Governor of Illinois arrested on corruption charges!

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This guy was fucking trying to SELL a U.S. Senate seat!

Yes, he is the big fish in this. That's who they want and will get. And you're worried about the 'timing' of the arrests?

At the state level(although involving the federal level), i'm having a hard time thinking of what bigger scandal there has ever been.

this guy is gong to sing very loudly when all is said & done....
 

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Agree Al
--unless he's takes the Susan McDougal route and is opting for last minute pardon-four years from now. Looks especially lucrative considering O has retained Clintons co-conspirator on the 141 last minute pardon fiasco at Attorney General spot--
change you can believe in?--not quite
--but certainly fits the "hope" mode if your a 10 most wanted-or someone imprisoned for refusng to testify against you. ;)

I think the sleeper in this one we haven't heard much about is Emil Jones Jr--who O has called his political "mentor"--and was ardent backer of both O and Blago. In same mold as the Rev--exploits his followers only to sail off and reside in all white gaited community with his 3 Mercedes when time comes.

Maybe one of most interesting thing in affidavit was Blagos attempt to secure jobs/payoffs for wife.

Lets see Michelle O never earned over $50,000 until O got Senate job in 02--then advances to executive director for community affairs @ University of Chicago Hospitals--then Vice President for Community and External Affairs plus put on board of TreeHouse Foods, Inc and set on the board of directors of the Chicago Council on Global Affairs etc etc :)
 

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Agree Al
--unless he's takes the Susan McDougal route and is opting for last minute pardon-four years from now. Looks especially lucrative considering O has retained Clintons co-conspirator on the 141 last minute pardon fiasco at Attorney General spot--
change you can believe in?--not quite
--but certainly fits the "hope" mode if your a 10 most wanted-or someone imprisoned for refusng to testify against you. ;)

I think the sleeper in this one we haven't heard much about is Emil Jones Jr--who O has called his political "mentor"--and was ardent backer of both O and Blago. In same mold as the Rev--exploits his followers only to sail off and reside in all white gaited community with his 3 Mercedes when time comes.

Maybe one of most interesting thing in affidavit was Blagos attempt to secure jobs/payoffs for wife.

Lets see Michelle O never earned over $50,000 until O got Senate job in 02--then advances to executive director for community affairs @ University of Chicago Hospitals--then Vice President for Community and External Affairs plus put on board of TreeHouse Foods, Inc and set on the board of directors of the Chicago Council on Global Affairs etc etc :)

Let's get back on track and start talking about his birth certificate again. It's so much more interesting.
 

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Matt
May I suggest you get off your boys website and get some views from independent sources :)

Web Wars

The Obama-Biden transition team has launched a new feature on its Web site called "Open for Questions" which is designed to be an open forum for users to ask policy and issue questions. However, it is subject to what amounts to censorship by other users because the more votes an entry gets the higher it moves on the overall list. But some questions are being downplayed by Obama supporters who are trying to remove the entries entirely.

Postings concerning Democratic Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich are being flagged as "inappropriate" by some users ? leading the questions to be removed from the main list. Only by searching key words such as "Blagojevich" can one find those questions.

"Is Barack Obama aware of any communications in the last six weeks between Rod Blagojevich or anyone representing Rod Blagojevich and any of Obama's top aides?" asks Phil from Pennsylvania. But the text underneath that posting reads, "This submission was removed because people believe it is inappropriate.
 

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Matt
May I suggest you get off your boys website and get some views from independent sources :)

Web Wars

The Obama-Biden transition team has launched a new feature on its Web site called "Open for Questions" which is designed to be an open forum for users to ask policy and issue questions. However, it is subject to what amounts to censorship by other users because the more votes an entry gets the higher it moves on the overall list. But some questions are being downplayed by Obama supporters who are trying to remove the entries entirely.

Postings concerning Democratic Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich are being flagged as "inappropriate" by some users ? leading the questions to be removed from the main list. Only by searching key words such as "Blagojevich" can one find those questions.

"Is Barack Obama aware of any communications in the last six weeks between Rod Blagojevich or anyone representing Rod Blagojevich and any of Obama's top aides?" asks Phil from Pennsylvania. But the text underneath that posting reads, "This submission was removed because people believe it is inappropriate.


