Strikeforce: "Fedor vs. Rogers", Nov. 7th, Hoffman Estates, IL

[kickserv]

Werdum got fucking destroyed by Dos Santos......

And Overeem has too many Roids to fight in North America.


Werdum not even top 10 HW in the world....maybe top 15...maybe.


And yes I know Brainiac was just kidding.......but thought I'd answer anyway....Big Foot has fought nobody.....absolutely nobody.

"Overeem over anybody"......that was a funny quote:mj07:

 

[gardenweasel]

i didn`t mean that as a shot at brainiac...he does damn well wagering on this stuff...

i just don`t necessarily agree with the comment...particularly overeem...he`s on a bit of a streak,but,lord,he`s fought nobody of late.......

i admittedly haven`t watched overeem in a while....so,maybe he`s improved considerably and i`m wrong...:shrug:

 

[kegray1]

Big Foot has fought nobody.....absolutely nobody.

 

[weepaul]

[Big Foot has fought nobody.....absolutely nobody.

Carwin has fought nobody apart from a hot and cold Gonzaga who was handing him his arse until he was stupid enough to go for the takedown.

People talk like Carwin is the second coming of Fedor (THAT WOULD BE AN MMA GOD).

What the Fuck has Brock done??? Lost to and then beat Mir, a guy who was battered by Ian Freeman for Fuk sake.
He then beat an 87 year old Randy, who will lose to Vera this weekend.

Fedor fights who is put in front of him. I would take Barnett over most of the UFC bunch.
Barnett Fucked that fight up, not Fedor.

 

[gardenweasel]

Carwin has fought nobody apart from a hot and cold Gonzaga who was handing him his arse until he was stupid enough to go for the takedown.

People talk like Carwin is the second coming of Fedor (THAT WOULD BE AN MMA GOD).

What the Fuck has Brock done??? Lost to and then beat Mir, a guy who was battered by Ian Freeman for Fuk sake.
He then beat an 87 year old Randy, who will lose to Vera this weekend.

Fedor fights who is put in front of him. I would take Barnett over most of the UFC bunch.
Barnett Fucked that fight up, not Fedor.

i think barnett`s worthy...tough guy...and i also am not sold on carwin....

but the overeem that i remember consistently did well early vs stiff competition and folded late if he couldn`t finish(my personal recollection)..........

bigfoot might be good...but,it`s way to early to tell,imo...

 

[The Sponge]

Good logic Sponge......blame the "others" for not leaving the UFC.

Fedor is a disgrace and NEEDS TO FIGHT THE BEST.

Again if the ufc guys think they are the best they should just jump over to strike force and test themselves. Why does Fedor have to come to them? The best doesn't come running for fights. People want to test their skills against the best. Fedor is the best. Randy tried until Dana blocked everything. Give Randy some kudo's for that. I don't see any of the others saying they want Fedor and they want to test themselves. Fedor smashed AA and Silva the two UFC heavyweight champs. Why does he have to be a slave to Dana? Fedor say's fuk em. They want the best come get me. The best never caters to anyone including Dana. The best doesn't cater to a Dana puppet either Kickserv :mj07: :mj07:

 

[gardenweasel]

Again if the ufc guys think they are the best they should just jump over to strike force and test themselves. Why does Fedor have to come to them? The best doesn't come running for fights. People want to test their skills against the best. :

spongy...at this particular point in time,that`s sort of like saying the 1985 chicago bears should swing over to the usfl to prove they were better than the baltimore stars....

strikeforce is a neophyte organization at this point...the ufc is the big dog.....they hold all the cards....that would be silly for the ufc to allow any of their fighters to face strikeforce fighters...

they have everything to lose and little to gain...

 

[The Brainiac]

So who are the TOP guys in the UFC I haven't heard about ? Carwin the stiff ? Kongo aka whats ground game ? Mir - I will soon catch up on Randy's close to break even record :mj07: :142smilie
Werdum's loss is like Mir's win over Nog .
Only legit guy is Brock and maybe Dos Santos . PS : Brock is god and will win his next 26 fights in a row to catch up on Fedor .

 

[The Sponge]

spongy...at this particular point in time,that`s sort of like saying the 1985 chicago bears should swing over to the usfl to prove they were better than the baltimore stars....

strikeforce is a neophyte organization at this point...the ufc is the big dog.....they hold all the cards....that would be silly for the ufc to allow any of their fighters to face strikeforce fighters...

they have everything to lose and little to gain...

Why would the Bears do that? They were the best. The UsFL stunk. The point is that Kick keeps saying that if Fedor wants to be considered the best then he has to go over to the UFC. For what? Those guys can come to him. Why don't those guys want to be called the best? They know who the best is so go get him. Just finish ur contract and head over. It is that simple. They won't because they will stay were their bread is buttered. Just like Fedor does. Those guys could cry all they want on how they want to fight Fedor but if they truly did they know where to find him. AA found him and so did Silva.

