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Totally agree. I think he checked out right after Dikinson scored stoppage. Cut was not bad it was vertical cut - not dangerous.
Boxing 4/30 - 5/1
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man, HBO has to take a cue from the UFC for weigh-ins
UFC has Joe Rogan MC and the weigh-ins are exciting...events themselves....
HBO just put a mic in old George Wallace's hands (the comedian) and he was telling stale jokes and didn't even know the fighter's names....he asked Andre Berto "who are you?"
embarrassing....awful stuff for boxing....
UFC has Joe Rogan MC and the weigh-ins are exciting...events themselves....
HBO just put a mic in old George Wallace's hands (the comedian) and he was telling stale jokes and didn't even know the fighter's names....he asked Andre Berto "who are you?"
embarrassing....awful stuff for boxing....
- Jun 23, 2008
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really wish more books would take bets on the overall winner of these prizefighter tourneys
Quanah requested this a few weeks back
but not many books do it
I loved Dickinson chances and he did it
I knew he would make the final
and all you had to think was if something happened to Hide someone else could win it
sure enough a cut
funny stuff happens in boxing every week
Quanah requested this a few weeks back
but not many books do it
I loved Dickinson chances and he did it
I knew he would make the final
and all you had to think was if something happened to Hide someone else could win it
sure enough a cut
funny stuff happens in boxing every week
- Nov 14, 2008
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Almost all euro books offered the odds on a overall winner. I don't touch them though. I don't remember ever picking the right guy to win it all :mj07:
But you called it right yesterday :toast:
With Hide at around -115 to win the whole thing I guess odds on Dickinson were around +450.
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Don George has stopped a lot of people but these ghanaian boxers are VERY tough to stop . Odamu took a huge beating every round dropped bunch of times before it finally got stopped few weeks ago . I think Osumanu Adama has good chance of going to distance which is just 8 rounds anyway .
Anybody betting on this fight ?
Anybody betting on this fight ?
I'm on Da Bomb tonight for a decent amt. I've seen youtube footage on him and the kid can definately punch. Not sure how he'll do against top level but he's been destroying d-c level fighters. The guy he's in with tonight might be a step up but his only loss was to a guy that struggled with one of Da Bombs casualties. I took it for -400. Da Bombs knockdown of naugler is of the highlight real variety. Also on Floyd tomorrow @-210 and -250. Scalp is available but I'll be more than surprised to see Shane turn back time...Floyd ud 116-112 x 3 imo. Also threw a buck (away maybe) on minto +900. Huck doesn't have the best defense and alfolabi and ramiraz had some moments. Huck was fading in those fights. He won through grit and determination. I'll be surprised to see Minto win but worth a small play. Good luck gents!
- Jun 23, 2008
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I think George will win, one way or another
I parlayed George with a few futures
look at Cotto's weight for tomorrow
149 ?!!?
WTF....this cat has to be soft
never fought a even close to welter
fought Juan Diaz at 135
surely Alvarez can win here by KO, the question is before 7.5
I think so
matt got a good number on that
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maxboxing preview of George fight:
Osumanu Adama ? Well-built Ghanaian, listed variously between 6?3? to 5?11?, but certainly with long arms, was an accomplished amateur who represented Ghana at the 2000 Olympics. Won silver at the All-Africa games, and was selected as a Ghana?s ?Amateur Boxer of the Year? as well. Only 19, at those Olympics, and it shone through when he was stopped in the first fight by Tunisian Marmouri Salah. Looked lackadaisical about career after turning pro, only six fights in first three years and two fights from 2005 to 2008. Did get back to regular activity with four fights in 2009, and one already this year. Relocated to London for better sparring a couple years ago, but returned to Ghana and has had all but three of his fights there. Had two fights in the Czech Republic, and suffered his only loss in American debut to Dyah Davis. Lone fight I saw of Adama, against 9-26 Patrik Hruska, displayed a free-swinging style with legs spread too wide to make proper use of his power. Most of Adama?s bulk is centered on upper body and broad chest, with average legs and skinny thighs that do not generate a snap to his punches. Jab was sporadically powerful, but lacking accuracy. Targets the body with sweeping punches, but like other punches, their effectiveness is lessened by visibility of punches and lack of jab to set them up. Does not hide intent of what punch is coming or feint, and fell into a predictable pattern. Stamina seemed fine, and he was swinging hard in later rounds. Defense is basic, aside from throwing uppercuts from way too far out, but chin seems sturdy enough for class fought to date. The fight I saw was against a lefty, so perhaps that played into his awkwardness.
