Will they find the plane this weekend?

[gardenweasel]

lumi?

lumi...i was kidding...i love ya,dude....:0074

seriously,though.....if...if that course change happened 12 minutes before the final contact with air traffic control,why wouldn`t they ask,"hey!....did you guys just change course on us?...wth is happening!!?"......

i have to think that the ground control folks can track the flight path also......at least until everything went dead(or was turned off).....

conjecture on my part...maybe i`m way off here...

 

[airportis]

arguing over what happened to this plane is fucking retarded. no point getting in a pissing contest trying to prove your own theory. there surely are people with FAR more knowledge and experience with the topic at hand who are looking into this and in the loop and even they havent found a solution yet.

all anyone has is a complete guess. I am sure nobody here is going to point out anything that the people who actually know their shit and know whats going on and who are doing the investigating/searching have not already considered.

 

[Lumi]

lumi?

In the Army our MOS, at the time was 31C
That designator has changed
Upon graduation we were given (A) Alpha at the end
So I was a 31CA. Being that I was an NCO
Numerals follow your MOS 31C20 for E5, 30 for E6 and so on..
The System Techs Were 71B and 74 B
The operators were cross trained on maintainence
But Maintainance was not trained for our job
But these Techs were computer gurus
They knew how to operate the system,
They just could not be left alone with it
These guys can reprogram the system
Which they did
We used them when we wanted to cloak RFIDs
On the battlefield on to ghost other machines

 

[fatdaddycool]

Are you really that fucking stupid? Holy shit. WHat part of, "my friend did NOT say a pilot went into the bay to turn off the Acars, and that the media was reporting that a pilot or someone more than likely did," did you NOT understand? Jesus fucking Christ. Read and comprehend.

We know the plane is programmed to do what it does. We also know it was programmed by someone on the plane to make the hard left turn.The media is going by experts who have said the plane was programmed by the flight computer by someone on the plane 12 minutes before the sign off. Case of fire fucking closed. He had 12 minutes to report a problem and said nothing. And the guy who trains pilots on a simulator for Boeing said it is fairly easy to program the turn, but it's not just a simple click.. They aren't making shit up.

You can go on and on with your theory, and most experts so far have said there more than likely was not a fire. Including my friend, including the pilot on CNN who flies the 777's commercially. Too many flaws in the theory. But let's all believe you because you "work" on them. I'm done arguing with you because I'm sick of reading your bullshit. You love listening to yourself talk way too much.....

My personal thoughts are carbon monoxide poisoning or smoke inhalation. You stated that someone went into the E/E bay to disable the ACARS, you were wrong. You said that a fire or smoke in the cabin theory was not plausible, you are wrong. You can't argue with me, not because of my narcissistic tendencies, but because you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. I did misread that you stated your friend did not state that. My apologies. I also never ever ever said it was just one click. I said you had to enter the heading with a turn of the knob. Actually you pull the knob out, turn it to the heading and push it in and voila, turning aircraft. Yes they are making shit up. Trust me. They are over analyzing this crap to the point it is misleading the public. They are all over the place.

 

[Lumi]

FDC
Did you work for Raytheon ?

 

[LuvThemDogs]

arguing over what happened to this plane is fucking retarded. no point getting in a pissing contest trying to prove your own theory. there surely are people with FAR more knowledge and experience with the topic at hand who are looking into this and in the loop and even they havent found a solution yet.

all anyone has is a complete guess. I am sure nobody here is going to point out anything that the people who actually know their shit and know whats going on and who are doing the investigating/searching have not already considered.

I agree...Well said.

 

[Sportsaholic]

A few years back there was a golfer that had a private jet the had a malfunction (cracked windshield?) and the plane flew for hours on its own with all on board deceased......Could this be the reason for the rise in altitude then decent......:shrug:

 

[gardenweasel]

lumi...i was kidding...i love ya,dude....:0074

seriously,though.....if...if that course change happened 12 minutes before the final contact with air traffic control,why wouldn`t they ask,"hey!....did you guys just change course on us?...wth is happening!!?"......

i have to think that the ground control folks can track the flight path also......at least until everything went dead(or was turned off).....
conjecture on my part...maybe i`m way off here...

just that fast i heard an answer/theory on this....the turn was done at a point in which the plane was transitioning from one ground control area (not sure the exact terminology they used) to another...basically a dead zone in which the maneuver wouldn`t be picked up on the ground....

this is some fascinating shit...

