Hussein Obamas' pastor "Blacks should not sing "'God Bless America'"

[gardenweasel]

Ted Haggard who said on 60 minutes he had a direct line to the white house and spoke with Bush weekly.

i love the way guys slam dtb for bringing up clinton...then,when theres an issue about obama,you bring up bush.....

and god forbid that anybody mention his middle name,his race,his non-record....i mean,i could see it if he were a MORMON...right,edward?....

who`s the hypocrite?...

so bobby,haggard said that?...did bush say it?...i don`t think so...

so i guess you`re saying he`s "not" bush`s "pastor/mentor" of 20 years as OBAMA`S ALREADY ADMITTED WITH WRIGHT?...

the title of obama`s second book is admittedly a quote from his "mentor",pastor wright......

this is a real problem,guys....and i`m not sure just forcing this a-hole`s retirement or breaking with the church will do obama all that much good..the water`s already under the bridge...

and actually,he`s yet to do that...wright is still on staff,to the best of my knowledge...

he belonged to that church for 20 years, was married by this insane hater, and baptized his kids there...i assume he takes his kids there and wright teaches them this hateful, vile stuff....

"Bill did us, just like he did Monica Lewinsky. He was riding dirty."(this while he`s dry humping in front of a packed audience of morons who are howling like they`re insane)....he blames the gov`t for purposefully giving a.i.d.`s to blacks to promote genocide,is a friend of khaddafi`s and farakhan`s....

"We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye,? Rev. Wright said in a sermon on Sept. 16, 2001.

huh?

in the skewed yuppy/liberal mind blacks are permitted to be hateful racists.....and if you question that your a reverse racist....

nice...real nice..

"god damn america" - just words...

"the chickens came home to roost on 9/11".. - just words

"the gov`t infected the black community with a.i.d.s"....just words

michele obama`s comments are now beginning to make some sense...

 

[BobbyBlueChip]

i love the way guys slam dtb for bringing up clinton...then,when theres an issue about obama,you bring up bush.....

I didn't bring up Bush, I just answered your question

"We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye,? Rev. Wright said in a sermon on Sept. 16, 2001.

huh?.....

Anything here that you disagree with?

in the skewed yuppy/liberal mind blacks are permitted to be hateful racists.....and if you question that your a reverse racist....

I've listened to the video of the hour and didn't hear him say one derogatory comment about the white man. Not saying he hasn't in the past, but this sermon is pretty vanilla :grins:

And, BTW, my pastor of almost 30 years thinks that gays aren't welcome in heaven and also thinks that Jesus Christ himself goes into the host during communion. Not the symbol of God, but actually Jesus himself. And yet I'm able to call him pastor/friend/mentor and not believe those things at all.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

I didn't bring up Bush, I just answered your question



Anything here that you disagree with?



I've listened to the video of the hour and didn't hear him say one derogatory comment about the white man. Not saying he hasn't in the past, but this sermon is pretty vanilla :grins:

And, BTW, my pastor of almost 30 years thinks that gays aren't welcome in heaven and also thinks that Jesus Christ himself goes into the host during communion. Not the symbol of God, but actually Jesus himself. And yet I'm able to call him pastor/friend/mentor and not believe those things at all.

sure you got right video--Bobby
Here's link to fox
http://www.foxnews.com/
on right side of site is top video's
click on O'Reilly: Race hammer in play again link
Note not only preacher but also congregation--
then come back and say you see no prob:0corn

 

[escarzamd]

:0corn

Not for nothing......but the candidate himself seems to be the only one not bringing up race as a club in his bag. Maybe thats just crafty politics and maybe its him truly taking the high road:shrug:

Either way, this thread and the sealed one The hedgehog posted with the video can only be interpreted one way. Racism is alive and well. You guys know who I'm talking about here......the posters that don't engage in dialogue.......the bumper stickers. You guys just eat it up........fear-o-philia.

Yes.....that pastor is a nutty. Yes.....he very well could be referred to as a racist himself. Yes.......the Senator's association w/ him is going to be placed in an unfavorable light in the quest for political gain. Its obvious and dangerous b/c it will bring race to the forefront.....and then its just a lose/lose situation.

