UFC 85: London 02 Arena, 6/7/08

gardenweasel

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i wish they`d figure out a way to penalize guys commensurate with the offense.... 1 point in a 3 round fight is most times exorbitant...........
 

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WOW! Bisping looking incredible @ 185. Jason Day didn't stand a chance. Feed him to Anderson Silva now please....... :0corn :0corn
 

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Anderson needs to fight somebody..... ain't much left in the division for him to steam roll through. Filho and misaki are the only middleweights i can even see getting out of round 1. I just hope they dont make the mistake of some day (dare i say this) feeding him to GSP.:SIB
 

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Hughes looked every bit the one-dimensional wrestler and not a very good wrestler.
 

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lol @ hughes calling out Matt Serra post fight. I woulnd't pay a penny to watch this guy fight again.:s2:
 

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That was a train wreck for me.
I knew I shouldn't have touched Hughes.
Please fight Serra and GO AWAY.
 

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matt wiman?.........what an effort vs a very good ju jitsu guy.....whoa....

wiman shocked me on the ground...he was slapping subs on tavares...and he didn`t tire...

one thing i noticed....alves looked huge.....actually,his HEAD looked huge...he looked MUCH bigger than i`ve ever seen him before....

i think somebody needs to do some serious bloodwork on him......that head probably has it`s own solar system...

did o.k...won a few bucks......nothing to write home about...

on to boxing tonight....
 

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matt wiman?.........what an effort vs a very good ju jitsu guy.....whoa....

wiman shocked me on the ground...he was slapping suns on tavares...

one thing i noticed....alves looked huge.....actually,his HEAD looked huge...he looked MUCH bigger than i`ve ever seen him before....

i think somebody needs to do some serious bloodwork on him......that head probably has it`s own solar system...

:mj07: :mj07: :mj07: I thought the same. Man he looked twice the size of Matt.:scared
 

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My Davis bet after forgetting Swick had moved down a weight and looking at the size difference i tried to get out of it and my shit book took them down already.:mj07: Bisping fight. All due respect to Kick but Day is a stiff. Nothing i saw on the film of his last fight impressed me at all. Today he was embarrassing. Hughes? It has already been said. I tried to bet Thiago seeing this size advantage and again i was shut out l:mj07: . I tried to go against Nate and again i was shut out.:mj07: I thought the fight was a draw but that knee and the disgrace from Nate opponents corner not holding him back was mind boggling. If the ref doesn't bring in the doctor he would have gotten killed because he wanted to go fight and was wobbling all over the place. (right before this Rogan was trying to fool people that the ref involved was the best in the business.:shrug: Joe he has improved from horrible but he still is average at best. Lay, must be sick to his stomach.) Bottom line i lost and im sick. Im done betting this sport until i get a book that keeps the lines up at least 5 minutes before the fight. Davis had another brilliant fight plan. I seem to always be on the side of the guy who goes brain dead. HUghes its over. The sport has changed. Wrestlers with no hands and now piss slow have no place in this sport. Serra needs to start working on his game plan? LMFAO. You must have had Serra rolling on the floor laughing.
 
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Thank you Wiman.....ya saved me from disaster....phew:scared Still lost Rogans but big underdog Wiman saved me, thats why odds are so important, not how many ya win, all about the Rogans.....thank you Wiman and Cane:scared

And why so many don't think Bisping is any good is beyond me, I have always liked the guy and he is damn good...damn good:SIB Day isn't a Kimbo, he knows what he's doing, yet made no difference, Bisping just walked right through him:SIB


And now ya know what I mean about not making weight and then fighting, that was a joke of a main event, yes Hughes is an asshole and I have no problem watching him get beat up, but Alves looked like he was Godzilla for fu**s sake. Hope I never see Alves again, fight fair or don't fight. Why one guy kills himself to make weight, and the other just says "ahh my ankle was hurt" but let's fight is bull**it. All that being said, good to see Hughes get beat up, but the fight should have not been fought.

