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...and the Velasquez I saw last night wasn't impressive...

He'd have ZERO chance against any legitimate HW contender, ZERO...
 

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Yeah, greedy Dana? Own medicine?....

You're dumb for thinking that...

Dana's job is to run the UFC...some people still fail to understand the business side. Why? because a majority of MMA fans now are spoiled because they didn't have to put up with the shit that some of us die hard fans did over the years...they'll never understand....

Dana's job is to run the UFC? No shit, Sherlock. Dana didn't want Cro-Cop if he came out and looked like shit, so he hired him for 1 fight only, wanting him for more if he looked good. Cro Cop, believe it or not, has a business of his own to run and he played Dana for his own interests. Did you fail to see that?

Thanks for your input "diehard".
 

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How does Cro Cop losing to a undefeated and considered top rank Cain hurt him when he is headed to Dream either way?
Dream WOULD never deny Crop Cop from coming back into their league. Have you seen there cards??
What if he would have lost to Al Turk because there was a better chance of that than him beatign Cain.
 

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...and the Velasquez I saw last night wasn't impressive...

He'd have ZERO chance against any legitimate HW contender, ZERO...

I am pretty sure you are not saying Cro Cop is a legit HW these days are you? BECAUSE HE IS NOT.

I do agree there are plenty of HW's that would have little issues with Cain right now.
 

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Dana's job is to run the UFC? No shit, Sherlock. Dana didn't want Cro-Cop if he came out and looked like shit, so he hired him for 1 fight only, wanting him for more if he looked good. Cro Cop, believe it or not, has a business of his own to run and he played Dana for his own interests. Did you fail to see that?

Thanks for your input "diehard".

Yep, and guys like you are the reason why ELITEXC turned out how it did...

Thanks for your input n00b...
 

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I am pretty sure you are not saying Cro Cop is a legit HW these days are you? BECAUSE HE IS NOT.

I do agree there are plenty of HW's that would have little issues with Cain right now.

I think Cro Cop is still a legit HW...

If you think about the style of him vs Velasquez, what makes you think Cro Cop would lose??...

Guy still has great takedown defense and Cain couldn't punch himself out of a wet paper bag...
 

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mirko denies having signed with dream. it'll take a while before we know what happened but dana jumps the gun a lot.

and dana's claim that mirko ducked cain seems a little weak.

mirko reported on may 15 that he was fighting al turk.

herring pulled out of his fight with cain on may 19.

kongo replaced herring on may 20.

it's possible that dana requested that mirko take herring's spot, but mirko had already agreed to fight al turk.
 

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I think Cro Cop is still a legit HW...

If you think about the style of him vs Velasquez, what makes you think Cro Cop would lose??...

Guy still has great takedown defense and Cain couldn't punch himself out of a wet paper bag...

Cain would beat the dog crat out of CroCop. Rowdy, he may not have looked good against Kongo but you can't forget that he's one of the best to ever come into the UFC at wrestling. Crocop hasn't faced someone with the takedown skills that Cain has.
 

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I think Cro Cop is still a legit HW...

If you think about the style of him vs Velasquez, what makes you think Cro Cop would lose??...

Guy still has great takedown defense and Cain couldn't punch himself out of a wet paper bag...

Cro Cop of 3 years ago would have done well with Cain. Cro Cop is nowhere near today what he was 3 years ago.
Crop Cop looked like crap in loss to Kongo and Overeem kicked Cro Cop's testies up into his throat(literally) before No Contest.
Cro Cop doesn't even throw that many kicks anymore.:shrug:
I think the leg injury from the Gonzaga fight has ruined him.
 

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Cro Cop throws a kick. Cain catches it and takes him down and pounds the shit out of him every round. End of story
 

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Roy Nelson is going to be tough to get past. He stuck around with Monson and Arlovski so I am not sure who in this bunch will be able to KO him.
And I am not sure how they claim this is only 249lbs:
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And Wes Sims has a nice all around game,but a very soft chin.
 
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One thing is for sure. There are some dicks with egos in this house:
Sims,Nelson,Kimbo,and Wessel are gonna clash in this house more than likely.
 

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UFC 101(I think anyway) Ricardo Almeida will be my biggest play of this year so far. I've looked at it all I can and I just think it's an easy fight for Almeida. Grove won't have the strength to stop him and doesn't have the striking power to worry Almeida. I haven't had a really big play in a while so I'm nervous but it looks good, hopefully it feels good to. :mj07:
 
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