Donovan George ? Doubly good-looking, as in modeling and boxing ability, Chicago-based prospect has the right package to succeed. A crowd-pleasing banger, George enters on a 12-fight kayo streak. An aggressive offensive force, he won a lot of amateur accolades (three-time Chicago Golden Gloves champ, and two-time runner-up in national tourneys), despite competing in less than 40 amateur bouts. Father was an amateur boxer, so George grew up with a love for the sport. Put on gloves as early as three years old, but did not start engaging in amateur bouts until age 16. Decided to turn pro at 19, after failing to qualify for Olympic slot, and has not looked back, registering 17 KOs in 19 victories. The publicity train is getting a head of steam with George, throwing out the first pitch at Monday?s Chicago Cub?s game (is that really a good omen?). George says of his style, ?I?m a boxer-puncher, but I like to get in there; I like to mix it up. Pretty much all action, all the time. I go for the win, of course, but I want the knockout badly, and I?ll be willing to do just about whatever it takes to get that knockout.? Only one fight went six rounds, with every other opponent dispatched before the fifth stanza. Has banger?s disease on defense, where a lack of head movement and perceived invulnerability leads to his eating unnecessary punches. Is ambidextrous, and claims to throw with equal power in both hands. Level of competition has been middling for a prospect with 20 fights, with Midwest journeyman Shay Mobley and erratic Marcus Upshaw topping that list, but all were stopped in style. Calls Diego Corrales and Sugar Ray Robinson his boxing inspirations. Straight right hand is finishing blow of choice, and kayo ratio of 85% is indicative of his killer instinct. Weight has fluctuated from middleweight to super middle, but George would be wise to get down to middleweight if his body can make that without suffering. Was inactive for a year-and-a-half between 2007 and 2009, and I read reports of brushes with the law that surprised me since his father was a policeman. Seems intent to fight at 168 pounds, where there are plenty of fellow young guns (on this card alone) to make a reputation against.
Result ? I think Adama is a better test than George?s team know but, in the end, their man?s shorter and more polished punches win the day. The Ghanaian?s punches are strong, but too wide and visible for George not to see and prepare for. George has better versatility, but he also has a fighter?s mentality and may be drawn into an unnecessary firefight. Ghanaian?s have an uncanny ability to soak up punches, so I am picking the fight to go the distance. If either of these men has a weak chin, it will be revealed tonight. The more compact and varied offense of George prevails for a unanimous decision win.
Osumanu Adama ? Well-built Ghanaian, listed variously between 6?3? to 5?11?, but certainly with long arms, was an accomplished amateur who represented Ghana at the 2000 Olympics. Won silver at the All-Africa games, and was selected as a Ghana?s ?Amateur Boxer of the Year? as well. Only 19, at those Olympics, and it shone through when he was stopped in the first fight by Tunisian Marmouri Salah. Looked lackadaisical about career after turning pro, only six fights in first three years and two fights from 2005 to 2008. Did get back to regular activity with four fights in 2009, and one already this year. Relocated to London for better sparring a couple years ago, but returned to Ghana and has had all but three of his fights there. Had two fights in the Czech Republic, and suffered his only loss in American debut to Dyah Davis. Lone fight I saw of Adama, against 9-26 Patrik Hruska, displayed a free-swinging style with legs spread too wide to make proper use of his power. Most of Adama?s bulk is centered on upper body and broad chest, with average legs and skinny thighs that do not generate a snap to his punches. Jab was sporadically powerful, but lacking accuracy. Targets the body with sweeping punches, but like other punches, their effectiveness is lessened by visibility of punches and lack of jab to set them up. Does not hide intent of what punch is coming or feint, and fell into a predictable pattern. Stamina seemed fine, and he was swinging hard in later rounds. Defense is basic, aside from throwing uppercuts from way too far out, but chin seems sturdy enough for class fought to date. The fight I saw was against a lefty, so perhaps that played into his awkwardness.
Donovan George ? Doubly good-looking, as in modeling and boxing ability, Chicago-based prospect has the right package to succeed. A crowd-pleasing banger, George enters on a 12-fight kayo streak. An aggressive offensive force, he won a lot of amateur accolades (three-time Chicago Golden Gloves champ, and two-time runner-up in national tourneys), despite competing in less than 40 amateur bouts. Father was an amateur boxer, so George grew up with a love for the sport. Put on gloves as early as three years old, but did not start engaging in amateur bouts until age 16. Decided to turn pro at 19, after failing to qualify for Olympic slot, and has not looked back, registering 17 KOs in 19 victories. The publicity train is getting a head of steam with George, throwing out the first pitch at Monday?s Chicago Cub?s game (is that really a good omen?). George says of his style, ?I?m a boxer-puncher, but I like to get in there; I like to mix it up. Pretty much all action, all the time. I go for the win, of course, but I want the knockout badly, and I?ll be willing to do just about whatever it takes to get that knockout.? Only one fight went six rounds, with every other opponent dispatched before the fifth stanza. Has banger?s disease on defense, where a lack of head movement and perceived invulnerability leads to his eating unnecessary punches. Is ambidextrous, and claims to throw with equal power in both hands. Level of competition has been middling for a prospect with 20 fights, with Midwest journeyman Shay Mobley and erratic Marcus Upshaw topping that list, but all were stopped in style. Calls Diego Corrales and Sugar Ray Robinson his boxing inspirations. Straight right hand is finishing blow of choice, and kayo ratio of 85% is indicative of his killer instinct. Weight has fluctuated from middleweight to super middle, but George would be wise to get down to middleweight if his body can make that without suffering. Was inactive for a year-and-a-half between 2007 and 2009, and I read reports of brushes with the law that surprised me since his father was a policeman. Seems intent to fight at 168 pounds, where there are plenty of fellow young guns (on this card alone) to make a reputation against.
