michigan's new coach

[Irish]

CWood
Don't get me wrong I think he will improve the Wolverine offense and get some fantastic recruits in ann arbor but I don't think he is a valued game planner. He has done great things in WV, don't get me wrong but again its the big east. Remember the two best teams in the big east split for the ACC years ago. Still I think he did a great job getting speed into the WVU offense and it has made a huge difference. That being said you don't think RR has anything to do with Whites injuries? The kid weights in at a buck 50 in pads and he carries the ball more often than not into a hit. Also I think it should be pointed out that White and slayton fumble a ton and that is something Rod cannot control but perhaps running drills on ball control would help and he does not work those two in that fashion. All facts considered he is a good coach but you have to admit that since he has made more money his approach has changed and it has effected his game planning first and his ability to adapt second. I am not saying he will fail, I think it is a good fit. I will be interested to see how his system adapts.

I personally became a little put off by the way he coached in the bigger games in his past few seasons. I though he was a good fit in WV and I am interested to see what Mnich looks like in 2 to 3 years.

Cheers
Irish

 

[ELVIS]

he is better than miles..........

 

[LA Burns]

he is better than miles..........

Regardless of his shortcomings this is one thing that can't be denied!

 

[Sun Tzu]

Did you see that interview with Gump?

Sure seemed like a guy that was bummed he wasnt going to Michigan.But for the stupidity of the bCS system (and the ineptness of Eric Ainge) Gump would be in Ann Arbor.

If they lose to OSU he may jump off the highest building he can find.

 

[LA Burns]

ST,

Saw the interview and almost mentioned it in my post - he was definitely about to tie RR for the lead in 2007 public crying

Funny that LSU could have been rid of Miles and RR would still be a 'Neer if WVU could have just won as a 4 TD fave - somebody mentioned that they can't blame RR for an injury to P White's thumb - THEY WERE A 28.5 PT FAVE!!!!!!! - I'd like to think an adjustment could have been made to simply win the game and get to the NC!!!!!!!

But no, we're still stuck with Gump and UM got their man

 

[CWood97]

I can tell you guys with 100% confidence that Miles is and I quote "devastated". He thought all along he would to go to UM after the BCS title game. This was going to happen until the "press release" was issued. LSU wrote that but Les could have refused to back it. He did and that was the last straw for UM. Miles actually tried to have a meeting with Mary Sue Coleman (UM President) once his agent heard last Wednesday that UM was talking with RR. She refused.

Probably the two most influential plays on UM football's next 10 years: Pat White dislocating his thumb and Ainge throwing that pick six vs LSU. If either doesn't happen Miles is at UM and there's probably a good chance RR is at LSU.

 

[Toledo Prophet]

Kind off both on and off topic here. There has been a lot of discussion about RR stepping up from the BE to th Big 10. A lot of negative comments saying 'yeah RR did that, but that was in the BE, lets see him do it the Big 10," as an example. But is the Big 10 really any better than Big East. If we did head to heads based on the standings, would the Big 10 even win the "challenge." Lets assume these hypotheticals are played ona neutral field.

OSU vs WVA
Illini vs Uconn
USF vs UM
Cincy vs Wisco
Rut vs Penn St

I think the Big East could easily go 3-2 in those matchups.

L'ville vs IU, MSU, PU, Iowa.

Theres a logjam in the Big 10 standings there, but Lville, a team that failed to qualify for a bowl would, I think, go 2-2, in those games.

That leaves Pitt and Scuse....Pitt could hold their own against the bottom half of the Big 10, which includes some of the above teams....but Scuse, well they suck.

Any thoughts.....i guess I just dont think that as of today, the Big 10 is 'oh my god' why better than the big east.

 

[CWood97]

Assuming all teams are 100% healthy I can't see the B10 going worse than 4-1 in those game.

 

[Deezeldogg]

Assuming all teams are 100% healthy I can't see the B10 going worse than 4-1 in those game.

I agree.

 

[Toledo Prophet]

While I respectfully enjoy both your opinions, I do feel like it would be closer......Rutgers-PSU is a toss up in my mind. Rutgers would so fired up to take a stab at PSU now that they're football team is finally good that I think that emotion pushes them to victory. Can UM's offensive line handle the heat of USF. They could not block Ghoulston, could they block Selvie....plus they have a pair of corners who can really matchup w/ AA and MM.....I think Cincy can take Wisco. Shoot they beat them in 1999 when they werent as big of a program. I know thats weak logic, but no reason to think Cincy, especially considering they rolled Oreg St this year could not handle Wisco in a nuetral setting.

I am a big 10 fan....i would want them to win this series, but I think it could go 3-2 either way.

CWood, you said it in an earlier post that RR is going to a league with only marginally more talent....thats what got me thinking about these hypotheticals.....little surprised you're so sure it would 4-1.....but then again, maybe I am going out of way to disprove the theory that RR is stepping into so much of a higher league that he cant run his system....that I think is a bad argument to make and maybe I am trying to prove that by using another bad argument.

 

[CWood97]

TP, I think the point I was trying to make is that if you remove OSU and UM from the equation the Big East isn't much different than the B10.

I believe that RR's system will work fine against ND and the rest of the B10. He will be successful in the B10. The measuring stick, as it always is for UM (and OSU), will be THE game. No one can say with any degree of certainty how RR will perform in that game but I would bet the farm he will fare much better against Tressel than Lloyd has. Do I think we're looking at another period of domination for either side? Nope, don't see it. I see RR and tVest headed for another "ten year war". Should be a lot of fun.

 

[Toledo Prophet]

TP, I think the point I was trying to make is that if you remove OSU and UM from the equation the Big East isn't much different than the B10.

I believe that RR's system will work fine against ND and the rest of the B10. He will be successful in the B10. The measuring stick, as it always is for UM (and OSU), will be THE game. No one can say with any degree of certainty how RR will perform in that game but I would bet the farm he will fare much better against Tressel than Lloyd has. Do I think we're looking at another period of domination for either side? Nope, don't see it. I see RR and tVest headed for another "ten year war". Should be a lot of fun.

Cwood,
I certainly agree w/ you there....lastly on the BE vs big10....i think this year as been a dip for the big10 and a peak for the BigE, more reason why this year that "challenge" might be closer.

Hard to believe that its been over 20 years since the UM-OSU rivalry was even....from 1985 to 2000 it went 12-3-1 for UM and from 2001 to present day 6-1 for OSU....from 1969 to 1984, though, is was basically even, and I do think we're heading back into a more even direction than one-sided dominance either way.

I've read some commentary from columnists and such who doubted RR could run his system in the Big 10.....and if his teams could withstand the physical prowess of this country....Valenti spent a lot of time on his radio program yesterday doubting the hire, as an example, and he made both the above points....i am sure you would have a thought or two on Mr Valenti's commentary......maybe he ought to just MAKE PLAYS!!!! :142smilie

 

[bjfinste]

Assuming all teams are 100% healthy I can't see the B10 going worse than 4-1 in those game.

Health obviously being the key, I agree as well. I'd give WVU a slight edge over OSU with both teams at full strength. But Michigan and Wisconsin at 100 percent would have a relatively easy time with those games in my humble opinion, Illinois would smoke UConn and I think Penn State gets a win there as well.

 

[ageecee]

nobody wants to talk about RR anymore?