Assasinate Bertuzzi!!!

[Mr Hockey]

Colorado Avalanche forward Steve Moore will miss the rest of the season with a broken neck:


The man deserves to be suspended for atleast a year. His intention was to clearly hurt the guy. Some of you should grow up & look past the fact of what "usually" happens in these situations. We only need to focus on what "actually" happened. Bertuzzi is nothing but a bi-tch.

 

[Sam]

A "bitch" look who has to grow up, i thought you were smarter than that.

and its not a "broken Neck", read some more bitch

 

[saint]

His intention was to clearly hurt the guy. We only need to focus on what "actually" happened. Bertuzzi is nothing but a bi-tch.

Just a question...so which do you think is more important, intent to injury or the resultant injury? There are plenty of people who intend to injury another player but don't end up breaking their vetebrae. Should they be penalized at all? If so, how much less than when they actually succeed in their intent? I guess the point is that plenty of players intend to injury another, but no one notices unless someone gets hurt.

It's like murder vs intent to murder. And before anyone flames that statement, i'm not comparing murder to hockey. But I am comparing intent to injure vs. actually injuring, and the penalties associated. If someone intends to murder someone, they are punished. If they succeed in their intents, then they are punished with a heavier sentence. Isn't it weird that in hockey, intent to injure means nothing unless you actually succeed in injuring someone.

It's like the penalty for high sticking. It's based on whether or not someone bleeds. Have you ever thought about how ridiculous that is? You can get the tiniest nick of a stick blade in an area highly perfused with blood vessels, and get a ton of blood and 5 minutes in the box. Or, you can whack the hell out of someone, but for some reason they don't bleed, and get 2 mins in the box. It doesn't make any sense to me to base punishment on the outcome. It should be based on the act.

 

[Sam]

Right on the nose again saint

so in boxing, when they fight, one guy is trying to severly hurt the other guy right? well he is punching him with a glove on so he must be trying to ruin his career, right?


TRYING TO SEND A MESSAGE !!!!!!!!

 

[trademaster]

Mr. Hockey don't u have other things to do like play 10 wagers on 1 game like u usually do

 

[Mr Hockey]

Are you people for real? Sending a message would be a hard check into the boards for maybe crashing into a goalie but not punching a DEFENSELESS MAN from behind. Some of you are blind.

 

[Mr Hockey]

Mr. Hockey don't u have other things to do like play 10 wagers on 1 game like u usually do

Thank you for showing your maturity level. The thread is filled with adults debating a hot topic from an incident that isn't even yet 24 hours old yet somehow you feel the need to come in with a stupid comment. I'm not sinking to your level. Go find someone else to play with junior.

 

[trademaster]

Bertuzzi is nothing but a bi-tch.

maturity level

 

[Mr Hockey]

I will clarify my own opinion on the situation. I think the hit was totally unnecessary & should come down with a good punishment.

However I'm NOT saying he should be banned for life. No offense but that is going overboard considering some of the things that have happened in this game.

I think a fair punishment would be atleast 15 games.

 

[trademaster]

i agree he will get max 15. 13 for the regular season & 2 playoff games.

 

[chuckdman]

If Moore is out for the rest of the season so should Bertuzzi.

Nothing more, nothing less!

 

[Dick McStiffen]

I say fawk him trade him to Pissburgh.

 

[yyz]

This "sport" is a joke anyway.

Give me international or college games any day over this shit.

The NHL is born and bred on violence, and we are "shocked" that, once again, a goon has taken it a bit too far? My oh my!

I would have to say that any time you smack a guy from behind, it tends to make you look like a pussy. Hit him with a stick? You're a puss, too.

But even in this barbaric sport, there are "rules of engagement", no? You drop the gloves......you square off......you toss a few punches around, and when you fall, it is over.

This guy did what? Came from behind......sucker punched with his glove on, rode him face first into the ice forcing his weight on the guy's head, (Sorry Sam....it's undeniable), and did work a punch or two at him while the others guys pulled at him.

I'm sorry, but there is no hero in this matter. In a sport that prides itself on goons trying to intimidate and hurt other players, where does actual "law" come into play? This guy should be worried about going to prison, not worrying if he will be missing the playoffs.

Anyone who sticks up for this behavior needs their mellon checked, as well.

The day the NHL decides fighting shouldn't be a part of the game, is the day it takes a stride towards being a respectable sport.

 

[Sam]

I dont get u guys, im not standing up for him, his punch was a total cheap shot, BUT, all im saying is that the only reason people are freaking out about it, is because moore got so injured. Most people wouldnt even have known it happened if there wasnt an injury. There are cheap shots day in and day out, but because nobody gets hurt most of the time you dont hear about it. Do i think its right? no. but thats the facts. and like i said i have seen guys do it this year, and they got nothing cause they didnt hurt anyone. Im not saying i dont think he should be suspended, just not hung for it, because this time unfortunately somebody got hurt. Its an issue with the whole league, not one guy. So dont say sorry Sam, cause im not spearheading letting him go unpunished, just saying why over react when it happens all the time. Ya give him 15 games, whatever, but when people talk about not letting him play again, thats just stupid.

 

[RexBudler]

www.muricane.com/BertuzziSuckerPunch.wmv

 

[Sam]

and u know what, if you think fighting should be taken out of the sport, you havent watched enough of it to understand why it has to be there.

 

[yyz]

...and if you think it has to be there, you are the guy they pander too.


I have watched hockey for 30+ years. I played it for 10 of those. I used to enjoy it. I haven't watched it with interest for over 15 years now, due soley to the fighting. It does not make the game fun to see teams employ certain players for the sole reason of being an "enforcer". Play the game the way it was meant to be played.

NCAA hockey gets played just fine without fighting. So does international hockey. Fighting is there for one reason. So boobs who get off on it, will keep watching.


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all im saying is that the only reason people are freaking out about it, is because moore got so injured. Most people wouldnt even have known it happened if there wasnt an injury.
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Well, no shit! The fuking injury is what has people pissed! If you drive home drunk every night, who notices or cares?

"But let me plow into someone, and put them in a coma, and the whole world wants my ass!"

Go figure...............

 

[Dick McStiffen]

and u know what, if you think fighting should be taken out of the sport, you havent watched enough of it to understand why it has to be there.

That is absolutely true. Fighting has to be there when everyone carries a stick. Fighting keeps players honest with their sticks.

I think the reason that everyone is all over Bertuzzi for this attack is they talked about a bounty for chrisake. Then he went out and mugged him. He does not need to be suspended for life but the attack was obviously premeditated and should carry a heavier penalty. Premeditated murder is treated differently then a murder committed in a fit of rage.

On another note Saint I know a guy who works for chapstick and I can get you a good deal on a gross of tubes if your interested.

 

[Sam]

so tell me why the fuk nobody else should get hung for doing that same kinda cheap shot, but in their case they were lucky enough that nobody got hurt? And if you played it back then, are you trying to say there was no fighting back then, all about skilled players? Last time i checked it wasnt all skill back then either, so why did you play it, if you dislike it so much? The fighting aspect hasnt changed, so why gripe about it now?


(i agree dick, punish him, but be realistic is all )

 

[Dick McStiffen]

Sam to me in this situation the big difference is the talk from the Canucks prior to the incident about a bounty. That stinks of premeditation on their part. I played too and I know all about the heat of the moment but this does not seem to apply here.