Result ? I think Adama is a better test than George?s team know but, in the end, their man?s shorter and more polished punches win the day. The Ghanaian?s punches are strong, but too wide and visible for George not to see and prepare for. George has better versatility, but he also has a fighter?s mentality and may be drawn into an unnecessary firefight. Ghanaian?s have an uncanny ability to soak up punches, so I am picking the fight to go the distance. If either of these men has a weak chin, it will be revealed tonight. The more compact and varied offense of George prevails for a unanimous decision win.
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maxboxing preview of Johnson-Edwards:
Derek Edwards ? A 30-year-old is rarely the main attraction in a ?ShoBox? event, which specializes in breaking young talent. Yes, Edwards is the opponent, but also an undefeated boxer with an awkward style. Started boxing at age eight, and does seem to have some innate moves and reflexive skills that come with comfort in the ring. A burly super middle with muscular shoulders, his proportions suggests that he should have more than a 52% ratio. One reason for this could be that Edwards often squares up in order to lead with either hand, falling forward with punches more than creating torque by pivoting into a punch. Lack of hand speed hampers Edwards, mostly because his punches are launched from too far away and are picked up for a lack of persistent jab. When Edwards gets too comfortable, his lead hand drops on defense, but he does duck low to avoid punches or roll blows. Before last three bouts, had only faced one opponent with a winning record, and never faced a foe who seemed to be a real threat. Turned pro in 2002, but from 2006 on, never fought more than twice a year, and outside of one fight in Pennsylvania, never fought outside of the weakly governed Southern circuits. Two split decision wins, in Edwards? hometown, against sub-.500 boxers does not engender confidence either. Did stop totally shot former title challenger Carl Daniels last August, and won a split decision over challenging young Anthony Greenidge last year. Does not look like a threat to break out of the Southern circuit, but that unwieldy style could cause confusion or headbutts early.
Marcus Johnson - Born in Muhammad Ali?s hometown, Louisville, KY, Johnson is a top-notch prospect who signed with Don King after a decorated amateur career. Relocated to Houston, which sports an intense boxing scene and good training atmosphere. A talented amateur, Johnson was an U.S. National Amateur champion (also two Junior National Under-19 titles) defeating Andre Dirrell, but lost out on an Olympic spot when Andre Ward defeated him in the finals of the 2004 Olympic Trials. Reportedly had gloves on since age four, and finished with a 117-11 amateur record. 70 stoppages in the unpaid ranks certainly suggest he was trained in a pro style. Turned pro at age 18, and is trained by his father, who was an amateur boxer in the Army. Johnson is a pressure fighter who stays close to opponents without smothering his punches, or getting pulled into the trenches. Sports excellent hand speed, but sometimes seems confused as whether to focus on combinations or power punching. It?s almost as if the wealth of offensive options tempts Johnson to try too much instead of focusing on the one aspect which is winning the fight. Fluid style leads from one combination to the other, except when he takes the time to admire his work. Johnson?s reflexive skills allow him to get away with- for now- defensive flaws like pulling straight back. Not been pressed in any fight, but amateur background should have him prepared for a strong force in the other corner. Did not look impressive in Showtime debut, against Victor Villereal, but claims to have entered with a right hand injury. Managed by James Prince, Johnson signed with Lou DiBella two fights ago. Look for them to up his fight schedule, since he only fought an average of twice a year over the last three years. Fought an equally weak list of opponents to Edwards, but did stop five of his last six opponents. In interviews, Johnson expressed a frustration with the slow pace of his career, and is eager to find the spotlight. Is working harder as his career progresses, training down from the 175 pounds he fought at for the first three years.
