Six Nations International Rugby
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i was on Ireland too crook, you had convinced me and you had a great point. it was a perfect situation, last game of six nations, grand slam opportunity, at home, playing really good rugby all along...but let me say, hats off to the english, great second half they are just that good!
also i was happy with my little italians, i think we belong to this tournament and we reached a point where we can compete with wales and scotland at least although a final win in scotland would have been huge for italian rugby, so close.
also i was happy with my little italians, i think we belong to this tournament and we reached a point where we can compete with wales and scotland at least although a final win in scotland would have been huge for italian rugby, so close.
I wan't going to post on this thread, but in the end I felt compelled to.
Crooky, you took by far the best bet and VALUE. If you were in the same position every year you would collect atleast 3 times out of 10.
The game was over at half time, although the score didn't suggest that. Once England had the wind at their backs Ireland were never going to threaten England to the same degree as the first half.
If the England that had played the previous four games in the six nations had turned up for this game, then Crooky and all that coat tailed him would have won on the bets.
This England performance was awesome and it is apparent that England now go through the motions against the minnows of world rugby, yet when it comes to the elite teams, they raise their game. On this performance I feel their is only one team in World Rugby that could beat them and that is New Zealand. Perhaps I am over confident or my national pride has taken over. I would be pleased to hear the views of Crooky and other's who witnessed the game.
Crooky, you took by far the best bet and VALUE. If you were in the same position every year you would collect atleast 3 times out of 10.
The game was over at half time, although the score didn't suggest that. Once England had the wind at their backs Ireland were never going to threaten England to the same degree as the first half.
If the England that had played the previous four games in the six nations had turned up for this game, then Crooky and all that coat tailed him would have won on the bets.
This England performance was awesome and it is apparent that England now go through the motions against the minnows of world rugby, yet when it comes to the elite teams, they raise their game. On this performance I feel their is only one team in World Rugby that could beat them and that is New Zealand. Perhaps I am over confident or my national pride has taken over. I would be pleased to hear the views of Crooky and other's who witnessed the game.
Derek, everything you said above makes sense!
At 20/1 and 10/1 I had a great run for my money. I was absolutely gutted last night at picking up nothing, and this Six Nations has been poor from a betting perspective. I was looking to lay off throughout the tournament, but there was no opportunity to do so, without risking a large part of my potential profit.
The performance from England yesterday was as near perfect than I have ever seen from a rugby team. They made a very good Irish team look poor. Their defence was simply awesome, and handling skills, fitness levels, to a equally high standard. Nobody has been as big a critic of England than me. They have repeatedly blown it when it came down to the big occasion in the past, and I have always felt that they were overrated. True, as you already pointed out, very very few international countries will be able to compete with that standard shown yesterday. I have no arguments in losing to that yesterday. If you are going to lose I would rather lose like that, rather than missing kicks, and blowing a game that a team should have won.
Looking to the World Cup, I would still take New Zealand, and then France over the English. New Zealands strength in depth is frightning, and the French will beat anybody on their day. Take Johnny Wilkinson out of that team, and England do not have a fly half to come in, who can kick virtually anything, tackle like a back rower, and control a game so superbly. Take Richard Hill out of the team, and you do not have possibly the best back row man in world rugby, to cover every inch of grass, and do the dirty work, not often recognised by the media. Take Martin Johnson, and you lose the best leader in world rugby. His physical presence is immense, and he is vital to England.
If these players stay healthy up until the end of the year, then England have a great shout. We now know what level of performance they are able to produce, it is just a question how often they can repeat this. :shrug:
With reference to Italy, they should be mighty proud of their efforts this year. They have a top man in John Kirwan, and their main task over the coming years, will be to keep this man as head coach of Italy. I doubt ,that should a better offer come his way, he will stay. As rugby develops in Italy, then they have the potential to be a top 6 rugby team, but they need more TV coverage, and lets not forget that their best player, one Diego Dominguez, will be retiring soon.
