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Fats have contemplated that very angle myself and is tough to determine here considering this gallery is unlike any other as far as considerations afforded players.
This tourny is tough to cap despite numerous matches ,props ect.It kind of like trying to find angles on superbowl where every piece of info is available. Appears they all have matches basically the same and have stayed away from minor players for most part and are not going out on limb on Mick or Duval in any questionable matches.Think best value will come in 3balls where they don't dictate pairings.
 

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Fats, that caught my eye as well as I've got Weir for a place bet.

I don't have a record of every partner Tiger has had, though it should be a very interesting angle to track, but two occasions spring to mind. They were paired together in the final rounds of the 1999 Motorola Western Open and the 1999 PGA Championship. In the former, Weir was very impressive and could have won despite starting three shots back, but in the 2nd he shot 80
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That was his first taste of being in the final group of a Major and it was good experience for him to go through and he recorded his maiden victory in the Air Canada Championship just four weeks later.

I think after those experiences he is now not one to be fazed by playing with Woods and particularly, as DTB says, in an event in which the crowds are less vociferous. At least that's what I hope
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Boy you guys are quick. Thanks. Having trouble picking matchups this week. For now will just update my record.

lw: 3-2 for +1.10x
ytd: 21-19 for +2.90x


Dogs, I was thinking 3-ball myself. Will start to take a closer look at those.
 

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Adding props:

Nick Faldo to miss the cut +170 @ Five Dimes [2 units]
Finished 28th last year, but had missed three previous cuts at the Masters and with the cut at 44 players plus ties this week, his record of being in the top-44 after two rounds in any event this year is just one from six

Michael Campbell to miss the cut +240 @ Five Dimes
Has played in this event just once in 1996 when he missed the cut and after 1995 - the year he finished 3rd at the British Open - he has missed the cut in six of nine Majors, including two of three last year when back in form. He has played little the PGA Tour, but this year finished 15th in the TPC, but shot 73-78 to miss the cut the week before at Bay Hill

Notah Begay to miss the cut -130 @ Five Dimes [2 units]
Made all the cuts in the Majors last year, but is in dreadful form this year: in six events he has missed four cuts, finished 56th at Bay Hill (was 63rd after 36 holes), and finished virtually last at the Mercedes

Also looking at Thomas Bjorn to miss after his performance at the TPC, but need to find out more about his practice rounds before making it a play
 

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further evidence of Intertops' lack of clues about anything....

they've got matchups involving Adam Scott, Glen Day and Billy Mayfair this week.
 

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Stanley...doesn't a golfer also make the cut if he's within 10 shots of the leader after 36 holes? Good luck
 

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Yes, but only once since 1995 (haven't checked before then) has the 10-shot rule been invoked and that meant the top-49 and ties qualified for the weekend, so we'll still lose half of the "competitive" golfers before the weekend.
 

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Geez Stan, easy on that Kiwi joker Campbell -can't you find any more options to play against him?
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Us sheepshaggers could easily get upset
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Seriously though, I think Cambo may do OK here, just a patriotic hunch, certainly not wagering on it.

Anders' likely bets:

Outrights:
Love 14-1
Singh 15-1
Furyk 34-1
Weir 41-1
Langer 67-1
Flesch 81-1

72-hole match-ups:
Singh -115 v Mickelson
Love -125 v Els
Sutton -120 v Durant
Azinger -115 v Faxon
Campbell -120 v Clarke (well, bugger me, look at that - I am betting on him after all!)
Verplank -120 v Mediate
Flesch -128 v Langham

All at my friendly Centrebet out. Yeah, I know I could have shopped around for better but I've had great success on the Masters with the Alice Springs boys so I'm going with tradition again on this auspicious occasion.
Believe the NZTAB are running a Tiger-out book though so off to look at that; may be value this weekend.

GLTA
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There may be lots of matchups on offer this week, but they seem to be much better-researched than usual
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Looks like there's more value in the props, so adding some more from Centrebet's enormous list:

Aaron Baddeley to miss the cut +155 [3 units]
He may have a great record in Australia, but is awful in the States. He has missed the cut in both of his Major appearances, including the Masters last year, and has made the cut in just one (his first!) on eight appearances on the regular PGA Tour including the Honda Classic last month

Jose Coceres to miss the cut +105 [3 units]
Missed the cut by some distance for a matchup win last week and has only played in one Major on American soil - last year's PGA - and missed the cut. A good competitor on the European Tour, but will always struggle on the very slick greens on offer on this Tour

Pierre Fulke to miss the cut +140 [2 units]
Has only ever played one tournament on American soil and it was last week's BellSouth Classic. He did make the make the cut, but was never higher than 30th. As a debutante at Augusta, the occasion will be too much for him

Retief Goosen to miss the cut +140 [2 units]
Has made the cut in three of nine Majors on American soil and one of two Masters appearances; in regular PGA Tour events, he has a record of four cuts made from twelve events including the TPC and withdrew last week rather than play on Sunday. Has one of the best swings on the European Tour, but like Coceres, struggles to putt on European Tour greens so has no chance on the greens this week

Paul Lawrie to miss the cut +100
Has just two appearances in Majors outside Britain, both last year when he missed the cut (79-74) at the Masters and finished 72nd in the PGA. Does not have record on American soil and that includes a poor showing at the TPC (75-78) two weeks ago

Bob May to miss the cut +110 [2 units]
Has not played since hurting his back at the Bob Hope Classic in February; if this were not the Masters he has admitted he would not be playing and won't be competitive this week

Larry Mize to miss the cut +110 [2 units]
Has missed his last five cuts and while he has finished in the top-25 the last two seasons, it is a very long time since his famous 140-foot chip to win the 1987 Masters