I leave you with the thought that the folk who will be doing all the painting of that picture (both sides, mind you) in the future will share some tendencies with the same folk constantly referred to by practitioners of "the politics of fear." Radical practioners of Islam at their root are just racists. No different than the KKK in their "heyday." No different than the Black Panthers, the Nazis, the hardcore Christian evangelicals.......

......maybe the individuals here aren't racists. I believe that most of the time. I think its silly to project the fact that while you may treat or view everyone equally, that everyone else does as well. You've never seen a black, or Mexican for that matter, treated differently than a white? In Texas, by god?!?! We know thats just booolsh!t. We say on one hand we're not racists, then turn around and drone on about how BHO will spearhead a "war" on "White America?" When nothing that he has really said or done points to that besides the fact he goes to this guys church?

The high road is how this guy is gonna win. Every little bit on the news that brings race to the forefront has been a pitch in the dirt; he hasn't taken a single cut at any of them. Nothing in his comportment suggests that he will take that cut. He's smarter than that, which speaks volumes, imho. He's been weak on some of the genuine issues thus far; he's made some rookie campaign mistakes. But, while the band fiddles around with some fringe associations, he gets a freeroll on correcting the mistakes where it counts. Those of you who don't want him to be The President should keep that in mind, and come up with a better way to get your candidate elected.

 

[IntenseOperator]

This pastor is way over the top. Now if Obama refuses to strongly cut ties with him, he deserves the world of shit he's bringing on himself whether it's coming from a hard core right winger or a female Democratic candidate. Obama's f'n up big time here. His high road take on things ain't gonna work with this one. He's gonna totally shit himself if Hillary gets those other two states in.

This pastor also has the feel of a complete attention whore. Maybe to SELL his dvd's. I don't think he cares how much pain this brings the campaign.

Obama in his brilliance should have been shying away from this time bomb many months ago. He consciously decided to "high road" their relationship back then.

Think he may get a rookie lesson here.

 

[IntenseOperator]

Let me ad...

The way this businessman is going, this could get a whole lot worse.

"GMA, HERE I COME! Thank the Lord"

:scared

 

[IntenseOperator]

This is just what the doctor ordered for Hillary's campaign. Wonder if the Super-delegates can read?

?Barack knows what it means living in a country and a culture that is controlled by rich white people,? Wright said. ?Hillary would never know that.

?Hillary ain?t never been called a n igger. Hillary has never had a people defined as a non-person.?

?Hillary is married to Bill, and Bill has been good to us. No he ain?t! Bill did us, just like he did Monica Lewinsky. He was riding dirty.?

 

[JCDunkDogs]

This pastor is way over the top. Now if Obama refuses to strongly cut ties with him, he deserves the world of shit he's bringing on himself...

I disagree. This guy is on the short list for Secretary of Education...he will be an excellent addition to the next administration.

He will join names like Secretary of State Al Sharpton, Secretary of Defense Jessie Jackson, and I'm looking forward to the ceremony for the renaming of the FBI building as the Ike Turner Memorial FBI Building.

 

[escarzamd]

I hear you IO.......I am not nor do I ever even want to be debating the Nuttiness of Jeremiah (my new funk-soul fusion band!)......I agree BHO should begin to distance himself from these stances.

How? Fawk if I know. Probably doesn't even have to try. I sure don't see any of this as a favor to Hillary. Every time you tie the race card to this campaign, someone has to get the hell out of the picture. Its this year's third-rail. This kook can keep dancin' around the dais, spewing his bile, perpetuating his self-created characature.........this bizarre hybrid of Jesse/Al/Louie/WannaBe MLK....and we can call him militant, dangerous, paradoxically hurtful to his stated cause......and if its brought up, even in a legitamate fashion, then all you have to do is say "racist" and whoever said it just disappears. Fair? Probably not, but thats the game. Everybody knows it. BHO sure as hell knows, so the high road it is.......so silly, convoluted, and manipulative that it just has to true:shrug:

 

[Keith 1]

renaming of the FBI building as the Ike Turner Memorial FBI Building.