 

[LuvThemDogs]

My personal thoughts are carbon monoxide poisoning or smoke inhalation. You stated that someone went into the E/E bay to disable the ACARS, you were wrong. You said that a fire or smoke in the cabin theory was not plausible, you are wrong. You can't argue with me, not because of my narcissistic tendencies, but because you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. I did misread that you stated your friend did not state that. My apologies. I also never ever ever said it was just one click. I said you had to enter the heading with a turn of the knob. Actually you pull the knob out, turn it to the heading and push it in and voila, turning aircraft. Yes they are making shit up. Trust me. They are over analyzing this crap to the point it is misleading the public. They are all over the place.

I stated what was being reported in the media. I am in the media and I'm fairly certain NBC did not make up that the turn was made 12 minutes prior to the sign off. That is a fucking huge discovery and debunks the fire theory. The guy on CNN just said that a pilot would not make the left turn without getting clearance from the ground and had 12 minutes to alert the ground that he was doing so. None of that happened. And that was just one flaw in the fire theory.

US officials are confirming that the turn was made 12 minutes prior to the sign off as well. Again. Damning evidence of manual control and someone purposely turning that plane for nefarious reasons....

I also said the media is reporting that someone must have gone into the bay and turned off Acars.. NOT ME, NOT MY FRIEND....

 

[fatdaddycool]

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arguing over what happened to this plane is fucking retarded. no point getting in a pissing contest trying to prove your own theory. there surely are people with FAR more knowledge and experience with the topic at hand who are looking into this and in the loop and even they havent found a solution yet.

all anyone has is a complete guess. I am sure nobody here is going to point out anything that the people who actually know their shit and know whats going on and who are doing the investigating/searching have not already considered.

I am not arguing over what happened, but how things happen and the plausibility of a certain theory. Just because you aren't on CNN doesn't mean others don't have a considerable amount of knowledge on the subject. I actually do know my shit, what is retarded is getting shitty with someone because you don't. "FAR" more knowledge huh? Jim Tillman is on their panel, did you know he got fired from AA and had his pilots license revoked more than twenty years ago? Yea, "FAR" more knowledgeable, what a dick thing to say. It's not a complete fucking guess, it's a theory and I have a considerable amount of knowledge on the subject, so thanks for the retarded comment dickhead. This is a message board and the topic is the disappearance of the fucking flight, should everyone just post what was said on CNN or are we allowed to have an opinion without getting called fucking retarded? Just asking what your rules are.

 

[LuvThemDogs]

I am not arguing over what happened, but how things happen and the plausibility of a certain theory. Just because you aren't on CNN doesn't mean others don't have a considerable amount of knowledge on the subject. I actually do know my shit, what is retarded is getting shitty with someone because you don't. "FAR" more knowledge huh? Jim Tillman is on their panel, did you know he got fired from AA and had his pilots license revoked more than twenty years ago? Yea, "FAR" more knowledgeable, what a dick thing to say. It's not a complete fucking guess, it's a theory and I have a considerable amount of knowledge on the subject, so thanks for the retarded comment dickhead. This is a message board and the topic is the disappearance of the fucking flight, should everyone just post what was said on CNN or are we allowed to have an opinion without getting called fucking retarded? Just asking what your rules are.

YOU started with the insults. Period. Do you read what you write? You are condemning him for doing the exact thing you were doing. Attacking someone for having an opinion.....

 

[fatdaddycool]

I stated what was being reported in the media. I am in the media and I'm fairly certain NBC did not make up that the turn was made 12 minutes prior to the sign off. That is a fucking huge discovery and debunks the fire theory. The guy on CNN just said that a pilot would not make the left turn without getting clearance from the ground and had 12 minutes to alert the ground that he was doing so. None of that happened. And that was just one flaw in the fire theory.

US officials are confirming that the turn was made 12 minutes prior to the sign off as well. Again. Damning evidence of manual control and someone purposely turning that plane for nefarious reasons....

I also said the media is reporting that someone must have gone into the bay and turned off Acars.. NOT ME, NOT MY FRIEND....

It doesn't debunk anything and your words were "that was done" when talking about going into the E/E bay to disable the ACARS. Dude, making a turn in an aircraft doesn't mean the aircraft is being flown manually, it simply means the airplane turned.