 

[kegray1]

M1 has suggested a co promoted event and Dana wants NOTHING to do with that.
FEDOR vs. BROCK and both men and organizations make a ton of cash.
Imagine a one night only PPV Strikeforce vs UFC entire card.
If Dana thinks his fighters are so much better then what is the issue.
Fedor vs Brock
Mousasi vs Anderson Silva or even Machida
Jake Shields vs GSP
Sapp vs Kimbo

FEDOR ONLY FEARS ONE THING...


A CRAPPY CONTRACT FROM DANA!

 

[kickserv]

Yeah....Dana didn't make a fair offer:mj07:

Fedor is a joke to MMA...an absolute joke.....a great fighter.....yes. But one that is massively over-rated and one that DOES NOT FIGHT THE BEST

 

[gardenweasel]

Why would the Bears do that? They were the best. The UsFL stunk. The point is that Kick keeps saying that if Fedor wants to be considered the best then he has to go over to the UFC. For what? Those guys can come to him. .

he doesn`t want to be considered the best......

he is considered the best....nobody disputes that...can`t say that lesnar,after a handful of fights deserves to be rated above fedor...

right now,fedor is the big kahuna...he`s the h.n.o.d.....

that`s a fact...:shrug:

 

[kegray1]

But one that is massively over-rated and one that DOES NOT FIGHT THE BEST

You just described Brock Lesnar as well. Until he fights Fedor then he doesn't fight the best.

 

[kickserv]

I agree I think Fedor would beat Lesner. I also think Carwin, and Dos Santos beat Lesner and Fedor.

Fedor will get exposed when he fights the best.....sadly he is in an organization that leaves him nobody. What's next after Rogers.....answer....NOBODY. Fedor is a disgrace, simple as that. Fight the best you scumbag:nono:

 

[kickserv]

And bash me all you want.......but Rogers (who pretty much stinks) does have a shot at beating Fedor in first 3 minutes.

Sad that Fedor is fighting a guy that is good for 3 minutes.....great competition Fedor.......:mj07:

 

[gardenweasel]

And bash me all you want.......but Rogers (who pretty much stinks) does have a shot at beating Fedor in first 3 minutes.

Sad that Fedor is fighting a guy that is good for 3 minutes.....great competition Fedor.......:mj07:

nobody`s bashing you,partner.....we just disagree.....

no biggie...

 

[kegray1]

I agree Rogers has a punchers chance but a small window like you said.
I think dos Santos vs Fedor would be a hell of a fight.
I think Carwin would be in the same boat as Rogers needing the big punch because Fedor would submit him once on the ground.

 

[muhr]

i don't understand Kicks logic anymore. He acts like Fedor is dodging everyone. Why don't any of those top guys in the ufc let their contract run out if they were so dying to fight Fedor? :shrug: Seems simple to me. They can see if they are the best. You know Strikeforce would pay them big time also. So kick why doesn't Carwin just fight out his contract and run over to Strikeforce and fight Fedor? All these guys in the ufc have that option when their contract runs out. Why don't they go test themselves like you want Fedor to come to the UFC and test himself? The only one who even came close to having these kind of balls was Randy. It is not Carwin or Brock who have been annoited the baddest man on the planet. It is Fedor. Fedor doesn't have to do shit if he doesn't want to. The UFC guys are the ones who need to prove themselves and step up like Randy tried. I never see Mayweather fighting on others boxers terms. They fight to Mayweathers. Maybe if Dana leaves the UFC and joins strikeforce then Kick will have a change of heart.

2 guys already tried that, sylvia and arlovski. it didn't work out too well, they've both been blackballed from the ufc and as such have limited economic opportunities.

to leave the ufc with the intent of fighting fedor is admirable, but it's career suicide.

randy had his chance to fight fedor, but he decided to unretire in the ufc instead. dana talked him into returning to the hw division and fighting sylvia.

 

[The Sponge]

M1 has suggested a co promoted event and Dana wants NOTHING to do with that.
FEDOR vs. BROCK and both men and organizations make a ton of cash.
Imagine a one night only PPV Strikeforce vs UFC entire card.
If Dana thinks his fighters are so much better then what is the issue.
Fedor vs Brock
Mousasi vs Anderson Silva or even Machida
Jake Shields vs GSP
Sapp vs Kimbo

FEDOR ONLY FEARS ONE THING...


A CRAPPY CONTRACT FROM DANA!

Dana would never do that. His guys might get beat. Fedor and Shields would win and Mousasi fight would be a draw. Oh and Kimbo would win to save the day. Kimbo the savior of the UFC.

 

[BUCSnotYUCKS]

M1 has suggested a co promoted event and Dana wants NOTHING to do with that.
FEDOR vs. BROCK and both men and organizations make a ton of cash.
Imagine a one night only PPV Strikeforce vs UFC entire card.
If Dana thinks his fighters are so much better then what is the issue.
Fedor vs Brock
Mousasi vs Anderson Silva or even Machida
Jake Shields vs GSP
Sapp vs Kimbo

FEDOR ONLY FEARS ONE THING...


A CRAPPY CONTRACT FROM DANA!

What is the issue? Dana/UFC gains NOTHING, and Strikeforce gains everything.

This is strictly business, and Dana would be a COMPLETE IDIOT, to co-promote with Strikeforce.