UFC 137: "The Hioki Era Begins", October 29, Las Vegas, NV
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i`m a little baffled by the roop love i`m seeing all over the net.....
other than beating a highly overrated one-trick pony in grispi(who was also exposed by dustin poirer in his next fight),theres nothing on his resume remotely comparable to hioki`s opposition....
and when he did step up,he got dummied(hominick,who has lost twice to hioki).....
hioki has wins over ronnie mann,marlon sandro,hominck twice,
i guess everyone is figuring that hioki falls apart once he hits the states?....i`m aware of the history of japanese fighters here,but if you look at how they`ve been matched,nobody`s doing them any favors....
gomi vs florian
omigawa had to fight chad mendes
fukuda beat ring but got hosed
yamamoto had to fight demetrious johnson
ishida beat justin "silverback"wilcox
kawajiri had to fight gilbert melendez...ditto aoki
akiyama was a disappointment...but belcher/leben/bisping and belfort are all much better fighters than roop...i doubt that roop is anywhere near the level of competition that some of these others had to face in their first ufc/american debuts....
heres roop getting subbed by somebody named ray robinson ...4 subs in 7 losses...
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just playing devil`s advocate...maybe i`m wrong.....but i`m just not seeing it,short of a big head kick out of nowhere.......
but,then again,i had bonnar over marc coleman...:00x12
other than beating a highly overrated one-trick pony in grispi(who was also exposed by dustin poirer in his next fight),theres nothing on his resume remotely comparable to hioki`s opposition....
and when he did step up,he got dummied(hominick,who has lost twice to hioki).....
hioki has wins over ronnie mann,marlon sandro,hominck twice,
i guess everyone is figuring that hioki falls apart once he hits the states?....i`m aware of the history of japanese fighters here,but if you look at how they`ve been matched,nobody`s doing them any favors....
gomi vs florian
omigawa had to fight chad mendes
fukuda beat ring but got hosed
yamamoto had to fight demetrious johnson
ishida beat justin "silverback"wilcox
kawajiri had to fight gilbert melendez...ditto aoki
akiyama was a disappointment...but belcher/leben/bisping and belfort are all much better fighters than roop...i doubt that roop is anywhere near the level of competition that some of these others had to face in their first ufc/american debuts....
heres roop getting subbed by somebody named ray robinson ...4 subs in 7 losses...
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just playing devil`s advocate...maybe i`m wrong.....but i`m just not seeing it,short of a big head kick out of nowhere.......
but,then again,i had bonnar over marc coleman...:00x12
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MMA Record (since UFC 58)
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Prop Bet 42-79
Fighter vs. Fighter 292-453
Parlays 120-189
+4.86 Joe Rogans
Cheick Kongo beat Matt Mitrione $2.20 (+120) *1 Joe Rogan
Hatsu Hioki beat George Roop $1.30 (-333) *3 Joe Rogans
Hatsu Hioki wins inside distance $2.25 (+125) *1 Joe Rogan
Clifford Starks beat Dustin Jacoby $2.15 (+115) *1 Joe Rogan
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Prop Bet 42-79
Fighter vs. Fighter 292-453
Parlays 120-189
+4.86 Joe Rogans
Cheick Kongo beat Matt Mitrione $2.20 (+120) *1 Joe Rogan
Hatsu Hioki beat George Roop $1.30 (-333) *3 Joe Rogans
Hatsu Hioki wins inside distance $2.25 (+125) *1 Joe Rogan
Clifford Starks beat Dustin Jacoby $2.15 (+115) *1 Joe Rogan
Hey bucs dicking around on you tube i ran across this. U ever see this before? :mj07: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGyDacXx8YY&feature=related
His chin isn't worth 2 to 1. Im off that fight even tho the other kid is a stiff.
I wish there was love for Roop :shrug: to get this line down a little. Almost ready to pull the trigger on Hioki but man 355 is not my cup of tea. if i pull the trigger and lose KIck is gonna get his ass kicked. Last time i bet him he lost that tourney. :facepalm:
I think Mitrione is best when he is moving and I can see these two being in kickboxing range. That kind of fight favors Kongo in my view
jacoby didn`t even come close to stopping a takedown...didn`t look like he even prepared for it.....:facepalm:
carmont should get us back for the jacoby debacle...but he`s from france,so i`m still worried...
