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I'm just glad it wasn't a cop doing it or you would post how it's on the cops and not on her.
Actually I'm more curious as to how a teenage black kid can show more restraint and try to de-escalate a situation better than a professionally trained officer? I'm also curious if it even occurred to you the noticeable difference in tone from the two black women from the two incidents. I would say this latest one is a woman that is being threatening and intimidating, but I'm sure that is all lost on you.
You know what I'm glad of Saint? You posting in this thread so I could specifically point out directly to you how right I am and was all along and how fucking wrong you have been in every instance. The cop in McKinney didn't get fucked and lose his job because he was unfairly judged as you assert. He abused his authority and should be in jail.
Hey, I noticed he had on some nice shoes. He must be one of those colored welfare people that came in and had some work done by you and all you got paid for is what your charged to medicare. Fucking scumbag lazy no job having thug amIright!?
 

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Hey, I noticed he had on some nice shoes. He must be one of those colored welfare people that came in and had some work done by you and all you got paid for is what your charged to medicare. Fucking scumbag lazy no job having thug amIright!?

Ward, I think you were a little too hard on the beaver.
 

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Actually I'm more curious as to how a teenage black kid can show more restraint and try to de-escalate a situation better than a professionally trained officer? I'm also curious if it even occurred to you the noticeable difference in tone from the two black women from the two incidents.



Maybe it has to do with cops being challenged day in day out by disrespectful people (white, black, orange, green, purple) with no regards to laws and being civil .....and then we see the teenage black kid being civil and respectful until being pushed over the edge.....:shrug:
 

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I think he was excessive but I believe he would be innocent if this went to trial because he was defending himself from assault.
 

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Maybe it has to do with cops being challenged day in day out by disrespectful people (white, black, orange, green, purple) with no regards to laws and being civil .....and then we see the teenage black kid being civil and respectful until being pushed over the edge.....:shrug:

You know sports, I have heard similar response to this before and my answer to it is always the same. Police officers are not the only professionals that gave to make split second decisions and it's not even close to something they're confronted with every day. What you're alleging is not even remotely true. As a matter of fact, a young man named Cory Lane is on the force for fort worth and has been for a few years. He's the son of a good friend of mine. I asked him how many times he's been in a high pressure situation where he felt like he was in danger of bodily harm. His answer was never. When asked if people treat him with malice or disrespect, he said one time. It was a wealthy drunk white man. When asked if he had met anyone that has been in a firefight or discharged his weapon, his answer was no. So in reality, police officers are not all Jack Bauer. More like Barney Miller.

So we can see that officers are not faced with life and death situations everyday. They do not risk their lives everyday nearly to the extent of firemen or marines. They are not in a position where every decision they make has life and death implications such as a pilot, air traffic controller, trauma surgeon, ER nurse, astronaut, crab boat captains, race car drivers, and so on. They are extensively trained, however, to do exactly that. Police are expected to perform their job according to training regardless if a 14 year old girl isn't giving you the respect you think you deserve. Especially when you're the only one breaking the law. That's what happened sports. It's right there on video. He's no longer an officer because he failed at his job and his duties, miserably. Dismissing his unlawful actions and disregarding the crime of assault committed against a teen simply because "he's got a tough job and may have been under some stress because those kids weren't listening" is incredibly absurd to me. There is absolutely no way his actions would have gone unpunished if he were not a cop. Police are citizens first. They are never above the law and they are supposed to uphold the law, not break it at will. You may argue that point all you want, but the facts are the facts. There were 11 other cops there as well and he was the only one on the entire video breaking the law in any way, which is exactly why he is the only one being punished. Regardless of his aggravation level, not one single citizen can walk into court and say, "sorry judge I face planted a 14 year old non-threatening girl because when I was running around cursing and yelling trying to illegally detain some black only teenagers, this one d disrespected me by talking back. So I completely disregarded my one and only charge as a law enforcement officer and guardian of the civil liberties and rights of the nation's citizens to lawfully serve and protect the citizens, and body slammed the mouthy bitch", and neither can a cop. Period. There is no arguing that point. He broke the law and it wasn't because he just made a series of life and death decisions in a shootout that had clouded his judgement.

I honestly think you might be thinking in trying to indict all law enforcement. I am most definitely not. What I am saying is they aren't above the law. I don't have to comply with an irate officer that is screaming an unlawful order at me. If an officer asks me for ID, I don't just hand it over. I exercise my rights to deny it. Those are my rights and I'm sorry if some think that makes me some sort of rabble rouser, but I'm not ever going to readily surrender my rights just because others would. One thing I do know, you keep forfeiting your rights, sooner or later you'll lose them altogether.
 