LOL

Ike gets no credit (cause of that wife-beating thing), but he was one of the pioneers of blues rock-n-roll. He did Rocket 88 in the very early 50's which is considered by many historians to be the first rock 'n roll record. Extremely talented musician. Laurence Fishburne killed him.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

I hear you IO.......I am not nor do I ever even want to be debating the Nuttiness of Jeremiah (my new funk-soul fusion band!)......I agree BHO should begin to distance himself from these stances.

How? Fawk if I know. Probably doesn't even have to try. I sure don't see any of this as a favor to Hillary. Every time you tie the race card to this campaign, someone has to get the hell out of the picture. Its this year's third-rail. This kook can keep dancin' around the dais, spewing his bile, perpetuating his self-created characature.........this bizarre hybrid of Jesse/Al/Louie/WannaBe MLK....and we can call him militant, dangerous, paradoxically hurtful to his stated cause......and if its brought up, even in a legitamate fashion, then all you have to do is say "racist" and whoever said it just disappears. Fair? Probably not, but thats the game. Everybody knows it. BHO sure as hell knows, so the high road it is.......so silly, convoluted, and manipulative that it just has to true:shrug:

Theres no doubt he will have to distance himself-the question is can he--when you hang with someone weekly for twenty years--call your him your mentor/uncle--then run for pres and denouce it-- which do you weigh more--his voting record in Ill--20 years of association--or a political campaign.
I have my 1st golf match of year Monday with group that is all black except myself--and am looking forward to their take on this issue.
In watching video was more put off by congregation than the rantings of the rev.
Haven't seen anything as rabid since Daily Kos convention.
Would agree Doc--racism is stil very much a part of our society--but the PC crowd only tout one side of it.

 

[Tenzing]

I was in a hurry

I was in a hurry

But I'm sure that those "centrists", thanks Haskell, who see this stuff will dis-associate from Husseins' campaign.

I love how when you "centrists" (good one) say one thing yet do another in the next paragraph, and our astute readers see it right away, it's not hypocracy, but if any "non-centrist" read: right-winger, does so, it is a violation of so many commandments, that all hell is 'bout to bust forth.

Sigh.

Look Hussein Obama is a radical Muslim extremist. I know 0 persons who are Lutherans, named Chandrabitnamanditya, just as I know no Jains named John Herbert Smith. He grew up studying advanced Muslim concepts, in a school designed to teach advanced Muslim concepts, in the largest Islamist nation on earth, Indonesia. The church he attends, Trinity, IS A VEHICLE FOR LEWIS FARAKHAN, AN AVOWED ISLAMIC RADICAL, WHO WANTS A PURELY MUSLIM WORLD.

I'm aware of who Hussein is, he associates with http://www.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs/757340,CST-NWS-watchdog24.article Rezko and other corrupt Chicago politicians. period. He's going to be indicted soon and that will be the end of Husseins little run.

The leftists had control of congress for 46+ STRAIGHT years after WWII, and could have ramrodded any piece of legislation they wanted. Don't blame "Bush" coz you guys didn't know that health care costs money, and can never be truly free.

 

[escarzamd]

.

Sigh.

Look Hussein Obama is a radical Muslim extremist. I know 0 persons who are Lutherans, named Chandrabitnamanditya, just as I know no Jains named John Herbert Smith. He grew up studying advanced Muslim concepts, in a school designed to teach advanced Muslim concepts, in the largest Islamist nation on earth, Indonesia. The church he attends, Trinity, IS A VEHICLE FOR LEWIS FARAKHAN, AN AVOWED ISLAMIC RADICAL, WHO WANTS A PURELY MUSLIM WORLD.

I'm aware of who Hussein is, he associates with http://www.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs/757340,CST-NWS-watchdog24.article Rezko and other corrupt Chicago politicians. period. He's going to be indicted soon and that will be the end of Husseins little run.

The leftists had control of congress for 46+ STRAIGHT years after WWII, and could have ramrodded any piece of legislation they wanted. Don't blame "Bush" coz you guys didn't know that health care costs money, and can never be truly free.

I think I just got dumber reading this. The last graph doesn't even make any freakin' sense related to the thread:shrug:

mage n.
A magician or sorcerer.


