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Maybe his lawyer is fabricating what happened that day in the video above, but clearly she went on Nation TV stating these facts as she believes.....I'm sure the Police Records will show one way or another......Yes this officer went over the top that day and he's paid the price ......I get it, you and many others want more justice, so be it...but at some point you and the rest that feel this way to find a place to put this to rest and move on and find a common ground so we can live together as one.....:0008

Calm down, I said "fair enough". I'm not calling for more justice at all. I'm calling for less tolerance of Law enforcement improprieties simply because they have a badge. I'm saying that this should never have been an argument. My discontent lies with those that excused his actions or even applauded them without regard to right or wrong. Those that wantonly ignored the facts that are right there in front of then choosing instead to look for some small sliver of supposition to hang on the victim. Not saying that was you either, so remain calm.

There are people that tried to normalize his actions for reasons unknown to me. Some unwittingly maybe, but not all. That's a serious problem in our country. A very serious problem. Those that say, just do what you're told and you won't have that problem are so far removed from it that they're advocating that citizens willingly give up their constitutional rights and submit to a police state type justice system. I'm sure that many will defend themselves, maybe not now that I've pointed it out, but that's not what made this country what it is today. I don't have to submit to harassment or brutality, I don't have to hand over my i.d., I don't have to move along just because someone doesn't like my skin color, and I certainly don't have "sit my fucking ass on the ground live I told you to" just so a cop can bastardize his authority. Corrupt police work is not good police work. He, Casebolt, failed miserably at his job in the video from start to finish. Every single thing he did was wrong. He didn't arrive on the scene and investigate the complaint at all. He never asked what was going on, he didn't try to control a situation, he created a situation. He did a shitty job and now he's gone. That's it.


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Calm down, I said "fair enough". I'm not calling for more justice at all. I'm calling for less tolerance of Law enforcement improprieties simply because they have a badge. I'm saying that this should never have been an argument. My discontent lies with those that excused his actions or even applauded them without regard to right or wrong. Those that wantonly ignored the facts that are right there in front of then choosing instead to look for some small sliver of supposition to hang on the victim. Not saying that was you either, so remain calm.

There are people that tried to normalize his actions for reasons unknown to me. Some unwittingly maybe, but not all. That's a serious problem in our country. A very serious problem. Those that say, just do what you're told and you won't have that problem are so far removed from it that they're advocating that citizens willingly give up their constitutional rights and submit to a police state type justice system. I'm sure that many will defend themselves, maybe not now that I've pointed it out, but that's not what made this country what it is today. I don't have to submit to harassment or brutality, I don't have to hand over my i.d., I don't have to move along just because someone doesn't like my skin color, and I certainly don't have "sit my fucking ass on the ground live I told you to" just so a cop can bastardize his authority. Corrupt police work is not good police work. He, Casebolt, failed miserably at his job in the video from start to finish. Every single thing he did was wrong. He didn't arrive on the scene and investigate the complaint at all. He never asked what was going on, he didn't try to control a situation, he created a situation. He did a shitty job and now he's gone. That's it.


Hope this helps,
FDC




I'm probably the calmest person in this conversation......:lol:
 

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You know sports, I have heard similar response to this before and my answer to it is always the same. Police officers are not the only professionals that gave to make split second decisions and it's not even close to something they're confronted with every day. What you're alleging is not even remotely true. As a matter of fact, a young man named Cory Lane is on the force for fort worth and has been for a few years. He's the son of a good friend of mine. I asked him how many times he's been in a high pressure situation where he felt like he was in danger of bodily harm. His answer was never. When asked if people treat him with malice or disrespect, he said one time. It was a wealthy drunk white man. When asked if he had met anyone that has been in a firefight or discharged his weapon, his answer was no. So in reality, police officers are not all Jack Bauer. More like Barney Miller.

So we can see that officers are not faced with life and death situations everyday. They do not risk their lives everyday nearly to the extent of firemen or marines. They are not in a position where every decision they make has life and death implications such as a pilot, air traffic controller, trauma surgeon, ER nurse, astronaut, crab boat captains, race car drivers, and so on. They are extensively trained, however, to do exactly that. Police are expected to perform their job according to training regardless if a 14 year old girl isn't giving you the respect you think you deserve. Especially when you're the only one breaking the law. That's what happened sports. It's right there on video. He's no longer an officer because he failed at his job and his duties, miserably. Dismissing his unlawful actions and disregarding the crime of assault committed against a teen simply because "he's got a tough job and may have been under some stress because those kids weren't listening" is incredibly absurd to me. There is absolutely no way his actions would have gone unpunished if he were not a cop. Police are citizens first. They are never above the law and they are supposed to uphold the law, not break it at will. You may argue that point all you want, but the facts are the facts. There were 11 other cops there as well and he was the only one on the entire video breaking the law in any way, which is exactly why he is the only one being punished. Regardless of his aggravation level, not one single citizen can walk into court and say, "sorry judge I face planted a 14 year old non-threatening girl because when I was running around cursing and yelling trying to illegally detain some black only teenagers, this one d disrespected me by talking back. So I completely disregarded my one and only charge as a law enforcement officer and guardian of the civil liberties and rights of the nation's citizens to lawfully serve and protect the citizens, and body slammed the mouthy bitch", and neither can a cop. Period. There is no arguing that point. He broke the law and it wasn't because he just made a series of life and death decisions in a shootout that had clouded his judgement.