Eduardo Romero to miss the cut +100 [2 units]
It cannot be the ideal preparation for this event that he played the TPC very poorly (78-79) to miss the cut then competed in the Open de Argentina where he disappointed to finish 18th and is now back in the States; this event is obviously not very high on his list of priorities. It is the first time he has played here and like other debutantes will struggle to cope with the vagarities of Augusta

Tom Scherrer to miss the cut -111
Has missed his last four cuts, including the last three weeks, so doesn't come into this event in the best of confidence. As a Masters debutante as well there is no much in his favor this week

Craig Stadler to miss the cut +105 [3 units]
Scherrer may be out of form, but he could still give Stadler a five-shot start! The Walrus has missed six of seven cuts on the PGA Tour this year and in the event he did play at the weekend, the AT&T Pebble Beach, he finished 55th. Looks very good to repeat last year's missed cut

Grant Waite to miss the cut +115
Comes into the event off back-to-back missed cuts and he has an extremely poor career record in Majors: just two cuts made from nine starts and has a record of 0 for 1 at the Masters

Duffy Waldorf to miss the cut +145
Has a decent record in this event, but that dates from 1993 to 1997 only. Has only been invited back once since (last year) and missed the cut. Not in the best of form either, having missed four cuts in his last six events

All cut bets @ Centrebet

Highest round to be over 90.5 -140 @ Carib [2 units]
Have it from a source at Augusta yesterday that Doug Ford was hitting the ball no further than 125 yards and on a damp course he will struggle to better last year's 94. The signs of ageing are apparent from the 78-year-old's Augusta scores: since 1985 when he shot 76, his scores has showed an almost uniform increase every single year up to last year's 94. Given that he has stated in the press that he intends to play the entire round, the main danger to this play should be averted

Will post 1st round plays in the morning when the weather conditions are known.
 

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Stan I think you will definately win the Ford wager IF he completes round.Not sure though at 78 I would lay -140 that he won't pass to the Masters in the sky before finishing round
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There are 3 others that have been flirting with high 80's also though and odds are good one of them may spit the bit also and fire a huge #.
Off to take a look at these miss the cut props.They look inviting!
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Drat 5dimes is all I have for missed cuts and none that I was really favoring.
Really liking your May-Duffy-Mize and Stadler,Stan.
5dimes did have one cut prop I was looking for and that being Franco.However line was no where I thought they would have it considering he hadn't finished worse than 7th here.However they have him @ +160,same odds as Braddeley bout where he deserves to be.Believe these books have brought in some outside linesmakers this week.

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Anders,

You freak me out.

I am a Kiwi as well (living in Aussie now) and my outright plays are:

Singh 15-1
Love 16-1
Furyk 40-1
Langer 67-1
Flesch 100-1

Look familiar ??????

Other picks are:

Monty 5-1 Top European
Langer 12-1 Top European
Franco 22-1 Top ROW
Allenby 3-1 Top Australian

These prices are available at different Aussie books.
www.sportstab.com.au www.tabq.com.au www.centrebet.com.au www.sportodds.com.au

All these books are very secure as everything is tightly regulated by the Australian government. I often find these books have Golf odds which vary slightly from the overseas markets (although not so much this week).

16-1 might be 20-1
20-1 might be 25-1
50-1 might be 60-1 etc

Any additional value you can scrape has to help.

Good luck to all.
 

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Cartman - that's just too bizarre
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But it look's like we could be in for some cash come Monday
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Can't beat that Down Under connection - where u from; and where are u now? And have you been following the Super 12 and NRL picks in the Off the Wall forum - we've got AFL tips coming up too!
 

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These are the matchups my book has. If you have had a positive experience betting golf, please respond with information on plays that you like. I do not handicap golf, I would like to place a couple wagers just for fun. I already placed Tiger at +200 against field, simply because I think he is motivated to get a the 4th Title in a row. Thanks for your input!

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J LEONARD + 145 S GARCIA -165
D DUVAL + 105 E ELS -125
N PRICE -115 J FURYK -105
F COUPLES + 140 T LEHMAN -160
L ROBERTS + 125 JM OLAZABAL -145
T WOODS + 200 ALL OTHERS -230
C MONTGOMERIE -125 J PARNEVIK + 105
D LOVE III + 100 P MICKELSON -120
J NICKLAUS + 140 N BEGAY -160
V SINGH + 230 T WOODS -270
N FALDO + 148 G NORMAN -168
M CALCAVECCHIA -130 H SUTTON + 110
T WOODS -285 D LOVE III + 245
JM OLAZABAL + 100 C MONTGOMERY -120
M CALCAVECCHIA -125 F COUPLES + 105
L JANZEN -105 J PARNEVIK -115
I WOOSNAN -130 N FALDO + 110
J FURYK + 110 T LEHMAN -130
B FAXON -105 S CINK -115
C PERRY + 120 N PRICE -140
M WEIR -140 S GARCIA + 120
B LANGER -125 J HUSTON + 105
D TOMS -110 P AZINGER -110
 

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Stan & Ian....They say that, after the tuesday rain, they can get the greens as dry as they want with the new system they have...What do you think of the over/under of 64 1/2 ???

Thanks
 

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Cartman

Just checked out the sites you mentioned and opened a small account with SportOdds.

They have several three-somes which look interesting. Just dont know how US Dollars translate to Aussie $.

Thanks for the info.
 

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you guys should be opening accounts in Australia like mad given our banana republic dollar currently
 

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Ice,
1AUD is currently a depressing 48.30c in greenback, or something close. Simply awful, was only 18 months ago or so that it was over 70c...

SportOdds are a decent book, but are what we'd class as the Intertops of Australia - generally small limits, big range, catering for the 'recreational' punter.
 
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