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I think he was excessive but I believe he would be innocent if this went to trial because he was defending himself from assault.
No he was not defending himself. She had her back to him when he first attacked her. Then she was sitting on the ground crying for her mother when he grabbed her by the hair and slammed her again into the pavement. There is a video that really shows exactly that. You can also see where he approaches her the second time and grabs her hair while his weapon is still unholstered and scans and curses in her ear, further frightening and distressing the girl, who is still a minor for for more years mind you. This is a scared 90 pound teen in a bikini crying for her mom and you honestly believe that twelve jurors would watch that video and believe a complete bullshit self defense claim? Shit, he'd probably, and hopefully, get extra time for trying to lie about that bullshit. Watch the video comfy. She was walking away when he went after her. What he did was illegal on all levels and in every single scenario. Even if they were all chanting Casebolt sucks, you cannot physically assault a teen for hurting your feelings.

Also, I have posted the law as it pertains to a move along order. Walking too slow or taking back are not grounds for arrest.

However, you did say that you believe he would be found innocent and you're certainly entitled to believe whatever you so desire. I respect your opinion, I just don't share it brother. He would have been found guilty in my opinion.

I appreciate your and sports' input as always though.
 

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No he was not defending himself. She had her back to him when he first attacked her. Then she was sitting on the ground crying for her mother when he grabbed her by the hair and slammed her again into the pavement. There is a video that really shows exactly that. You can also see where he approaches her the second time and grabs her hair while his weapon is still unholstered and scans and curses in her ear, further frightening and distressing the girl, who is still a minor for for more years mind you. This is a scared 90 pound teen in a bikini crying for her mom and you honestly believe that twelve jurors would watch that video and believe a complete bullshit self defense claim? Shit, he'd probably, and hopefully, get extra time for trying to lie about that bullshit. Watch the video comfy. She was walking away when he went after her. What he did was illegal on all levels and in every single scenario. Even if they were all chanting Casebolt sucks, you cannot physically assault a teen for hurting your feelings.

Also, I have posted the law as it pertains to a move along order. Walking too slow or taking back are not grounds for arrest.

However, you did say that you believe he would be found innocent and you're certainly entitled to believe whatever you so desire. I respect your opinion, I just don't share it brother. He would have been found guilty in my opinion.

I appreciate your and sports' input as always though.


I was talking about the school kids. That cop was completely mental.
 

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I was talking about the school kids. That cop was completely mental.
Right on. I thought the kid did well to control himself as long as he did. I do wonder what the teacher was doing. You know what bothered me the most about that video? How everyone just stood there and let it go on. It's scary how bad our society has become with good samaritanism.
 

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Right on. I thought the kid did well to control himself as long as he did. I do wonder what the teacher was doing. You know what bothered me the most about that video? How everyone just stood there and let it go on. It's scary how bad our society has become with good samaritanism.

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I knew that. FDC needs to calm down.
Whatthefuckever.

I have to tell you though, you're really getting some fantastic mileage out of the calm down comment. I commend you on not only being awake after 615p but showing such incredible restraint and only sprinkling the calm down in here and there. It totally makes me curse every time you do it. Not only that but it's your baby too. You came up with it and you had the confidence to keep using it without confirmation of my dislike of it. I'm very impressed. Good on ya mate.
 

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You know sports, I have heard similar response to this before and my answer to it is always the same. Police officers are not the only professionals that gave to make split second decisions and it's not even close to something they're confronted with every day. What you're alleging is not even remotely true. As a matter of fact, a young man named Cory Lane is on the force for fort worth and has been for a few years. He's the son of a good friend of mine. I asked him how many times he's been in a high pressure situation where he felt like he was in danger of bodily harm. His answer was never. When asked if people treat him with malice or disrespect, he said one time. It was a wealthy drunk white man. When asked if he had met anyone that has been in a firefight or discharged his weapon, his answer was no. So in reality, police officers are not all Jack Bauer. More like Barney Miller.

So we can see that officers are not faced with life and death situations everyday. They do not risk their lives everyday nearly to the extent of firemen or marines. They are not in a position where every decision they make has life and death implications such as a pilot, air traffic controller, trauma surgeon, ER nurse, astronaut, crab boat captains, race car drivers, and so on. They are extensively trained, however, to do exactly that. Police are expected to perform their job according to training regardless if a 14 year old girl isn't giving you the respect you think you deserve. Especially when you're the only one breaking the law. That's what happened sports. It's right there on video. He's no longer an officer because he failed at his job and his duties, miserably. Dismissing his unlawful actions and disregarding the crime of assault committed against a teen simply because "he's got a tough job and may have been under some stress because those kids weren't listening" is incredibly absurd to me. There is absolutely no way his actions would have gone unpunished if he were not a cop. Police are citizens first. They are never above the law and they are supposed to uphold the law, not break it at will. You may argue that point all you want, but the facts are the facts. There were 11 other cops there as well and he was the only one on the entire video breaking the law in any way, which is exactly why he is the only one being punished. Regardless of his aggravation level, not one single citizen can walk into court and say, "sorry judge I face planted a 14 year old non-threatening girl because when I was running around cursing and yelling trying to illegally detain some black only teenagers, this one d disrespected me by talking back. So I completely disregarded my one and only charge as a law enforcement officer and guardian of the civil liberties and rights of the nation's citizens to lawfully serve and protect the citizens, and body slammed the mouthy bitch", and neither can a cop. Period. There is no arguing that point. He broke the law and it wasn't because he just made a series of life and death decisions in a shootout that had clouded his judgement.

