UFC 116 "Lesnar vs. Carwin": July 3rd, Las Vegas, NV

[kickserv]

Fight Card
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Brock Lesnar vs. Shane Carwin
Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Wanderlei Silva
Matt Brown vs. Chris Lytle
Stephan Bonnar vs. Krzysztof Soszynski :canada1
Kurt Pellegrino vs. George Sotiropoulos
Brendan Schaub vs. Chris Tuchscherer
Kendall Grove vs. Goran Reljic
Seth Petruzelli vs. Ricardo Romero
Dave Branch vs. Gerald Harris
Julio Paulino vs. Daniel Roberts
Jon Madsen vs. Karlos Vemola



Seth is back baby.....yep that is right...SETH IS BACK :box2: :box2: :box2:

 

[gardenweasel]

looking forward to a bonnar beatdown...and sotiropoulos/pellegrino...

the rest they can dump into the gulf of mexico...

 

[kickserv]

Shane Carwin beat Brock Lesnar $2.50 (+150) *4.5 Joe Rogans :scared :scared :scared :scared :scared :scared


Yep....mark it down, Lesnar will go down to Carwin. For the first time Lesnar won't know what to do when a big guy gets back up after a take-down. And Carwin hits hard, very hard. Combine that with a long layoff and you got yourself a new champ.

+150 is a gift......a big gift. I am talking a blue whale size gift.

Lesnar goes down

He is done like dinner :0067

 

[kickserv]

GW you have to be on 1950's either, if you are not excited for the Lesnar fight. You can't tell me you will turn off the TV after the George Sotiropoulos fight:box2:

How in the love of all that is GSP can you not get excited for the Lesnar fight:shrug:


Man oh man MMA fans are picky. Holy hell.:nono:

 

[gardenweasel]

GW you have to be on 1950's either, if you are not excited for the Lesnar fight. You can't tell me you will turn off the TV after the George Sotiropoulos fight:box2:

How in the love of all that is GSP can you not get excited for the Lesnar fight:shrug:


Man oh man MMA fans are picky. Holy hell.:nono:

i can tell you i`m probably not shelling out the $44.99 for the first time in forever....

i have old toughman contests on tape with more skilled guys than lesnar and carwin... it either ends in a matter of seconds,or after the first,both guys are so gassed that it turns into a sloppy mess...

bigger ain`t necessarily better...

 

[MayorgaFan]

Akiyama-Silva is a pretty interesting fight.

 

[WhatsHisNuts]

Carwin will be my biggest MMA bet of the year. I don't bet much on these, but this will be bigger than my bet on Mitrione over Kimbo. It's not that I think it is a guarantee, I just think that getting +140 is amazing in this spot and I want to maximize this oportunity. Maximize is a relative term, of course.

 

[Cie]

I am a MMA novice and rarely pay the $50 for these, but will be buying this one or watching at sports bar. Main event strikes my fancy. I certainly wish Lesnar had not fallen ill. Hope the layoff doesn't take away from a good fight.

 

[layinwood]

Lesnar is going to crush Carwin. I HATE Lesnar but this won't be close. He's going to take Carwin down and pound on him. There will be nothing Carwin can do. These two aren't on the same planet when it comes to wrestling and it will show.

 

[gardenweasel]

Lesnar is going to crush Carwin. I HATE Lesnar but this won't be close. He's going to take Carwin down and pound on him. There will be nothing Carwin can do. These two aren't on the same planet when it comes to wrestling and it will show.

i tend to agree....carwin has a puncher`s chance...that`s about it,imo...

 

[WhatsHisNuts]

I don't understand the Carwin haters. He has dispensed everyone they put in front of him in short order. Mir was truly knocked out by one guy, rabbit punched into TKO by the other. I'm sorry, but one guy has impressed me, one hasn't. I think Lesnar is a brute, but I really have not seen anything that makes him a favorite going into this. In my eyes, Lesnar is the one that has something to prove.

 

[kegray1]

We have no idea what kind of chin Lesnar has as he rarely lets anyone find out. He gets you into his grips then it is a takedown.
Carwin might have the most strength of anyone Lesnar has fought and might be able to prevent that type of fight. I stress might.

Lesnar wants nothing to do with standup fight woth anyone and I am guessing he can't take any big shots from Carwin.

I tend to lean towards Carwin in this matchup. Just not sold on Brock to finish fights against quality fighters.
Love to see Carwin knock his ass out.

 

[kickserv]

Carwin will beat Brock....rather easily. Brock will take him down....

AND CARWIN WILL GET BACK UP


CARWIN WILL WIN THIS FIGHT:firing: :firing: :firing:

Brock in for one hell of a "wake up call". See ya Brock...you are done in this one buddy....bye bye:sadwave:

Brock and his size ain't going to mean shit in this fight.

