interest in keeping Radical Muslims out of his country because he knows they want to turn his Monarchy into a Muslim state .

Can you Imagine the outrage if Bush said we are going to Invade Saudi because so many terrorist have proven to have been born their ....from the exact people who suggested such a ridiculous solution yet alone the rest of the planet . Thats what I love about liberals they get defeated by their own silly suggestions

 

[AR182]

it seems to me that the saudi gov't is trying to play both sides.....giving into the extremists & pacifying the west.......

hopefully someday they will wake up.


i have seen some ex-cia agents who thought that iran was the country to invade & not iraq