I honestly think you might be thinking in trying to indict all law enforcement. I am most definitely not. What I am saying is they aren't above the law. I don't have to comply with an irate officer that is screaming an unlawful order at me. If an officer asks me for ID, I don't just hand it over. I exercise my rights to deny it. Those are my rights and I'm sorry if some think that makes me some sort of rabble rouser, but I'm not ever going to readily surrender my rights just because others would. One thing I do know, you keep forfeiting your rights, sooner or later you'll lose them altogether.



Haven't had my coffee yet, can you chop this down to a couple of sentences......Thanks......:0008
 

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Haven't had my coffee yet, can you chop this down to a couple of sentences......Thanks......:0008
Cops aren't faced with life and death decisions every day. Some never are. They aren't in an egregiously stressful job.
If they break the law, it's not a forgivable crime just because they're cops. They're expected to abide by the law they're sworn to uphold.
 

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Cops aren't faced with life and death decisions every day. Some never are. They aren't in an egregiously stressful job.
If they break the law, it's not a forgivable crime just because they're cops. They're expected to abide by the law they're sworn to uphold.


No, not all cops are faced with life or death decisions every day, never said they were...In the same token they also have no idea what they are walking into from call to call so there should be a level of stress is involved, how the officers handles that stress day to day is a different matter....If memory serves me correct the officer who went off his rocker in McKinney has just responded to two suicide calls, one a man blew his head off in front of his family/kids and another a girl threating to jump off a roof.....Did that justify his actions, no.....did it possibly play a factor in what happened, most likely...

I agree officers are expected to abide by the law but I also feel not every situation needs to be handled by termination.....McKinney Office made the right call in resigning.....
 

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No, not all cops are faced with life or death decisions every day, never said they were...In the same token they also have no idea what they are walking into from call to call so there should be a level of stress is involved, how the officers handles that stress day to day is a different matter....If memory serves me correct the officer who went off his rocker in McKinney has just responded to two suicide calls, one a man blew his head off in front of his family/kids and another a girl threating to jump off a roof.....Did that justify his actions, no.....did it possibly play a factor in what happened, most likely...

I agree officers are expected to abide by the law but I also feel not every situation needs to be handled by termination.....McKinney Office made the right call in resigning.....
Fair enough. Although I don't believe it was two suicide calls in the same day but I'm not sure and it's meaningless as one would be enough to be upsetting. Regardless of all that, my entire point on all of this and much of the other stuff recently that I've been vocal about is that I believe our country is on the precipice of some very serious social unrest the likes of which we haven't seen since the fifties and sixties. It's not just about color anymore. It's about accountability of the classes and such. There are people that say they love the country but bash the leader of it at every turn about every possible thing in an effort to make him look bad. That's not how the government is set up to run. There's no accountability for law enforcement, politicians, social services etc... We get plenty patriotic when someone attacks our trade center but it's only a short time until we are trying to blame our own leadership for it. Many citizens want to increase military actions abroad yet the minute we do it they'll start complaining about the debt and cost if it. We accept murder and death as the price of freedom. It's insane and its getting worse everyday. We refuse to embrace any kind of change because we're a society of lethargy and status quo. There are people that still want to return to old failed policies, not because they remember how effective or ineffective it was back then but because it's an easy option to choose. People willingly give up their rights and freedoms. People want to close the borders but they don't want to spend the money required to do it. It's nuts. It's fine though. I'll be dead in 30 years or so, what do i give a fuck right?
 

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Fair enough. Although I don't believe it was two suicide calls in the same day but I'm not sure and it's meaningless as one would be enough to be upsetting.



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Maybe his lawyer is fabricating what happened that day in the video above, but clearly she went on Nation TV stating these facts as she believes.....I'm sure the Police Records will show one way or another......Yes this officer went over the top that day and he's paid the price ......I get it, you and many others want more justice, so be it...but at some point you and the rest that feel this way to find a place to put this to rest and move on and find a common ground so we can live together as one.....:0008
 
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