Carwin is a HUGE gift at +150....huge gift:scared

 

[layinwood]

I don't understand the Carwin haters. He has dispensed everyone they put in front of him in short order. Mir was truly knocked out by one guy, rabbit punched into TKO by the other. I'm sorry, but one guy has impressed me, one hasn't. I think Lesnar is a brute, but I really have not seen anything that makes him a favorite going into this. In my eyes, Lesnar is the one that has something to prove.

gmrozz, I'm not a Carwin hater I just think Brock will win. Carwins win vs Mir was impressive other than that I haven't seen much. Gonzaga the king of no heart? Is any of Carwins wins better than Brocks over Randy? Brock made a mistake in one fight and he didn't come close to making in his second. Maybe he didn't win in the first vs Mir but he beat the living shit out of him. If Brock tries to stand and bang with Carwin then it could be bad(I don't know because we haven't seen him hit) but he could have a good chin. I know Brock can take Carwin down. I expect Brock to close the difference and either go to the ground or fight against the cage.

I HATE Brock but I think he wins. Will I bet on him, I don't know but I know for sure I wouldn't bet on Carwin.

 

[The Sponge]

Akiyama-Silva is a pretty interesting fight.

i think the same thing. want to see Wandy at 185 the 2nd time around. guy he is fighting is no clown.

 

[gardenweasel]

gmrozz, I'm not a Carwin hater I just think Brock will win. Carwins win vs Mir was impressive other than that I haven't seen much. Gonzaga the king of no heart? Is any of Carwins wins better than Brocks over Randy? Brock made a mistake in one fight and he didn't come close to making in his second. Maybe he didn't win in the first vs Mir but he beat the living shit out of him. If Brock tries to stand and bang with Carwin then it could be bad(I don't know because we haven't seen him hit) but he could have a good chin. I know Brock can take Carwin down. I expect Brock to close the difference and either go to the ground or fight against the cage.

I HATE Brock but I think he wins. Will I bet on him, I don't know but I know for sure I wouldn't bet on Carwin.

nobody mentioned carwin`s chin...he was one shot away from "bolivian" vs gonzaga....

and he hasn`t seen the second round.....what`s his cardio like?....we do know that lesnar can take it into the second and even the 3rd....

but....that`s one long layoff...i`d have taken a tune-up or maybe two just to get my edge back.....

that`s why i`m probably steering clear...

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

I hate Brock Lesnar more than Kickserv hates the Diaz brothers. Yeah, that's right Kick, I said it. Think it's impossible? It's not. I hate that guy like scabies.

Having said that, the guy is the size of a fucking armoire. If he gets on top of you, I don't think it's as simple as "just getting up." I'm sure Frank Mir thought it would be that easy, but his face looked like Sloth in The Goonies from getting absolutely pummeled once Lesnar took it to the ground. Trust me, I would LOVE to see Lesnar lose, but if he gets someone on the ground I think they're in a shit-ton of trouble.

And FWIW, I still don't know how Lesnar could possibly be 265. Unless of course he's 5'4".

 

[BUCSnotYUCKS]

If it werent for the disease and ring rust, I'd say Carwin stands no chance. However, you never know how a guy is going to bounce back.

I'm definately not a big Carwin fan. I think he's vastly overrated, and I think Brock takes him down, and keeps him there.

You think Brock hasn't muscled up against guys Carwins size? COME ON, I'm sure Brock has fought guys bigger than Brock has! (wrestling that is). Brock isn't going to be shocked by Carwin being big, I promise.

 

[Mjolnir]

Carwin will beat Brock....rather easily. Brock will take him down....

AND CARWIN WILL GET BACK UP


CARWIN WILL WIN THIS FIGHT:firing: :firing: :firing:

Brock in for one hell of a "wake up call". See ya Brock...you are done in this one buddy....bye bye:sadwave:

Brock and his size ain't going to mean shit in this fight.

Carwin is a HUGE gift at +150....huge gift:scared

I'm with you on this one kick. I dont think Lesnar has fought anyone with this kind of knock out power. I really believe it will end up as a knock out in the first round, and Carwin will be 13-0 all knock outs ending in the first.
I gotta study up on the others, familiar with some of the fighters, but not their opponents.
It sucks cuz I'm gonna be hangin with friends that aren't into the ufc, so I gots to find some stream to watch the fight.

 

[ukgaz]

I just can't bet this fight. GG took Carwin down, though he did catch him with strikes before the TD.

I favor Brock but those first few minutes will tell alot. I think Carwin has the first 5 minutes to put Lesnar away. If he does not I think he will lose