Making a Murderer (2015)
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Is it just me or does Dean Strang sound like Saul Goodman??
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Im extremely confident he was conspired against in the alleged sexual assault arrest and prosecution based on information provided in the 1st 2 episodes
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I hearya. Had this conversation last night. The sketch looking like Averys dated mugshot is hard for me to get past.
Let's be clear. You're saying none of this was set up. Avery is 100% guilty. The documentary film crew used "creative" editing and what's presented is 100% distorted.
Much of the counter points that are being presented were originated from the defense attorney who is arguing his point on Reddit. And nobody's quoting him.
There are some things that i think that they should have shown and didn't, but the directors have bias to get their product sold and the fact that they were imbedded in with the family.
But, you should watch the show and form your own opinion. It's worth it.
What do u think about the sketch artist? That dude looks like a criminal thru 2 episodes.
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Just finished episode 10. Pretty interesting watch. I just can't see how Steve and his dipshit nephew are capable of cleaning up evidence, but that's me. I know they had 5 days, but they could have 5 years and probably miss something.
That Brendan kid gained 100 lbs easy his first year in prison. I guess prison food isn't that bad.
Anyone know what happened to Jodi, or at least if she's still single? She's my kind of lady.
That Brendan kid gained 100 lbs easy his first year in prison. I guess prison food isn't that bad.
Anyone know what happened to Jodi, or at least if she's still single? She's my kind of lady.
YYZ, I just looked at some of the stuff including an interview with the prosecuting attorney. He called at 4 something and didn't use *67 but isn't it just speculation as to why he called? Some people are saying he called so he could say she never showed up but that's all speculations by tv watchers.
FYI, I'm not on either side of the innocent or guilty. I do find a lot of valid reasons for both sides though.
FYI, I'm not on either side of the innocent or guilty. I do find a lot of valid reasons for both sides though.
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My mother is "one million percent sure" that he did it. She thinks the kid had something to do with it, but forcefully.
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http://www.avclub.com/article/read-pro-steven-avery-list-what-was-left-out-makin-230634
Since the documentary left so that made the defense look bad xstop
Dean Strang recalled that one of the investigators involved in finding DNA under the hood of Halbach?s car admitted to not changing gloves after handling evidence inside her car. [source]
Culhane testified that the amount of Avery?s DNA on Halbach?s hood latch (which could have been blood) was very small, similar to what you would get from rubbing Avery?s toothbrush on it, or from the unchanged gloves of the tech who handled blood evidence inside the car and then touched the hood. [source]
Blaine Dassey testified that his brother, Bobby, was asleep when he got home from school around 3:40 p.m., contradicting Bobby?s testimony that he got up at 2:30 p.m. and saw Teresa headed toward Steven?s trailer. [source]
Dean Strang stated they had a forensic anthropologist at trial who testified that an open fire wouldn?t have generated enough heat to burn a body in the way that those bones were destroyed, but it didn?t make the documentary. [source]
In between 3:30 and 4 p.m., a propane delivery truck driver (John Leurquin) saw a green SUV leaving the Avery property but couldn?t identify the driver or if it was a male or female. He delivers propane for Valders Co-op. Usually fuels up near Avery property at 3:30 for about half an hour. [source]
Teresa Halbach?s clothing: ?Police said she was wearing blue jeans, a white button-down shirt and a summer jacket when she was last seen. Schmitz would indicate that Halbach was at his residence at approximately 1:30 p.m. Was there for approximately 10 minutes. Was wearing a white shirt, waist?waist-length jacket, and blue jeans. (Day 4 of Dassey Trial.) Zipperer would indicate that Halbach was at her residence between approximately 2 to 2:30 p.m. Was there for approximately 10 minutes. Was wearing a white top, waist-length jacket, and blue jeans. (Day 4 of Dassey Trial.) Bobby Dassey said when he saw Teresa Halbach photographing the van Avery was selling October 31, 2005, she was wearing a knee-length coat and slacks.? [source 1, 2]
