UFC 118: Edgar vs. Penn II
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the article that pushed me over the edge to take osipczak...and causing me to have a losing night....
http://www.ufc.com/news/Nick-Osipczak-Born-to-Thrill
don`t believe what you read...watch the film for yourself(if you can find it)...
http://www.ufc.com/news/Nick-Osipczak-Born-to-Thrill
don`t believe what you read...watch the film for yourself(if you can find it)...
GW, the same thing happens to me with this forum. I try to decide what I like before I ever start looking at the threads because I've found myself swayed into liking a fight because of opinions on here instead of my own. Another thing that happens is that because of my own debating on here I end up taking a fighter for more money than I intended to.
i don`t blame anybody for my decisions...i was swayed by the fact that osipczak said exactly what i would have wanted to hear....he knew that the wrestling was an issue and that he was working his ass off to stuff takedowns....he was aware of what soto wanted to do and was ready for it...
obviously,he wasn`t ready enough...
a pattern has emerged...british strikers(excellent fighters,don`t get me wrong)....do not fair all that well outside of britain vs guys with a wrestling base..kelly vs volkmann...winner vs lentz...osipczak vs soto...actually,bisping should have lost vs hammill(even though wrestling was only part of the equation in that fight...and it took place in the u.k.)...
the latter 2 being problematic because i believe that winner and osipczak are the better all around fighters....:shrug:
hard lessons..
GW, it's a big problem for the Brits but I think it's a problem overall in MMA. Most of my bets these days are on wrestlers. The best ones are the young stud wrestlers that are coming out vs guys that are young studs themselves but in other things like bjj and striking.
Hopefully at some point the sport will evolve and there will be a counter to takedowns and also lay n pray.
Hopefully at some point the sport will evolve and there will be a counter to takedowns and also lay n pray.
my book doesn't give me the odds till the day of the fight and it was over two to 1 so i bailed out of it and would be sick to my stomach if i once again got beat by a lay and pray when i knew the possibility was pretty real that this could happen. I liked it when it was even odds but at those odds and the potential of a Brit getting shut down was to much of a risk. I siad this a hundred times on this board and i almost went against it again. Never bet a guy who can't stop a takedown. No matter what he does on the bottom it seems like the judges turn a blind eye to it. If a guy can't stop a take down he better have a strong chin like Leben or forget it. The more and more i thought about it i started liking Maynard but passed on the fight and Kenny does the same thing he always does with a strong wrestler.:facepalm: I passed on everything since i had a wedding to attend. Never really liked anything really on this card but Osipcz till they up the odds.
Didn't get to see the fights as something came up, and today is actually the first chance I've had to look at some of the comments. Just wanted to give props to Mr. Gray on his Edgar call. I didn't have money on any of the fights, but I really thought Penn would take care of business and it looks like I couldn't have been more wrong.
Also, I ended up going 1-2 and all of my picks were faves. :142smilie At least I'm smart enough to know I have no business putting real money on these fights.
Also, I ended up going 1-2 and all of my picks were faves. :142smilie At least I'm smart enough to know I have no business putting real money on these fights.
Well ya play enough of these things and you are bound to have one or two good hunches. I have been on the wrong side that hunch far too often.
