Boxing 11/25 - 11/27
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Yea, but do you have an opinion? I think it's basically a pick-em, so I'll take the odds. Plus, Cobra's squeeze called his Kingness a "midget". Me, I won't bet however until the crew gets on board either way as I could'nt pick Shaquille O'Neal out of a bowl of white rice lately.
Marquez-Katsidis
Marquez-Katsidis
Regarding this I can't see how Kat can hang with JMM as the mexican's vast experience is overwhelming. Marquez has been in truly with the best in the world. He always seems to come ready to fight and doesn't let up. He is one tough accountant.Only caveat is his age at 37, but he has no bad habits outside the ring according to everything that's been written about him. A possible Marquez/Froch parlay might work.
Marquez-Katsidis
Regarding this I can't see how Kat can hang with JMM as the mexican's vast experience is overwhelming. Marquez has been in truly with the best in the world. He always seems to come ready to fight and doesn't let up. He is one tough accountant.Only caveat is his age at 37, but he has no bad habits outside the ring according to everything that's been written about him. A possible Marquez/Froch parlay might work.
I imagined Mini-Burgos to be a much bigger man next to Hoz, but after the presser photo, clearly not so.
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Hozumi Hasegawa update
Hozumi Hasegawa update
Yes indeed, I think one reason being his countryman Nishioka rules 122. I've been watching a Japanese variety show called Seyanen, which has covered Hoz extensively throughout the years, follow him in camp. You probably know Hoz has been struggling to make 118 for years and would starve himself 'til his legs would cramp up, but now at 126, he is able to eat normally and train, and according to first hand reports on his sparring, he looks ferocious. I watched the episode of him sparring as well, and he's hitting the mitts far more harder than I've ever see him before. Looks good at the weight too. Important note about his sparring; narrator says he's sparred 140 rounds now, 30 more than he was physically able to back at 118.
Video below:
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Hozumi Hasegawa update
Yes indeed, I think one reason being his countryman Nishioka rules 122. I've been watching a Japanese variety show called Seyanen, which has covered Hoz extensively throughout the years, follow him in camp. You probably know Hoz has been struggling to make 118 for years and would starve himself 'til his legs would cramp up, but now at 126, he is able to eat normally and train, and according to first hand reports on his sparring, he looks ferocious. I watched the episode of him sparring as well, and he's hitting the mitts far more harder than I've ever see him before. Looks good at the weight too. Important note about his sparring; narrator says he's sparred 140 rounds now, 30 more than he was physically able to back at 118.
Video below:
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awesome. thanks for the link december. This is a great Japanese boxing card. Under rated in a solid boxing weekend.
The thing is, Hasegawa sure didn't pick an easy first bout at 126. Burgos is a tough mofo.
Aoh-Tajbert is also a really interesting fight.
The thing is, Hasegawa sure didn't pick an easy first bout at 126. Burgos is a tough mofo.
Aoh-Tajbert is also a really interesting fight.
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Frank, I might be alone on this, and probably betting with my heart more than my mind, but I like Katsidis chances in this fight.
Marquez was dreadful against what I think is a shot, washed up Juan Diaz.
No question Marquez is one of the all time greats. But one fighter is peaking here and one is near the end of his career.
That being said, there is a good chance that a declining Marquez may just always be a level above the Australian warrior.
I LOVE Katsidis and I hope he wins.
Also worth noting, Hoz lost his mother recently but still decided to continue on w/ the fight.
Abraham & Katsidis weekend for me:
we should see a faster starting, superfocused abraham with better footwork, thats enough to beat the caveman
remember wenger, abraham's coach shouting at him after the dirrell fight he needs to start faster
i like katsidis too but based on:
A>B < C..
something like that lololo
marquez can beat diaz
diaz can beat katsidis
can katsidis beat marquez... YES.
and younger bro lost recently, marquez bros go symbiosis a lot
i lost a huge chunk of change on katsidis vs casamayor, $1500, hopefully get it back this saturday and more
we should see a faster starting, superfocused abraham with better footwork, thats enough to beat the caveman
remember wenger, abraham's coach shouting at him after the dirrell fight he needs to start faster
i like katsidis too but based on:
A>B < C..
something like that lololo
marquez can beat diaz
diaz can beat katsidis
can katsidis beat marquez... YES.
and younger bro lost recently, marquez bros go symbiosis a lot
i lost a huge chunk of change on katsidis vs casamayor, $1500, hopefully get it back this saturday and more
You not alone Brother :0074. Me thinks Kats has a great shot in this. Marquez is no spring chicken and Kats has improved. Marquez is going to be forced to use those old legs and I'm kind of banking that they dont work as good as they used to. Good Luck!
i think he said he broke his right hand early in the fight
i'll be rooting for Katsidis in Mexico this saturday :mj07:
i'll be rooting for Katsidis in Mexico this saturday :mj07:
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Thongie that Katsidis-Casamayor fight was a heartbreaker....he ran right into the punch in a fight he was definitely going to win on the cards
Kats is a MUCH improved fighter from that night....smarter....stronger....more relaxed in there...
I also think the version of Juan Diaz who fought Kats was a prime Baby Bull....the Diaz that fought Marquez last fight was a timid, slow, diminished former champ
Will Kats have enough? Not sure....I hope so.....he has a better chance than +250 I think....these guys both cut....glad Lawrence Cole isn't the referee...."you are up on the cards, do you want to stop the fight?"
It's really tough with these "live" underdogs....coming up just short is a gut wrenching feeling...I am still pissed about the Matthysse-Zab result....fine line between live dog and dead dog....and in the end, a losing ticket is a losing ticket....
Go Kats Go ! Aussie Aussie Aussie
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Kats is a MUCH improved fighter from that night....smarter....stronger....more relaxed in there...
I also think the version of Juan Diaz who fought Kats was a prime Baby Bull....the Diaz that fought Marquez last fight was a timid, slow, diminished former champ
Will Kats have enough? Not sure....I hope so.....he has a better chance than +250 I think....these guys both cut....glad Lawrence Cole isn't the referee...."you are up on the cards, do you want to stop the fight?"
It's really tough with these "live" underdogs....coming up just short is a gut wrenching feeling...I am still pissed about the Matthysse-Zab result....fine line between live dog and dead dog....and in the end, a losing ticket is a losing ticket....
Go Kats Go ! Aussie Aussie Aussie
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Thanx Ghost for your viewpoint. I see you also have more than one crew member that is in agreement. Sounds good. My self and a friend plan on going to this one. Should be action packed.
i think i might ride along..i was excited early on(caught +250)....cooled on the wager a bit...
katsidis is a brutally strong s.o.b......and marquez is 37....marquez might be a bit too technical...but at those odds,wth?...how much longer can marquez fight at this level?...maybe katsidis can cut marquez up and wear him down....
and strangely enough,i might lean froch...he`s the natural super middle....and i liked what i saw vs kessler..
i hope the odds move.....if i`m taking 2 dogs,i`d like it to be worth the risk....
btw..still shocked that bute sat the tourney out...has fought absolutely no one(and hasn`t set foot outside canada in 5 years)....and is rated #1...
that`s just wrong...imo,you should have to earn it...not just be given it based on perception...:shrug:
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I'm with you guys on this, and nice to see that's it's gonna be a group play! For all the reasons already cited, I do like Kats chances here. I've already got my wager locked in. At +240 or thereabouts, well wort the risk IMO.