LOL- i've never been to his website, not once.

Speaking of 'sources', may I ask where your post was pulled from?
 

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BTW Wayne,

It's good to see you back. I know it's been a rough 5 weeks or so for you.

But I also know that you can/will/have overcome the grief.
 

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Obama way to smart to be involved with this BS. Were not talking Bush anymore. We been blasted with this type of chit for 8 years it's hard to shake it off.
 

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BTW Wayne,

It's good to see you back. I know it's been a rough 5 weeks or so for you.

But I also know that you can/will/have overcome the grief.
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:142smilie :mj07: :142smilie
 

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Is anyone here stupid enough, hedgehog aside, to think that OBama was conspiring with Blago to get a little extra pocket money before taking over the Presidency? I really don't feel like reading through gw's drivel and the rest of the thread, I was just wondering.
 

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Is anyone here stupid enough, hedgehog aside, to think that OBama was conspiring with Blago to get a little extra pocket money before taking over the Presidency? I really don't feel like reading through gw's drivel and the rest of the thread, I was just wondering.

Democrats don't do that stuff, just Republicans.

LOL!!!
 

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Is anyone here stupid enough, hedgehog aside, to think that OBama was conspiring with Blago to get a little extra pocket money before taking over the Presidency? I really don't feel like reading through gw's drivel and the rest of the thread, I was just wondering.

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none of the sane ones believe it

Obama has too much to get done to be talking to someone like Blago

Geezz Louise

Come on Jan 20
 

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Is anyone here stupid enough, hedgehog aside, to think that OBama was conspiring with Blago to get a little extra pocket money before taking over the Presidency? I really don't feel like reading through gw's drivel and the rest of the thread, I was just wondering.

Yep there are even some of us stupid folks that believe he would have a race baiting mentor for 20 years--maybe even attend campaign parties thrown for him at known terrorist house--hell maybe even have the convicted "fixer" as his predominent fundraiser.

Maybe some day we will get as smart as you and believe he's innocent because he's throws them under the bus once they are exposed and makes your leg tingle with the "hope" rhetroric. :)

On current even us stupid folks wonder how O can say his people had no contact--yet Axlerod said diff-and Blago says they wouldn't deal-

--and us stupid people also wonder about the union envolvement--
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081212...nor_jarrett;_ylt=ArxX8ylwd4py.DuIx1D_X1x34T0D

According to the complaint, Blagojevich met Nov. 5 with an official of the Service Employees International Union-Local 1 who is believed to be Tom Balanoff, a longtime Obama supporter who spoke at the Democratic National Convention.

Blagojevich "understood" that the SEIU official was "an emissary to discuss Senate Candidate 1's interest" in the Senate seat. Though just a day after the election, media reports had already identified Jarrett as being interested in the job.
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But as the day wore on, Blagojevich continued to discuss the possibility of appointing "Senate Candidate 1" in a series of calls; Blagojevich would stay on as governor and ostensibly run the nonprofit.

"Adviser B" told the governor he liked the Change to Win job best because "from the President-elect's perspective, there would be fewer `fingerprints'" because the union organization was already in existence and fully funded.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Bottom line is -
He and wife were classic underchievers--with ivy league degrees-renters paying off credit card card debt--before being backed by the Illinois crime element--in 6 shorts years we see where he is and wife both are--
Was it that he was extremely lucky and truely so naive he did not know who these people really were-as he states each time one is exposed.
-Or is he part of the Ill corruption--trying to cover his ass time another associate is busted.

We stupid people have some doubts--
Anyone care to give us the "hope-change-yes we can" intellectuals perspective on matter. :)
 

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Yep there are even some of us stupid folks that believe he would have a race baiting mentor for 20 years--maybe even attend campaign parties thrown for him at known terrorist house--hell maybe even have the convicted "fixer" as his predominent fundraiser.

Maybe some day we will get as smart as you and believe he's innocent because he's throws them under the bus once they are exposed and makes your leg tingle with the "hope" rhetroric. :)

On current even us stupid folks wonder how O can say his people had no contact--yet Axlerod said diff-and Blago says they wouldn't deal-

--and us stupid people also wonder about the union envolvement--
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081212...nor_jarrett;_ylt=ArxX8ylwd4py.DuIx1D_X1x34T0D

According to the complaint, Blagojevich met Nov. 5 with an official of the Service Employees International Union-Local 1 who is believed to be Tom Balanoff, a longtime Obama supporter who spoke at the Democratic National Convention.

