WEC 47 Bowles vs Cruz 3/6/10

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MMA Record (since UFC 58)
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Prop Bet 31-33
Fighter vs. Fighter 182-280
Parlays 87-123

+26.68 Joe Rogans


Jens Pulver beat Javier Vazquez $2.25 (+125) *1.5 Joe Rogans

Jens Pulver beat Javier Vazquez $2.70 (+170) *1.5 Joe Rogans

Bart Palaszewski beat Karen Darabedyan $3.05 (+205) *1 Joe Rogan
 
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looking at parlays with these fighters...


***garcia(can`t believe i`m using this one dimensional stiff)....but roop ain`t much...

*1/2?*torres...respect the munchkin,but the height is a real problem...worried a bit about benavidez` quicks...just can`t see this quality of fighter losing again...he lost to bowles on a fluke,imo...he had bowles on the way out and got careless...but,if he lets benavides get inside his length and put him on his back,who knows...that would be incredibly stupid in a 3 round fight and signal the end of torres as a dominant fighter in mma...benavidesz had problems with cruz` height....

would have made this a higher priority,but,something about this one makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up...torres was showing a little give prior to the bowles loss....as the fight grows closer,i may consider a hedge...

*lamas
*mendes
*karen:)lol: ..i`ve read his brother sally is even better)
*paixao
1/2*vasquez(thinking more along the lines of betting against pulver than on vasquez....2 split losses to davis and taurocevisius leads me to believe vasquez has enough...both those guys are much better than pulver at this stage in their careers(imo)...but again,puncher`s chance...


small potatoes....bigger fish to fry down the road..
 
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Vasquez was considered a real talent ages ago but he has had bad knee injuries and was forced to retire after his win over Emerson for over 3 years but decided to give it a go . Won 2 fights and then had 20 monthes layoff again cuz of the problems with his knees . Pulver keeps looking worse and worse every time he fights . Josh Grispi was - 240 over him and Grispi is nowhere near Vasquez as far as grappling goes , yet he subbed Pulver in 33 seconds :mj07:
Even if Vasquez doesn't win it's pretty weird how Grispi was - 240 over Pulver but Vasquez opened up at - 110 .
 
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Vasquez was considered a real talent ages ago but he has had bad knee injuries and was forced to retire after his win over Emerson for over 3 years but decided to give it a go . Won 2 fights and then had 20 monthes layoff again cuz of the problems with his knees . Pulver keeps looking worse and worse every time he fights . Josh Grispi was - 240 over him and Grispi is nowhere near Vasquez as far as grappling goes , yet he subbed Pulver in 33 seconds :mj07:
Even if Vasquez doesn't win it's pretty weird how Grispi was - 240 over Pulver but Vasquez opened up at - 110 .
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vazquez` stand-up is non-existent...and he lunges in for takedowns fairly haphazardly...his fight with emerson was a mess.....

i`m having real trouble finding a nice parlay partner that looks really strong to go with shitty garcia.....

hard to believe i like garcia vs anyone..the guy is so overrated...

may not make any serious picks on this card...was gonna use torres but it`s a 3 rounder...he`s so lanky...that can be an advantage..or a disadvantage(because of benevides` quickness)....

everybody loves jorgensen..but i`ve seen him fall asleep in fights...

personally,i think darabedyan is better than palazzewski...but bart has home court....:mj1:

good fan`s card...f-cked up betting card
 
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If Garcia doesn't put Roop away in the first this could get ugly , not betting a cent on Garcia anymore but not really worth betting on someone like Roop either .
Vasquez wasn't ever famous for his stand up , maybe his damaged knees slowed him down now on his takedowns and overall slickness on the ground but Pulver is looking so bad lately , very painful to watch . This one reminds me of Jim Miller vs Luwdig some weeks ago in the UFC .
 
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If Garcia doesn't put Roop away in the first this could get ugly , not betting a cent on Garcia anymore but not really worth betting on someone like Roop either .
Vasquez wasn't ever famous for his stand up , maybe his damaged knees slowed him down now on his takedowns and overall slickness on the ground but Pulver is looking so bad lately , very painful to watch . This one reminds me of Jim Miller vs Luwdig some weeks ago in the UFC .
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I agree.
After watching him last fight, I am not betting 1 cent on Garcia.

