UFC on Versus 4, June 26th, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

gardenweasel

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Wow, I just read the story on Sherdog about Nate and not needing to cut for this. I just always assumed he was a big guy, I never thought about him having to stuff his face to keep that weight on. If that's true I think we're going to see a really good Nate. He should be a lot quicker and more explosive. I'm really anxious to see him fight. If he looks good at weigh ins then I'm probably going to hammer a bet down on him.

nate`s always looked very buff...but i wonder,was he really a huge guy at 185?....apparently,not according to nate....is he blowing smoke?....:shrug:

he looked at a physical disadvantage vs sonnen and okami(who really are big at 185..and in sonnen`s case,well,everybody knows the situation there)... ....

but story is a real pit bull...he`s just not all that polished...i always thought alves was a little one-dimensional and maybe a tad overrated(i could be wrong there).....but if not for the alves win,these odds wouldn`t be nearly this close...

the question seems to be,is marquardt gonna get wrestle-f-cked just like he did vs sonnen?...i don`t think so....sonnen pretty much out-wresles 90% of his opponents,,,,...and marquardt held his own grappling-wise vs okami(and hathaway at the very least,nullified story`s wrestling)....but marquardt did have some trouble with okami`s lefty stance....and story is a lefty....but marquardt will have a small height advantage vs story(he had a ht. disadvantage vs okami).....

story has some nice wins...and his mma career seems to be mimicking his wrestling career(slow start/but becomes a force with experience)....he`s a bulldog....

tough call,but unless the weigh-in indicates that nate looks drained(florian looked drained but showed excellent cardio),i have to roll the dice on a medium play on nate`s well-roundedness and experience(given the odds)...could be way wrong...in the minority given the line movement....and story is on a serious roll...

i hope the kongo odds drop back down....
 
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MMA Record (since UFC 58)
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Prop Bet 40-79
Fighter vs. Fighter 274-426
Parlays 109-175

-3.45 Joe Rogans



Parlay
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John Howard
Charles Oliveira
Ricardo Lamas

odds = $3.49 (+249) *3.5 Joe Rogans:eek: :eek: :eek:
 

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I like Vasquez with the nice ++ beside his name. He has a great heart, and I think he has enough wrestling to keep daddy from humping his way to a win. No way could I ever back daddy on his current streak especially since he's dropping down (although that shouldn't b an issue).

I also like Pat Barry :facepalm: but that's purely because I think Kongo is a total stiff and should never be a favorite and not because I like Barry. Kongo is so much bigger too, so idk... I just see Kongo folding up after a few front leg kicks and then getting ktfo when he clumsily tries to take Barry down.

I like the Meathead too, and I think he easily wins a decision, but there's no value there with a guy who begs to be hit laying that chalk to a huge guy who could flat knock him out.
 
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Plays so far:

Kongo by dec +275 (50=137.50)
Howard inside distance +140 (150=210)
lauzon/Warburton won't complete 2 rounds +125
(200=250)
Gamburyan inside distance +400 (50=200)
Morecraft inside distance +400 (50=200)
Morecraft/ Mitrione won't complete 2 rounds -125
(250=200)

May add more after weigh-in's......
:0corn
 

gardenweasel

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Plays so far:

Kongo by dec +275 (50=137.50)
Howard inside distance +140 (150=210)
lauzon/Warburton won't complete 2 rounds +125
(200=250)
Gamburyan inside distance +400 (50=200)
Morecraft inside distance +400 (50=200)
Morecraft/ Mitrione won't complete 2 rounds -125
(250=200)

May add more after weigh-in's......
:0corn

welcome aboard,man......getting props on some undercard bouts?.....bodog?:D .....i`m jealous......

g.l. on the plays....
 

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If this had something to do with Nate missing weight then Dana is going to be fucking pissed. 1.5 hours before he takes the scale Nate pulls out:scared

Nate better stay away from Dana:firing:
 

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If this had something to do with Nate missing weight then Dana is going to be fucking pissed. 1.5 hours before he takes the scale Nate pulls out:scared

Nate better stay away from Dana:firing:

I was told that he couldn't get medical clearance for the bout.
 

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Minutes ago I received a text message from a very reliable source with the words 'Nate out, Breadman.' At a first glance, it appeared to be some fashionista informing me that something called 'Breadman' is in for the summer of 2011. 'Great!', I thought. I have an unopened loaf of white bread sitting on my counter. I'm already ahead of the trend. That'll show these hipsters in Hollywood. Moments later, I realized 'Breadman' is English for 'Brenneman' and that he would be replacing Nate Marquardt in tomorrow's UFC on Versus 4 card. Keep in mind, the news came down just two hours before weigh-ins (which the stream was apparently canceled due to technical difficulties).
 

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Cant make weight or health concerns trying to get there.....

jr11
 

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Weigh-In Results

* Pat Barry (243) vs. Cheick Kongo (234.4)
* Charlie Brenneman (170.6) vs. Rick Story (170.4)
* Matt Brown (170) vs. John Howard (170.2)
* Matt Mitrione (261.1) vs. Christian Morecraft (261.4)
* Manny Gamburyan (145.8) vs. Tyson Griffin (145.8)
* Joe Stevenson (146) vs. Javier Vazquez (145.8)
* Joe Lauzon (156) vs. Curt Warburton (155.6)
* Rich Attonito (170) vs. Daniel Roberts (170.6)
* Nik Lentz (155.6) vs. Charles Oliveira (153.8)
* Matt Grice (145.2) vs. Ricardo Lamas (145.4)
* Edward Faaloloto (155.4) vs. Michael Johnson (155.2)
 

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Well they have improved, but I'd never go there. Just ask kegray what he thinks:mj07:

Also.......do a search on here for "Bodog" and you will see what I mean.

But as I said I have heard they have improved so you should be fine.
 
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