Blagojevich "understood" that the SEIU official was "an emissary to discuss Senate Candidate 1's interest" in the Senate seat. Though just a day after the election, media reports had already identified Jarrett as being interested in the job.
+++
But as the day wore on, Blagojevich continued to discuss the possibility of appointing "Senate Candidate 1" in a series of calls; Blagojevich would stay on as governor and ostensibly run the nonprofit.

"Adviser B" told the governor he liked the Change to Win job best because "from the President-elect's perspective, there would be fewer `fingerprints'" because the union organization was already in existence and fully funded.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Bottom line is -
He and wife were classic underchievers--with ivy league degrees-renters paying off credit card card debt--before being backed by the Illinois crime element--in 6 shorts years we see where he is and wife both are--
Was it that he was extremely lucky and truely so naive he did not know who these people really were-as he states each time one is exposed.
-Or is he part of the Ill corruption--trying to cover his ass time another associate is busted.

We stupid people have some doubts--
Anyone care to give us the "hope-change-yes we can" intellectuals perspective on matter. :)

..............................................................

Palin / McCain :142smilie
 

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Yep there are even some of us stupid folks that believe he would have a race baiting mentor for 20 years--maybe even attend campaign parties thrown for him at known terrorist house--hell maybe even have the convicted "fixer" as his predominent fundraiser.

Maybe some day we will get as smart as you and believe he's innocent because he's throws them under the bus once they are exposed and makes your leg tingle with the "hope" rhetroric. :)

On current even us stupid folks wonder how O can say his people had no contact--yet Axlerod said diff-and Blago says they wouldn't deal-

--and us stupid people also wonder about the union envolvement--
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081212...nor_jarrett;_ylt=ArxX8ylwd4py.DuIx1D_X1x34T0D

According to the complaint, Blagojevich met Nov. 5 with an official of the Service Employees International Union-Local 1 who is believed to be Tom Balanoff, a longtime Obama supporter who spoke at the Democratic National Convention.

Blagojevich "understood" that the SEIU official was "an emissary to discuss Senate Candidate 1's interest" in the Senate seat. Though just a day after the election, media reports had already identified Jarrett as being interested in the job.
+++
But as the day wore on, Blagojevich continued to discuss the possibility of appointing "Senate Candidate 1" in a series of calls; Blagojevich would stay on as governor and ostensibly run the nonprofit.

"Adviser B" told the governor he liked the Change to Win job best because "from the President-elect's perspective, there would be fewer `fingerprints'" because the union organization was already in existence and fully funded.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Bottom line is -
He and wife were classic underchievers--with ivy league degrees-renters paying off credit card card debt--before being backed by the Illinois crime element--in 6 shorts years we see where he is and wife both are--
Was it that he was extremely lucky and truely so naive he did not know who these people really were-as he states each time one is exposed.
-Or is he part of the Ill corruption--trying to cover his ass time another associate is busted.

We stupid people have some doubts--
Anyone care to give us the "hope-change-yes we can" intellectuals perspective on matter. :)

The Obamas were underchievers ???? maybe they were.... Not because they rented and paid off and used credit cards.... if people in America didn't use credit cards & home equity loans, there would have been NO bush/cheney economy...... DO YOU STILL BELIEVE THE #'S ???? what has the rev wright done accept make his life better and those around him better. he served his country and community....what ever happened to individualism and personal responibility ? there are many out there with mentors/parents/coaches/teachers/siblings that we don't agree with on everything but learned many things from. .. even a person like ayers... Obama has the potential to be a great leader because he has the ability to take from all kinds... WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE HIM DO ? live his life like bush/cheney ? isolate him self from America & what makes the world go round ? You have proven time and again that you have no understanding of the concept of live and let live and ledership by understanding first hand how others feel and think. YOU HAVE NO VALUE OR UNDERSTANDING FOR A INTUITION/ INTELLECT / INSIGHT LIKE OBAMA; WHY CONTINUE TO PROVE THIS WITH YOUR POST ? what did obama and ayers do together against america or anyone ? what did obama and the rev wright conspire against the American People ? The talking points are great but what do they mean ? If ayers is some threath as a terrorist, why isn't he locked up at GITMO with the others that bush/cheney are keeping us safe from ? Was ayers anymore of a terrorist than his countries fed gov and some of the state and local governments that unleashed brutality onto some of it's citizens because of the color of their skin, while the rev wright served that same government honorably ? Maybe it's just me... I may be the only one but.... I think the rev wright has earned the right to his voice, in a country that he has served his whole life... I know you like to point out where he may live and what the fruits of his lablor have granted him.... What is your problem with his and THE Obama's American dream ? These two mens lives are more common of a story in the other of the Two Americas that john edwards talks about... Why all the envy ?
 
