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Anyone see betting lines yet on tonight's ESPN2 bouts?
 

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A U.K. fight trade poll in the latest Boxing Monthly is interesting. Some of the more informed opinions.

Barry McGuigan: "I expect Valuev to keep his hands high, maintain the centre of the ring and eventually overpower Haye."

Brendan Ingle: "David Haye will stand Valuev on his head just as Max Baer stood the Ambling Alp [Primo Carnera] on his head back in the 1930s."

Richie Woodhall: "David knocks him out. I'm very positive about this."

Steve Collins: "I think Valuev's too big for Haye, and when he hits him, David will go."

The poll favoured Haye 15-10, but being a British poll there might have been some patriot picks in there.


So what do you think, Graham? I'm looking forward to reading your preview.
 

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I wonder if they will post a line on the Helenius-Bidenko fight? Close odds if so. They sure are moving 9-0 Helenius quickly. If he gets by Bidenko he's lined up to face Lamon Brewster in a month. I saw Helenius once, and he looked allright...like a developing prospect. He must be impressing in the gym if they are fast forwarding him like this.
 

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Haye-Valuev

Haye-Valuev

So what do you think, Graham? I'm looking forward to reading your preview.

I don't have a solid opinion on this fight; usually when I start to break it all down the picture seems to get a little clearer.

I think Kramden has a good grasp on it. If Valuev can take Haye's big shots early in the fight he has a chance of wearing Haye down, if only because being in the ring with a man this huge can be tiring.

If Haye gets tired, maybe Valuev can catch him with a right hand late in the fight. Holyfield did a lot of moving, and did it very well, but there was a reason why he didn't want to stand right in front of Valuev. Evander certainly didn't want to let Valuev hit him.

I'm not sure if Haye can be as elusive as Evander was that night, not for the whole 12 rounds. I'm leaning a little towards Valuev, late-round stoppage. As Kramden says, Monte Barrett was bouncing right hands off of Valuev's head, and Haye could do the same, but David will have to be careful not to punch himself out.

Interesting fight.
 

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I don't have a solid opinion on this fight; usually when I start to break it all down the picture seems to get a little clearer.

I think Kramden has a good grasp on it. If Valuev can take Haye's big shots early in the fight he has a chance of wearing Haye down, if only because being in the ring with a man this huge can be tiring.

If Haye gets tired, maybe Valuev can catch him with a right hand late in the fight. Holyfield did a lot of moving, and did it very well, but there was a reason why he didn't want to stand right in front of Valuev. Evander certainly didn't want to let Valuev hit him.

I'm not sure if Haye can be as elusive as Evander was that night, not for the whole 12 rounds. I'm leaning a little towards Valuev, late-round stoppage. As Kramden says, Monte Barrett was bouncing right hands off of Valuev's head, and Haye could do the same, but David will have to be careful not to punch himself out.

Interesting fight.

I think that's it. Either Haye is quick enough and hits hard enough to knock the big guy out or not. If not, Valuev stands a good chance of tiring him out.
 

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His size never stops amazing me....what a HUGE MF !
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New lines are out. I like over 5.5 -170 on Francisco Figueroa vs Holloway. This looks like a full distance fight to me, which is only 8 rounds.
Is anyone like something else?
 

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New lines are out. I like over 5.5 -170 on Francisco Figueroa vs Holloway. This looks like a full distance fight to me, which is only 8 rounds.
Is anyone like something else?

I hit it for the max. I don't see any reason why this shouldn't go some rds. Bailey has some serious pop, hence the Fig ko stoppage but Halloway doesn't have that kind of power. Halloway has a bit of a streak going and Fig has never stopped anybody of note.
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I also hit the Litz over. I think his power is a little overrated. Edwards got blitzed in 1 by Gamboa but Litz isn't even in that league. I could be wrong but I liked the + number on 6 1/2 rds.

Litz -500 is is too wide but I'd be very surprised to see him lose.
 

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Litzau over looks like a good bet too. I thought about it but chose to go with over on Figueroa.
 

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Figueroa-Holloway over seems like the logical bet tonight. It's up to -200 now, but actually opened at -140. Why it's set at 5.5 I don't know? Seems almost strange, as this one has all the looks of a distance fight.
 

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It set at 5.5 because oddsmaker thinks that there is a chance that this fight might be 6 rounds fight. So if he set 7.5 then all bets will be returned. But at 5.5 all bets will stand no matter it is 8 or 6 round fight.
Figueroa-Holloway over seems like the logical bet tonight. It's up to -200 now, but actually opened at -140. Why it's set at 5.5 I don't know? Seems almost strange, as this one has all the looks of a distance fight.
 

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I took a shot at Halloway @ +140.
He looks like a fighter going up and it has been reported that he gave some good sparring to PacMan. I guess that would make you ready for a fight.
 
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I like Holloway by decision
Good call fellas on the OVER
its gonna be a cancelled bet or a winner!
win win situation
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I like Holloway by decision
Good call fellas on the OVER
its gonna be a cancelled bet or a winner!
win win situation
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Why what's up Ghost? Did they change the number of rounds?
 

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Figueroa has been in with much better and he's pretty slick. Holloway seems to have some promise but has fought limited people. A draw with Harrison is poor result. I'd say Figueroa wins it by dec. Fig fights under Roy Jones. We'll find out in moments.
 
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