William Newhouse, a gun expert with the Wisconsin State Crime Lab, said he couldn?t conclusively link a bullet found in a crack in Avery?s garage to a .22-caliber rifle seized from his bedroom. (He could only confirm that it was definitely a bullet from a .22 caliber rifle.) There was no DNA on the gun, no blood blow-back that you?d get from shooting someone at that close range and no blood mist/spatter around the garage that would also be present had someone been shot in the garage. [source]
On the ?Kelly Files? interview, Dean Strang mentioned that there were little drops off deer blood all over Avery?s garage, essentially debunking the theory that they could have cleaned all the blood evidence out of the garage, since had they cleaned it that thoroughly, there wouldn?t have been any deer blood. [source]
On the leg irons/handcuffs from Avery?s house: They tested those for DNA and found a mixture of DNA from two or more people. They confirmed Avery to be a source of one of the matches. Most importantly, they excluded Teresa?s DNA as a match. [source]
Investigators never dusted the Toyota key (with Steven?s DNA) for fingerprints. [source]
Since the documentary left so that made the defense look bad xstop
Dean Strang recalled that one of the investigators involved in finding DNA under the hood of Halbach?s car admitted to not changing gloves after handling evidence inside her car. [source]
Culhane testified that the amount of Avery?s DNA on Halbach?s hood latch (which could have been blood) was very small, similar to what you would get from rubbing Avery?s toothbrush on it, or from the unchanged gloves of the tech who handled blood evidence inside the car and then touched the hood. [source]
Blaine Dassey testified that his brother, Bobby, was asleep when he got home from school around 3:40 p.m., contradicting Bobby?s testimony that he got up at 2:30 p.m. and saw Teresa headed toward Steven?s trailer. [source]
Dean Strang stated they had a forensic anthropologist at trial who testified that an open fire wouldn?t have generated enough heat to burn a body in the way that those bones were destroyed, but it didn?t make the documentary. [source]
In between 3:30 and 4 p.m., a propane delivery truck driver (John Leurquin) saw a green SUV leaving the Avery property but couldn?t identify the driver or if it was a male or female. He delivers propane for Valders Co-op. Usually fuels up near Avery property at 3:30 for about half an hour. [source]
Teresa Halbach?s clothing: ?Police said she was wearing blue jeans, a white button-down shirt and a summer jacket when she was last seen. Schmitz would indicate that Halbach was at his residence at approximately 1:30 p.m. Was there for approximately 10 minutes. Was wearing a white shirt, waist?waist-length jacket, and blue jeans. (Day 4 of Dassey Trial.) Zipperer would indicate that Halbach was at her residence between approximately 2 to 2:30 p.m. Was there for approximately 10 minutes. Was wearing a white top, waist-length jacket, and blue jeans. (Day 4 of Dassey Trial.) Bobby Dassey said when he saw Teresa Halbach photographing the van Avery was selling October 31, 2005, she was wearing a knee-length coat and slacks.? [source 1, 2]
William Newhouse, a gun expert with the Wisconsin State Crime Lab, said he couldn?t conclusively link a bullet found in a crack in Avery?s garage to a .22-caliber rifle seized from his bedroom. (He could only confirm that it was definitely a bullet from a .22 caliber rifle.) There was no DNA on the gun, no blood blow-back that you?d get from shooting someone at that close range and no blood mist/spatter around the garage that would also be present had someone been shot in the garage. [source]
On the ?Kelly Files? interview, Dean Strang mentioned that there were little drops off deer blood all over Avery?s garage, essentially debunking the theory that they could have cleaned all the blood evidence out of the garage, since had they cleaned it that thoroughly, there wouldn?t have been any deer blood. [source]
On the leg irons/handcuffs from Avery?s house: They tested those for DNA and found a mixture of DNA from two or more people. They confirmed Avery to be a source of one of the matches. Most importantly, they excluded Teresa?s DNA as a match. [source]
Investigators never dusted the Toyota key (with Steven?s DNA) for fingerprints. [source]
Anonymous (hacker group) said that they have new hacked information about this case.
Anything about that? They were upposed to publish that information last week.
If Avery didn't know Halbach went missing why did he stop calling on her phone ?
:shrug:
Anything about that? They were upposed to publish that information last week.
If Avery didn't know Halbach went missing why did he stop calling on her phone ?
:shrug:
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I'm just waiting for yyz to chime in and tell us that because we didn't live there we don't know anything :0002
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