Rcxslam said:
I agree - it will be interesting to see how these two teams have progressed offensively and defensively. The OSU game for Texas is what im using as a reference point for comparing these two teams head to head.
USC over Texas (detailed analysis)
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I agree - it will be interesting to see how these two teams have progressed offensively and defensively. The OSU game for Texas is what im using as a reference point for comparing these two teams head to head.
ThrowinPicks said:
OSU D back in week 2 was & still is better than USC D right now. End of Story.
ThrowinPicks said:
u can do that for some games...but I don't think that applies hear...when you are dealin with REALLY good teams as ALL 3 of them are, its all about how well they match up with each other personel wise imo....also give an edge to Carroll having all this time to gameplan for VY....
hopefully USC can pull out the win and cover...but don't think its a blowout as Scott predicts...
3 Seconds said:
I agree and i also think that the 74th pass defense can exploited more so by a versatile intelligent quarterback than a pocket passer.
ststrl said:
Screw the PAC 10.
Seriously though I applaud Scott for his insights & his passion for USC. His arguements are legit, skewed IMO, but legit.
I tried to do the same thing with my counter points in a PRO Texas fashion.
It's game played by 17-22 year old KIDS. We can debate back & forth all we want & both make valid, concise & concievable arguements to how it will unfold, but none us can KNOW what will happen until it happens, that is unless there is a true visionary amoung us actually reading this thread.
Rcxslam said:
Wasnt that the ? asked here:
By ThrowinPicks:
Quick question -
Considering the playing environment as well (at the shoe or at the Rose bowl), do you think the SC defense is a better opposition for the Texas offense as Ohio State was back at the beginning of the season?
That is what I was intending to trying to give an answer to, if I misunderstood the question sorry.
Dice34 said:
SOLID but not great range. He is money inside 35. He is average at best outside of 35. He def. can't kick over 45 yards. USC goes for TD's and not FG's. Puts a lot of pressure on D and USC offense knows it is 4 down territory.
It is his first year playing at USC but who knows if he could make pressure kick. I would be very confident in him making a FG inside 35 though. Outside of 35 I lean towards a MISS.
Against FSU in close 1h (in fact USC losing) he made 2 FG's. So that was good.
DerekNJND said:
Thanks for nice words.
This is why I put 5x more $$$ on USC to win it all vs USC to go undefeated. Only now do I wish I bet it all on USC going undefeated! :mj07:
When ND scored that go ahead TD, I was a little nervous. I new ND scored too quickly and left too much time on the clock. Told all the Irish fans around me and they agreed. (smart fans) USC just needed a FG to tie.
When ND sacked Leinart on 2nd and 10 for big loss, I was NERVOUS! That is when losing became REAL probability. I started having serious doubts. I was happy USC got half yards back on 3rd down. Now I knew USC had a 30-40% prob. of completing 4th down.
On that 4th down it was scary and place was damn loud it became so surreal when USC caught the 1st down. SILENCE! Amazing feeling.
3 Seconds said:Screw the PAC 10.
Seriously though I applaud Scott for his insights & his passion for USC. His arguements are legit, skewed IMO, but legit.
I tried to do the same thing with my counter points in a PRO Texas fashion.
It's game played by 17-22 year old KIDS. We can debate back & forth all we want & both make valid, concise & concievable arguements to how it will unfold, but none us can KNOW what will happen until it happens, that is unless there is a true visionary amoung us actually reading this thread.
u bring up good pts...the game still has to be played by young kids...and one crucial messed up call by the refs, which would not be surprising...can change the entire game....
the ball bounces in funny ways sometimes also....
gl all I'm outs till gametime...
Sure Osus d was better than and now but the USC offense is far better than osu's was and is now.
3 Seconds said:
And the scary part is so many people on the UNDER tonight! OSU and UT put up 50 points, dont see how this one doesnt get to 70! Personally, dont like overs when its that high, but that doesnt mean I'm in line to bet the UNDER either!!
Dice34 said:
You might be right. USC especially beginning of year were slow starters on offense. Texas at times seemed to be slow starters on offense as well. I could see this scenario playing out. Especially if both teams have jitters. (false starts and dropped passes etc.) Might take a while for both teams to settle in. More so for Texas.
The only thing is USC is so experienced across the board on offense. Its crazy and unfair. Plus Leinart has been awesome in all these bowl practices. Gives me confidence in USC's offense to start game on fire.
I was just talkin to a buddy of mine who raised an interesting angle
There is the theory of complacency in big bowl games, no matter if its for a national title or not! Sometimes 1 loss or undefeated teams perform poorly because they finally got "over the hump". Maybe some let down for Texas, after years of trying just to "get in" the national title game!? Who knows! The finally got their undefeated season, and maybe thats good enough?
I think ND's playcalling on Monday reflected some complacency! They didnt really start attacking till they were down 2 scores! Almost got the feeling that just making it to the BCS, and going 9-3 in his first season was enough for Weis and company. Of course nobody comes out and says that, but after a 6-6 campaign, of course the NECESSITY of a win in that game was not met with the urgency of a winning season!
That kinda supports my earlier theory, that I think TEXAS will be the team to come out slow tonight. Its just too predictable that USC comes out slow and then throttles texas in the 2nd half, I think we see soemthing different! I think USC gets all over them but TEXAS has the combination of balance and explosiveness that FEW TEAMS HAVE to actually mount a comeback. In addition, Texas has a DEFENSE that none of the teams USC struggled against has. With a defense, Texas can actually MOUNT a comeback because you need stops!!
There is the theory of complacency in big bowl games, no matter if its for a national title or not! Sometimes 1 loss or undefeated teams perform poorly because they finally got "over the hump". Maybe some let down for Texas, after years of trying just to "get in" the national title game!? Who knows! The finally got their undefeated season, and maybe thats good enough?
I think ND's playcalling on Monday reflected some complacency! They didnt really start attacking till they were down 2 scores! Almost got the feeling that just making it to the BCS, and going 9-3 in his first season was enough for Weis and company. Of course nobody comes out and says that, but after a 6-6 campaign, of course the NECESSITY of a win in that game was not met with the urgency of a winning season!
That kinda supports my earlier theory, that I think TEXAS will be the team to come out slow tonight. Its just too predictable that USC comes out slow and then throttles texas in the 2nd half, I think we see soemthing different! I think USC gets all over them but TEXAS has the combination of balance and explosiveness that FEW TEAMS HAVE to actually mount a comeback. In addition, Texas has a DEFENSE that none of the teams USC struggled against has. With a defense, Texas can actually MOUNT a comeback because you need stops!!
Scott, I must say i admire your analysis. You bring alot of amazing points to the table, however i am going against you tonight. Vince Young will win this game. Either way, good luck tonight!!!!!!! :clap:
ThrowinPicks said:
When you run more than you pass, and you have the #5 passing offense in college football, you are NOT attacking. They ran more run plays than pass until they were down 2 scores. Go look it up!
one play does not equal attacking! That is a common good offensive strategy to throw deep on play one. It does NOT indicate the overall game plan. They also ran 4 straight run plays from inside the 15, and turned it over 5 minutes later. Is THAT attacking too?
How many times did they go deep after that play? twice the whole game? Yeah, that was really the game plan bro. You dont watch much football if you didnt recognize that first play as a very common strategy, even of teams with NO offenses!
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So i guess since th RB had 3 touchdowns rushing - they shouldve thrown more....
Sounds like a solid strategy... Go away from whats working....
I bet oregon couldve "attacked" better.
Sounds like a solid strategy... Go away from whats working....
I bet oregon couldve "attacked" better.