.......just in case anyone had the term confused with "scholar" or "prophet."

 

[kosar]

Look Hussein Obama is a radical Muslim extremist.

:mj07:

Oh my.

 

[redsfann]

I think I just got dumber reading this. The last graph doesn't even make any freakin' sense related to the thread:shrug:

mage n.
A magician or sorcerer.


.......just in case anyone had the term confused with "scholar" or "prophet."

I KNOW I got dumber reading this...

 

[Eddie Haskell]

American people can get very frightened over very trivial things.

Kennedy was a Catholic therfore the Pope was going to run the country

Romney was a Mormon therefore he believed in aliens or what have you, multiple wives and that Jesus was a Bills fan

Obama has a preacher who ain't too fond of whitey and therefore is going to enslave the white male and charge wall street for a couple of hundred years of enslavement

McCain welcomes the endorsement of some fat slob televangilist who hates Catholics, loves Jews and Israel that endorses the killing of muslims

I mean really each side can go on and on and on. Every day there are a kabillion reasons why John Lennon was right when he sang "imagine no religion"

How many people have died and will die in the name of God. Politics and religion do not, nor will they ever mix. McCain wants the 19k votes from fatty's church yet he don't want to lose any Catholic vote (although his choice position doesn't help him there). Obama wants to keep his black vote yet doesn't want to alienate any white voters.

Jezul, look at the person not the priest.

Ed

 

[kosar]

American people can get very frightened over very trivial things.

Kennedy was a Catholic therfore the Pope was going to run the country

Romney was a Mormon therefore he believed in aliens or what have you, multiple wives and that Jesus was a Bills fan

Obama has a preacher who ain't too fond of whitey and therefore is going to enslave the white male and charge wall street for a couple of hundred years of enslavement

McCain welcomes the endorsement of some fat slob televangilist who hates Catholics, loves Jews and Israel that endorses the killing of muslims

I mean really each side can go on and on and on. Every day there are a kabillion reasons why John Lennon was right when he sang "imagine no religion"

How many people have died and will die in the name of God. Politics and religion do not, nor will they ever mix. McCain wants the 19k votes from fatty's church yet he don't want to lose any Catholic vote (although his choice position doesn't help him there). Obama wants to keep his black vote yet doesn't want to alienate any white voters.

Jezul, look at the person not the priest.

Ed

Sing it, sista!

Seriously, very good post. (Doc's too)

This post will be dismissed by certain 'factions,' but there is no denying that religion has been at the root of almost every war since the start of time.

I would be happy to discuss this with anyone that disagrees with the above.

It's not even a question.

 

[buddy]

I mean really each side can go on and on and on. Every day there are a kabillion reasons why John Lennon was right when he sang "imagine no religion"

There is also one very powerful reason why Lennon was wrong when he wrote "imagine no religion". It's because of man's sinful nature.

"Imagine" was released on Sept. 9, 1971

In 1972, Lennon wrote a letter to Oral Roberts asking him to "Explain to me what Christianity can do for me. Is it phoney? Can He love me? I want out of hell."

The above excerpt is taken from the book "The Gospel According To The Beatles."

 

[buddy]

Politics and religion do not, nor will they ever mix.

Some might say this is because they are embroiled in a war and one will inevitably defeat the other. One promotes a president and a democracy. The other proclaims a King and His Kingdom. Some may also say one is losing clout while the other is gaining momentum and growing in numbers.

 

[IntenseOperator]

I don't think this has a thing to do with religion.

This wouldn't be a as much of a plus for Hillary, as it would be a negative for Obama. He loses ground either way.

What I hear this businessman saying is that I am to blame. Or that I am a negative. That what I am is a negative. He's intentionally being very outspoken and directly attacking the world I live and work in and those around me.

Has nothing to do with religion or anything I've heard in the past from candidates religious backrounds.

I'm not responsible for all this guy and Obama hate about America. I got a feeling many will take this stance.

Rightly or wrongly, it will finally give many a handle on somebody they haven't had a position on if not only because it really has nothing to do with race or religion. It's a frontal attack on every person that doesn't agree. Obama agrees.

Stupid move