Also, a working theory is still only a theory, doesn't mean all others are false.

I am done arguing with you, watch CNN. Get your facts there, that's always a good idea. I apologize for getting a little hot at you, I shouldn't have.




Lumi,
No I didn't work for them but did take several of their training classes throughout the years.


Hope this helps,
FDC

 

[dunclock]

A few years back there was a golfer that had a private jet the had a malfunction (cracked windshield?) and the plane flew for hours on its own with all on board deceased......Could this be the reason for the rise in altitude then decent......:shrug:

Payne Stewart ... he flew thru my brothers airspace in Memphis (air traffic controller) when everyone was long dead ... he had to track it to make sure it wasnt going to crash in residential area or they were gonna have to shoot it out of the air :scared

and no one answered my cell phones question :facepalm:

 

[airportis]

I am not arguing over what happened, but how things happen and the plausibility of a certain theory. Just because you aren't on CNN doesn't mean others don't have a considerable amount of knowledge on the subject. I actually do know my shit, what is retarded is getting shitty with someone because you don't. "FAR" more knowledge huh? Jim Tillman is on their panel, did you know he got fired from AA and had his pilots license revoked more than twenty years ago? Yea, "FAR" more knowledgeable, what a dick thing to say. It's not a complete fucking guess, it's a theory and I have a considerable amount of knowledge on the subject, so thanks for the retarded comment dickhead. This is a message board and the topic is the disappearance of the fucking flight, should everyone just post what was said on CNN or are we allowed to have an opinion without getting called fucking retarded? Just asking what your rules are.

dude you have issues. i dont know what cnn has to do with anything or any other news program for that matter. the people who know their shit and are in the loop arent the ones sat up in front of a tv camera all day. theyre the ones actually doing shit out in the field and trying to come up with answers. they also probably have way more information than anyone here has or has even been released to the public. i dont know who the fuck Jim Tillman is either and again, no idea what he has to do with anything.

my comment was based on the fact that this is a tragedy and people are on here beating their chests trying to 1 up each other about being right. like really, is it that important to be right about this? it is a tragedy with all outcomes looking pretty bad at this point unless something miraculous happened to save people.

 

[fatdaddycool]

YOU started with the insults. Period. Do you read what you write? You are condemning him for doing the exact thing you were doing. Attacking someone for having an opinion.....

Yes, I just read them all again and I never insulted anyone. I stated that if your friend or you think that you have to go into an electrical bay to disable the ACARS then he is a moron. That isn't an insult as much as it is an observation.

 

[LuvThemDogs]

Yes, I just read them all again and I never insulted anyone. I stated that if your friend or you think that you have to go into an electrical bay to disable the ACARS then he is a moron. That isn't an insult as much as it is an observation.

Great. And he never said that as I stated more than once, but you failed to comprehend, and I only stated what was being reported. So your erroneous implication makes you a moron. That isn't an insult as much as an observation as well....

 

[fatdaddycool]

dude you have issues. i dont know what cnn has to do with anything or any other news program for that matter. the people who know their shit and are in the loop arent the ones sat up in front of a tv camera all day. theyre the ones actually doing shit out in the field and trying to come up with answers. they also probably have way more information than anyone here has or has even been released to the public. i dont know who the fuck Jim Tillman is either and again, no idea what he has to do with anything.

my comment was based on the fact that this is a tragedy and people are on here beating their chests trying to 1 up each other about being right. like really, is it that important to be right about this? it is a tragedy with all outcomes looking pretty bad at this point unless something miraculous happened to save people.

You stated, "by people that actually know their shit". I know exactly what you meant and exactly who you meant it for. You won't admit that and I don't expect you too but we both know what you meant and it sure as hell wasn't about those good people in the field working for a solution.

 

[fatdaddycool]

Great. And he never said that as I stated more than once, but you failed to comprehend, and I only stated what was being reported. So your erroneous implication makes you a moron. That isn't an insult as much as an observation as well....

You know what, I apologized for that already but only as it applies to your friend. You stated that it happened, the news did not, moron.

 

[Lumi]

FDC
Did you work for Raytheon ?

Just asking..

 

[fatdaddycool]

Just asking..

No brother, I didn't. I took a few training classes from them when TCAS was new and such but never employed by them.