As for Wales, I am very sad at talk that soccer is quick becoming our national sport. As somebody who has grown up in the hot bed rugby areas of the South Wales valleys, I will never accept that this will ever happen. The push for provincial rugby is vital, and yet stubborn and selfish rugby administrators in Wales continue to stall on the idea, even after a wooden spoon. Wales can forget the World Cup, and concentrate only on developing a young team, to be ready for 2007, which could well be held in France.
From a capping perspective, I can only apologise for a poor Six Nations. It was tough going ever since the unexpected defeat of Wales by Italy, and the Ireland outright bets was the only thing going to bail us out. I can guarantee you this is a temporary hitch only. There is plenty ahead....the Heineken Cup ( a main source of my high profits this year) starts again early April, and there is more international rugby over the summer. Super 12 threads will start again on the weekend, and it just a matter of turning the corner, and getting another hatful of winners under the belt.
I will update my rugby record on the site, just as soon as I have time to go back through my plays, but I am confident we will still be well in the black, although the elusive $10,000 profit is further away that I would have liked at this point of the season.
Thanks all for contributing during this tournament......it has been a great thread!!
At 20/1 and 10/1 I had a great run for my money. I was absolutely gutted last night at picking up nothing, and this Six Nations has been poor from a betting perspective. I was looking to lay off throughout the tournament, but there was no opportunity to do so, without risking a large part of my potential profit.
The performance from England yesterday was as near perfect than I have ever seen from a rugby team. They made a very good Irish team look poor. Their defence was simply awesome, and handling skills, fitness levels, to a equally high standard. Nobody has been as big a critic of England than me. They have repeatedly blown it when it came down to the big occasion in the past, and I have always felt that they were overrated. True, as you already pointed out, very very few international countries will be able to compete with that standard shown yesterday. I have no arguments in losing to that yesterday. If you are going to lose I would rather lose like that, rather than missing kicks, and blowing a game that a team should have won.
Looking to the World Cup, I would still take New Zealand, and then France over the English. New Zealands strength in depth is frightning, and the French will beat anybody on their day. Take Johnny Wilkinson out of that team, and England do not have a fly half to come in, who can kick virtually anything, tackle like a back rower, and control a game so superbly. Take Richard Hill out of the team, and you do not have possibly the best back row man in world rugby, to cover every inch of grass, and do the dirty work, not often recognised by the media. Take Martin Johnson, and you lose the best leader in world rugby. His physical presence is immense, and he is vital to England.
If these players stay healthy up until the end of the year, then England have a great shout. We now know what level of performance they are able to produce, it is just a question how often they can repeat this. :shrug:
With reference to Italy, they should be mighty proud of their efforts this year. They have a top man in John Kirwan, and their main task over the coming years, will be to keep this man as head coach of Italy. I doubt ,that should a better offer come his way, he will stay. As rugby develops in Italy, then they have the potential to be a top 6 rugby team, but they need more TV coverage, and lets not forget that their best player, one Diego Dominguez, will be retiring soon.
As for Wales, I am very sad at talk that soccer is quick becoming our national sport. As somebody who has grown up in the hot bed rugby areas of the South Wales valleys, I will never accept that this will ever happen. The push for provincial rugby is vital, and yet stubborn and selfish rugby administrators in Wales continue to stall on the idea, even after a wooden spoon. Wales can forget the World Cup, and concentrate only on developing a young team, to be ready for 2007, which could well be held in France.
From a capping perspective, I can only apologise for a poor Six Nations. It was tough going ever since the unexpected defeat of Wales by Italy, and the Ireland outright bets was the only thing going to bail us out. I can guarantee you this is a temporary hitch only. There is plenty ahead....the Heineken Cup ( a main source of my high profits this year) starts again early April, and there is more international rugby over the summer. Super 12 threads will start again on the weekend, and it just a matter of turning the corner, and getting another hatful of winners under the belt.
I will update my rugby record on the site, just as soon as I have time to go back through my plays, but I am confident we will still be well in the black, although the elusive $10,000 profit is further away that I would have liked at this point of the season.
Thanks all for contributing during this tournament......it has been a great thread!!
Thanks again for all the picks crooky. I'm much more of a rugby fan than I was 3 months ago. Here's to a profitable rest of the year.