I honestly think you might be thinking in trying to indict all law enforcement. I am most definitely not. What I am saying is they aren't above the law. I don't have to comply with an irate officer that is screaming an unlawful order at me. If an officer asks me for ID, I don't just hand it over. I exercise my rights to deny it. Those are my rights and I'm sorry if some think that makes me some sort of rabble rouser, but I'm not ever going to readily surrender my rights just because others would. One thing I do know, you keep forfeiting your rights, sooner or later you'll lose them altogether.

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I'm calmer than you are.

The way FDC gets riled up about Internet conversations, feeling he has to be right about every topic, I would have hated to see what would have happened that day in McKinney if he were the police officer. He wouldn't have just drawn his gun he would have fired off many rounds......similarities somewhere in personality.

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So we can see that officers are not faced with life and death situations every day. They do not risk their lives everyday nearly to the extent of firemen or marines.

In that same light, firemen aren't hosing down fires every day, and very infrequently do they have to risk their lives, either.

I'm not even getting into an argument for the cooks at Camp Pendleton.
 

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The way FDC gets riled up about Internet conversations, feeling he has to be right about every topic, I would have hated to see what would have happened that day in McKinney if he were the police officer. He wouldn't have just drawn his gun he would have fired off many rounds......similarities somewhere in personality.

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Yes, you're extensive research into my posts on this site certainly make you a respectable authority on how I would handle a pool party with 75 teenagers.
What's even more impressive is your astoundingly quick, yet I'm sure entirely accurate, assessment of officer Casbolt's personality from a two minute video. So much so that you're able to confidently assert that he and I would be kindred spirits if associated with each other.
What I question is how you establish a nexus between an individual's overstated stance via Internet debate on the unreasonably violent actions of a police officer and the same individual being even more violent and unreasonable if presented with the same situation in which he is advocating for the opposite.
I mean I don't think the people from whale wars would be harpooning minkies if the Japanese didn't show up. Just seems a bit preposterous to me, but hey you're the expert in me right?


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Yes, you're extensive research into my posts on this site certainly make you a respectable authority on how I would handle a pool party with 75 teenagers.
What's even more impressive is your astoundingly quick, yet I'm sure entirely accurate, assessment of officer Casbolt's personality from a two minute video. So much so that you're able to confidently assert that he and I would be kindred spirits if associated with each other.
What I question is how you establish a nexus between an individual's overstated stance via Internet debate on the unreasonably violent actions of a police officer and the same individual being even more violent and unreasonable if presented with the same situation in which he is advocating for the opposite.
I mean I don't think the people from whale wars would be harpooning minkies if the Japanese didn't show up. Just seems a bit preposterous to me, but hey you're the expert in me right?


Hope this helps,
FDC



The end result is we both/all (most) want relations to move forward.....how that happens, who knows....:0008
 

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You might want to re-read what I said chief. Have someone explain it to you if need be.

In one video the girl physically assaults the boy. The boy walks away and SHE pursues and attacks him. I said she is to blame. In another unrelated video, specifically the McKinney pool video, the girl walks away and the OFFICER pursues and attacks the girl. I said the officer was to blame.
Saint, and apparently you, feel my statements regarding fault in those two separate incidences somehow translates into me saying a policeman should allow himself to be assaulted because if he reacts, I will blame him. Somehow the two of you came to this conclusion with some insane process void of any logic, reason, or research into my expressly overstated stance on the subject.
I often wondered why you never could answer a question sensibly or simply avoid answering them altogether. You truly have no common sense. Good thing you didn't grow up in a poor urban area with all those great schools and such that would have "given you the same opportunity as everyone else", you would probably be up shits Creek with your limited learning skills. Dodged a bullet there huh?


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FDC
 

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You might want to re-read what I said chief. Have someone explain it to you if need be.

In one video the girl physically assaults the boy. The boy walks away and SHE pursues and attacks him. I said she is to blame. In another unrelated video, specifically the McKinney pool video, the girl walks away and the OFFICER pursues and attacks the girl. I said the officer was to blame.
Saint, and apparently you, feel my statements regarding fault in those two separate incidences somehow translates into me saying a policeman should allow himself to be assaulted because if he reacts, I will blame him. Somehow the two of you came to this conclusion with some insane process void of any logic, reason, or research into my expressly overstated stance on the subject.
I often wondered why you never could answer a question sensibly or simply avoid answering them altogether. You truly have no common sense. Good thing you didn't grow up in a poor urban area with all those great schools and such that would have "given you the same opportunity as everyone else", you would probably be up shits Creek with your limited learning skills. Dodged a bullet there huh?


Hope this helps,
FDC

wow, You couldn't be more wrong, sounds like to me you are describing yourself not the other two posters
 
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