Speaking of weight, Vera is at the wrong weight and was not going to win that fight with Werdum, stoppage might have been premature, but Vera wasn't going to win:SIB



updated record:


MMA Record (since UFC 58)
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Prop Bet 18-8
Fighter vs. Fighter 64-70
Parlays 32-41

+59.74 Joe Rogans
 
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they take this away from swick,i`m goin` gunning for dana white.......


f-ck those bogus point deductions....i`m gettin` sick of this shit...

the best part is that i saw Davis grab the fence three times. I could have swore they were gonna deduct a point from Davis:shrug: Not once did i see Swick get a warning
 

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Speaking of weight, Vera is at the wrong weight and was not going to win that fight with Werdum, stoppage might have been premature, but Vera wasn't going to win:SIB

Vera is a clown. This is the second time after a loss he is asking for crowd approval like he actually won the fight. Im glad i didn't get sucked into taking him again. You don't know what you are getting and he still thinks he is a heavy weight because the fuker won't train hard.
 

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to me...taking a point(actually a full round) away in a 3 round fight for holding the fence(it wasn`t even during a takedown) is downright silly.....

it`s time for the phd`s at the ufc to figure out a more equitable foul penalty system.....

ridiculous...

these guys train for months...blood sweat and tears to have it it taken away by some mofo wearing proctologist`s gloves....

all that money you`re raking in....use your damned heads...help your fighters get a fair shake for their efforts...
 

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I lost a ****in fortune on this UFC mostly due to those cocksucking refs. They are getting as bad as the NBA with how they involve themselves and change outcomes.

That big Prick lets Kimbo get beat on for 3 minutes but stops Vera's fight while he is getting punched on the gloves.

That other stupid Prick Herb Dean takes a point off Nate for hitting the guy on the side of the head with an elbow and then DOES FUK ALL when Lietes hits Nate to the top of the head with his elbow 3 times.

They take a point away from Swick but just warn Davis multiple times for grabbing the fence.

They were talking about standing Hughes fight up while he was in side control?

These refs are a Fukin disgrace.

New game plan for me. Bet on 1 or 2 fights I am confidant in and that gives the refs less chance to Fuk things up.

I liked the first UFC better when the refs job was to pull a fighter off after a tap or the corner threw in the towel.

They should just make it legal to grab the cage or fight in a fukin ring.
 

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to me...taking a point(actually a full round) away in a 3 round fight for holding the fence(it wasn`t even during a takedown) is downright silly.....

it`s time for the phd`s at the ufc to figure out a more equitable foul penalty system.....

ridiculous...

these guys train for months...blood sweat and tears to have it it taken away by some mofo wearing proctologist`s gloves....

all that money you`re raking in....use your damned heads...help your fighters get a fair shake for their efforts...

weasel i agree with ya. 1 point is brutal in a three round fight.
 

The Sponge

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I lost a ****in fortune on this UFC mostly due to those cocksucking refs. They are getting as bad as the NBA with how they involve themselves and change outcomes.

That big Prick lets Kimbo get beat on for 3 minutes but stops Vera's fight while he is getting punched on the gloves.

That other stupid Prick Herb Dean takes a point off Nate for hitting the guy on the side of the head with an elbow and then DOES FUK ALL when Lietes hits Nate to the top of the head with his elbow 3 times.

They take a point away from Swick but just warn Davis multiple times for grabbing the fence.

They were talking about standing Hughes fight up while he was in side control?

These refs are a Fukin disgrace.

New game plan for me. Bet on 1 or 2 fights I am confidant in and that gives the refs less chance to Fuk things up.

I liked the first UFC better when the refs job was to pull a fighter off after a tap or the corner threw in the towel.

They should just make it legal to grab the cage or fight in a fukin ring.

Wee i agree with a lot of what you said. Something has to be done with the fence. Make it out of clear smooth soft plastic or some shit. This point deduction is getting way out of hand but you can change the whole fight by grabbing it.
 

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WOW..

WOW..

Congrats to Cane-bettors, Wiman-bettors, Bisping-bettors, etc. :shrug:

Thoughts on the night: Miragliatta(ref) needs to be fired :mj07: He made some bogus calls tonight and w/ EliteXC/Kimbo.. dont argue with me. :nono:

Devastating night for me.. hope everyone did better..

over 5 units lost on the night.. u can imagine how i felt going into the Hughes fight, having bet on Alves...... Alves somehow pulled it out...

:mj16:

I only had Wiman at +300 and didnt think he had a chance.. passed on it and obviously the wrong call.. Also underestimated Bisping, but can u blame me? :nono: Clearly a force at middleweight, though..

Anyways.. some good fights.. and ill be at the UFC in Altlanta in September, so will be pulling for all of ur bets..

GL.. see u in weeks to come...
 
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