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The Obamas were underchievers ???? maybe they were.... Not because they rented and paid off and used credit cards.... if people in America didn't use credit cards & home equity loans, there would have been NO bush/cheney economy...... DO YOU STILL BELIEVE THE #'S ???? what has the rev wright done accept make his life better and those around him better. he served his country and community....what ever happened to individualism and personal responibility ? there are many out there with mentors/parents/coaches/teachers/siblings that we don't agree with on everything but learned many things from. .. even a person like ayers... Obama has the potential to be a great leader because he has the ability to take from all kinds... WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE HIM DO ? live his life like bush/cheney ? isolate him self from America & what makes the world go round ? You have proven time and again that you have no understanding of the concept of live and let live and ledership by understanding first hand how others feel and think. YOU HAVE NO VALUE OR UNDERSTANDING FOR A INTUITION/ INTELLECT / INSIGHT LIKE OBAMA; WHY CONTINUE TO PROVE THIS WITH YOUR POST ? what did obama and ayers do together against america or anyone ? what did obama and the rev wright conspire against the American People ? The talking points are great but what do they mean ? If ayers is some threath as a terrorist, why isn't he locked up at GITMO with the others that bush/cheney are keeping us safe from ? Was ayers anymore of a terrorist than his countries fed gov and some of the state and local governments that unleashed brutality onto some of it's citizens because of the color of their skin, while the rev wright served that same government honorably ? Maybe it's just me... I may be the only one but.... I think the rev wright has earned the right to his voice, in a country that he has served his whole life... I know you like to point out where he may live and what the fruits of his lablor have granted him.... What is your problem with his and THE Obama's American dream ? These two mens lives are more common of a story in the other of the Two Americas that john edwardas takes about... Why all the envy ?
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you magnificent bastid
 

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my oh my-- some never learn
Obama's waves his staff and his sheep keep bleating.

Lets see we've have the change/washington reformer filling his cabinet with Clinton retreads and Chicago politicians and we we still hear
- baaaa baaaa from the oblivious of the obvious (intellectuals)

Axelrod already had to fall on the sword-for Obama's on air :nono:

His chief of staff Emanuel--gone before he's even sworn in.

Attorney General (clinton co-cospiraton on 141 last minute pardons) Holden will be forced to recuse himself when/if sworn in on Blago investigation because of close ties in Obama/Blago/Rezco affair

O to appoint Carol Brown next week as
energy Czar--in case you need a memory booster she's another Clintonite who headed EPA and was caught deleting all the files on computers and after legal battle EPA was held in contempt of court for "systemic file destruction".

---and whats this--has the wall st Journal sniffed out that the un named SEIU union official in sting is Tom Balanoff head of Illinois territory-- would you like to know O's affiliation with him and union--this will be dandy--

--of course I expect you will wave all these off with the rest if O waves that rod and says who you gonna believe--all these other people or the chosen one--to which you will say--

baaaaa baaaaa with a few Mac/Palins thrown in. :)

In case I've missed a few bases you'll have to wait--I've confined my time to five post in political forum a week and will try to direct them to the treads of substance vs opinion when possible--but this thread was too hard to pass on/ had to come to defence of we stupid people per Jabbers and let you intellectuals respond.
Managed to only get a couple from the Liberal Think Tank. With Scott once again being the most profound and comprehensive despite taking two post to get all six words in--
"Mac/palin" and "you magnificent bastid"
:SIB
 

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His chief of staff Emanuel--gone before he's even sworn in.