I think Vasquez beats Pulver, but I can't bet that one either.

Here are the guys that I think win:
Torres
Jorgensen
Darebedyan
Mendes
Lamas

I agree with you GW on Jorgensen falling asleep, but the guy he is fighting is a clown. I would be surprised to see him lose this one.

Mendes-Koch could be the best fight on the card. Two undefeated young guns. Both confident.

Weigh-In shots:
http://www.sherdog.com/pictures/event/Pictures-WEC-47-Weigh-ins-23059
 
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Here are the lines at my book - I'm heading out to umpire and will be back hopefully before kickoff

Anyone have the Benavides/Torres goes the distance line - I think that's something worthy of taking a shot at if the number looks good

UFC / MAA - MAA - WEC 47

Mar 07, 2010 01:00 LC Davis v Deividas Taurosevicius
LC Davis +115
Deividas Taurosevicius -149

Mar 07, 2010 01:00 Karen Darabedyan v Bart Palaszewski
Karen Darabedyan -238
Bart Palaszewski +170

Mar 07, 2010 01:00 Chad George v Scott Jorgensen
Chad George +330
Scott Jorgensen -500

Mar 07, 2010 01:00 Erik Koch v Chad Mendes
Erik Koch +185
Chad Mendes -250

Mar 07, 2010 01:00 Anthony Pettis v Danny Castillo
Anthony Pettis +140
Danny Castillo -188

Mar 07, 2010 01:00 George Roop v Leonard Garcia
George Roop +330
Leonard Garcia -500

Mar 07, 2010 01:00 Courtney Buck v Fredson Paixao
Courtney Buck +200
Fredson Paixao -278

Mar 07, 2010 01:00 Bendy Casimir v Ricardo Lamas
Bendy Casimir +185
Ricardo Lamas -250

Mar 07, 2010 04:50 Javier Vazquez v Jens Pulver
Javier Vazquez -190
Jens Pulver +145

Mar 07, 2010 05:10 Joseph Benavidez v Miguel Angel Torres
Joseph Benavidez +225
Miguel Angel Torres -300

Mar 07, 2010 05:40 Dominick Cruz v Brian Bowles
Dominick Cruz +185
Brian Bowles -250
 
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glad we all agree that garcia is shite....:142smilie ...i`ve railed on this one-trick pony since he got mad props for for taking the beating of a lifetime from huerta...don`t think i can ever remember a guy getting more credit for getting beaten,slapped and pissed on(in the same night) than garcia...it was truly ugly....

but we`re dealing with different levels of shite here,imo...i suspect they(wec) like garcia because it`s entertaining for some watching the train wreck(win or lose) that every garcia fight inevitably turns into....


that said,small parlay material...if that...i guess he could even lose to the stork.....

as i said,darabedyan impressed me vs mccullough...he`s a strong,tough guy with decent stand-up.....but if it`s close,zewski has homecourt...

parlay only card...decisions...decisions
 
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Akihiro Gono + Marlon Sandro + Yoshihiro Nakao + whoever seems like a good deal but obviously wrong thread :mj07:
 
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MMA Record (since UFC 58)
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Prop Bet 31-33
Fighter vs. Fighter 182-280
Parlays 87-123

+26.68 Joe Rogans


Jens Pulver beat Javier Vazquez $2.25 (+125) *1.5 Joe Rogans

Jens Pulver beat Javier Vazquez $2.70 (+170) *1.5 Joe Rogans

Bart Palaszewski beat Karen Darabedyan $3.05 (+205) *1 Joe Rogan

Chad George beat Scott Jorgensen $5.75 (+475) *half Joe Rogan

Erik Koch beat Chad Mendes $3.40 (+240) *1 Joe Rogan

Anthony Pettis beat Danny Castillo $2.25 (+125) *1.5 Joe Rogans

Courtney Buck beat Fredson Paixao $3.50 (+250) *1 Joe Rogan

Parlay
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Ricardo Lamas
Miguel Torres

odds = $1.83 (-120) *3 Joe Rogans
 
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Roop 2-0 rounds up on Garcia , most likely tho it could be 1-1 ... come on Roop , do it son :mj07:
 
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