Crooky, your last message is this thread is as high a quality as in the past. It is very hard to swallow what nearly was a tremendous coup.
I am not saying England will win the world cup, in fact I believe they will do well to reach the final. This performance by England was long overdue, one that they have threaten to do for some considerable time. Yet like you I belive that England will struggle to repeat this performance. There will be of course glimpse's of it from various positions on the field but as an over all team performance, well I will wait and see. What is fact though is that to win the world cup it will take not one performance like this but probably three.
Football will never take over Rugby in Wales. Rugby is a die hard sport and the root will always be there. The demise of the coal mining industry put the first nail in the coffin. This broke up the communities and turned them into "town-ites". Blame the Tories. At the moment Wales are playing well in football, the best team in many a decade, but when this crop of players who are in their prime now decline, I fear that the standard will once again drop. RUGBY WILL ALWAYS BE THE NUMBER ONE SPORT. YOU ONLY HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ATTENDENCE FOR EACH SPORT. Football is well down, and no one can argue that they play in different parts of the country, they share the same ground, the very impressive Millenium Stadium.
I am not saying England will win the world cup, in fact I believe they will do well to reach the final. This performance by England was long overdue, one that they have threaten to do for some considerable time. Yet like you I belive that England will struggle to repeat this performance. There will be of course glimpse's of it from various positions on the field but as an over all team performance, well I will wait and see. What is fact though is that to win the world cup it will take not one performance like this but probably three.
Football will never take over Rugby in Wales. Rugby is a die hard sport and the root will always be there. The demise of the coal mining industry put the first nail in the coffin. This broke up the communities and turned them into "town-ites". Blame the Tories. At the moment Wales are playing well in football, the best team in many a decade, but when this crop of players who are in their prime now decline, I fear that the standard will once again drop. RUGBY WILL ALWAYS BE THE NUMBER ONE SPORT. YOU ONLY HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ATTENDENCE FOR EACH SPORT. Football is well down, and no one can argue that they play in different parts of the country, they share the same ground, the very impressive Millenium Stadium.
Six Nations Posting Record :
3/11 (27%) -5.93 Units
Very poor Six Nations. As I said in my previous posts, the Ireland ante post wager would have made us a killing. So near....yet so far! :shrug:
3/11 (27%) -5.93 Units
Very poor Six Nations. As I said in my previous posts, the Ireland ante post wager would have made us a killing. So near....yet so far! :shrug:
UPDATED MADJACKS RUGBY POSTING RECORD :
International Rugby : 11/22 (50%) -0.32 Units
Domestic Rugby : 25/33 (76%) +17.38 Units
OVERALL YTD : 36/55 (65%) +17.06 Units (+?1706/$2652 calculated to a ?100 Unit Stake)
It still reads well. ?100 a unit on my plays and you would be $2652 in the black. As some will be aware I have not posted for the last fortnight. I have got the Ireland bet out of my system, and the bad Six Nations is gone. As with all losers, there are lessons to be learnt.
I will recommence my postings from this weekend starting with Super 12 on Thursday night. The weekend brings the return of the Heineken Cup. I am 25/33 (76%) on the Heineken Cup this season alone, so will be looking to mnake that record even better. Note there are still two ante post tokens running on this tournament at good prices. Lets hope for more luck than with the Ireland bet!
International Rugby : 11/22 (50%) -0.32 Units
Domestic Rugby : 25/33 (76%) +17.38 Units
OVERALL YTD : 36/55 (65%) +17.06 Units (+?1706/$2652 calculated to a ?100 Unit Stake)
It still reads well. ?100 a unit on my plays and you would be $2652 in the black. As some will be aware I have not posted for the last fortnight. I have got the Ireland bet out of my system, and the bad Six Nations is gone. As with all losers, there are lessons to be learnt.
I will recommence my postings from this weekend starting with Super 12 on Thursday night. The weekend brings the return of the Heineken Cup. I am 25/33 (76%) on the Heineken Cup this season alone, so will be looking to mnake that record even better. Note there are still two ante post tokens running on this tournament at good prices. Lets hope for more luck than with the Ireland bet!