Result ? Johnson?s nickname is ?Too Much? and that will be the case against Edwards. Johnson simply has every advantage. Edwards? one unique move of a half stance, that allows him to switch up and lead with either hand, is actually a drawback since Johnson?s speed and straight punches will get to Edwards in mid-switch. I don?t see this one going past four rounds.
Derek Edwards ? A 30-year-old is rarely the main attraction in a ?ShoBox? event, which specializes in breaking young talent. Yes, Edwards is the opponent, but also an undefeated boxer with an awkward style. Started boxing at age eight, and does seem to have some innate moves and reflexive skills that come with comfort in the ring. A burly super middle with muscular shoulders, his proportions suggests that he should have more than a 52% ratio. One reason for this could be that Edwards often squares up in order to lead with either hand, falling forward with punches more than creating torque by pivoting into a punch. Lack of hand speed hampers Edwards, mostly because his punches are launched from too far away and are picked up for a lack of persistent jab. When Edwards gets too comfortable, his lead hand drops on defense, but he does duck low to avoid punches or roll blows. Before last three bouts, had only faced one opponent with a winning record, and never faced a foe who seemed to be a real threat. Turned pro in 2002, but from 2006 on, never fought more than twice a year, and outside of one fight in Pennsylvania, never fought outside of the weakly governed Southern circuits. Two split decision wins, in Edwards? hometown, against sub-.500 boxers does not engender confidence either. Did stop totally shot former title challenger Carl Daniels last August, and won a split decision over challenging young Anthony Greenidge last year. Does not look like a threat to break out of the Southern circuit, but that unwieldy style could cause confusion or headbutts early.
Marcus Johnson - Born in Muhammad Ali?s hometown, Louisville, KY, Johnson is a top-notch prospect who signed with Don King after a decorated amateur career. Relocated to Houston, which sports an intense boxing scene and good training atmosphere. A talented amateur, Johnson was an U.S. National Amateur champion (also two Junior National Under-19 titles) defeating Andre Dirrell, but lost out on an Olympic spot when Andre Ward defeated him in the finals of the 2004 Olympic Trials. Reportedly had gloves on since age four, and finished with a 117-11 amateur record. 70 stoppages in the unpaid ranks certainly suggest he was trained in a pro style. Turned pro at age 18, and is trained by his father, who was an amateur boxer in the Army. Johnson is a pressure fighter who stays close to opponents without smothering his punches, or getting pulled into the trenches. Sports excellent hand speed, but sometimes seems confused as whether to focus on combinations or power punching. It?s almost as if the wealth of offensive options tempts Johnson to try too much instead of focusing on the one aspect which is winning the fight. Fluid style leads from one combination to the other, except when he takes the time to admire his work. Johnson?s reflexive skills allow him to get away with- for now- defensive flaws like pulling straight back. Not been pressed in any fight, but amateur background should have him prepared for a strong force in the other corner. Did not look impressive in Showtime debut, against Victor Villereal, but claims to have entered with a right hand injury. Managed by James Prince, Johnson signed with Lou DiBella two fights ago. Look for them to up his fight schedule, since he only fought an average of twice a year over the last three years. Fought an equally weak list of opponents to Edwards, but did stop five of his last six opponents. In interviews, Johnson expressed a frustration with the slow pace of his career, and is eager to find the spotlight. Is working harder as his career progresses, training down from the 175 pounds he fought at for the first three years.
Result ? Johnson?s nickname is ?Too Much? and that will be the case against Edwards. Johnson simply has every advantage. Edwards? one unique move of a half stance, that allows him to switch up and lead with either hand, is actually a drawback since Johnson?s speed and straight punches will get to Edwards in mid-switch. I don?t see this one going past four rounds.
as a big admirer of mayweather`s talent,i think,even at 38,mosely is a dangerous fight for floyd.....
mosely still has speed....and he has real power....he utterly clowned margarito(the guy everybody said would destroy mayweather)....
i "think" mayweather" should" outpoint mosely....have a par with "money wins by decision"....
but i might hedge...this ain`t gonna be easy,imo...what if those brittle looking hands give out?....
mosely still has speed....and he has real power....he utterly clowned margarito(the guy everybody said would destroy mayweather)....
i "think" mayweather" should" outpoint mosely....have a par with "money wins by decision"....
but i might hedge...this ain`t gonna be easy,imo...what if those brittle looking hands give out?....
I took Shane+325. I don't have a clue except the May's have been chirping something about $$$$ losing his"0". Now I don't think I have ever heard that kind of talk coming from them.
Hope you are right about the KO as that would seem to be my only option. Not sure what the Trop offers as they really haven't been a boxing venue in Vegas for mucho years, if at all.
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Da Bomb is starting soon
card just went on air, but its a tripleheader
and george is second fight of 3
i might be out of touch for next few hours
hopefully someone can update whether he wins or not