Attorney General (clinton co-cospiraton on 141 last minute pardons) Holden will be forced to recuse himself when/if sworn in on Blago investigation because of close ties in Obama/Blago/Rezco affair

O to appoint Carol Brown next week as
energy Czar--in case you need a memory booster she's another Clintonite who headed EPA and was caught deleting all the files on computers and after legal battle EPA was held in contempt of court for "systemic file destruction".

---and whats this--has the wall st Journal sniffed out that the un named SEIU union official in sting is Tom Balanoff head of Illinois territory-- would you like to know O's affiliation with him and union--this will be dandy--

--of course I expect you will wave all these off with the rest if O waves that rod and says who you gonna believe--all these other people or the chosen one--to which you will say--

baaaaa baaaaa with a few Mac/Palins thrown in. :)

In case I've missed a few bases you'll have to wait--I've confined my time to five post in political forum a week and will try to direct them to the treads of substance vs opinion when possible--but this thread was too hard to pass on/ had to come to defence of we stupid people per Jabbers and let you intellectuals respond.
Managed to only get a couple from the Liberal Think Tank. With Scott once again being the most profound and comprehensive despite taking two post to get all six words in--
"Mac/palin" and "you magnificent bastid"
:SIB

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Better to get Emanuel out now if he was involved. Dont need that kind of stuff.

Steven Chu is Energy Chief not Carol Brown :shrug: You dont read my threads anymore ?

One thing about O as opposed to current admin.

When Bush found people dirty they lied, stayed, lied, and like Cheney said..... So !

Things are differant. I know that upsets yu.

Seriously though, glad you are not moving to China. Things are bad over there too. No more toys and they go downhill fast. Riots etc.

I think you will end up very pleased after Jan 20
if you can wait that long to give peace a chance.

:SIB
 

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my oh my-- some never learn
Obama's waves his staff and his sheep keep bleating.

Lets see we've have the change/washington reformer filling his cabinet with Clinton retreads and Chicago politicians and we we still hear
- baaaa baaaa from the oblivious of the obvious (intellectuals)

Axelrod already had to fall on the sword-for Obama's on air :nono:

His chief of staff Emanuel--gone before he's even sworn in.

Attorney General (clinton co-cospiraton on 141 last minute pardons) Holden will be forced to recuse himself when/if sworn in on Blago investigation because of close ties in Obama/Blago/Rezco affair

O to appoint Carol Brown next week as
energy Czar--in case you need a memory booster she's another Clintonite who headed EPA and was caught deleting all the files on computers and after legal battle EPA was held in contempt of court for "systemic file destruction".

---and whats this--has the wall st Journal sniffed out that the un named SEIU union official in sting is Tom Balanoff head of Illinois territory-- would you like to know O's affiliation with him and union--this will be dandy--

--of course I expect you will wave all these off with the rest if O waves that rod and says who you gonna believe--all these other people or the chosen one--to which you will say--

baaaaa baaaaa with a few Mac/Palins thrown in. :)

In case I've missed a few bases you'll have to wait--I've confined my time to five post in political forum a week and will try to direct them to the treads of substance vs opinion when possible--but this thread was too hard to pass on/ had to come to defence of we stupid people per Jabbers and let you intellectuals respond.
Managed to only get a couple from the Liberal Think Tank. With Scott once again being the most profound and comprehensive despite taking two post to get all six words in--
"Mac/palin" and "you magnificent bastid"
:SIB

emanuel-gone...obamas-underchievers...axelrod-fell on the sword..... ALL DELUSION ! IS bush a underchiever ? you can back bush & point @ UNDERCHIEVERS ?????? why isn't cheney gone ? who's going to fall on the sword for 911, iraq ,economy, the last 8 yrs ? why sweat the small stuff ? the obama people have not handled this thing right... they should have stated from the start that they made it clear who they wanted as the next sen from ill but that's all .THERE IS NO STORY HERE, WHERE IT MATTERS... THE LOYALIST ON THE RIGHT NEED TO PUT THEIR PEBBLES DOWN AND FALL IN LINE FOR AMERICA. TIME TO BE PATRIOTS !
 
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