NBA WED 032509 early thoughts - value hunting (NO PICKS INSIDE)

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Also does anyone find it odd that DEN/PHO 228.5 have not had a total this high in there last 10 games. and have gone over that same number only 2 times in those 10 games and one of them was OT.

Another game worth a look IMO

Sorry PHO/UTH @ 228.5 is what I meant
 

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How's business? Man, such a shame...I guess it's just a difference in business philosophies...please send him my very best wishes...I hold no ill will...although I don't agree with his current chosen profession :cool:

is he selling picks now? I didn't know that -mentioned nothing to me in emails
 

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Yesterday, Chump was on both doggies

Today, he's chalkin' it up

San Diego St. -3
Under 128
Stanford -3
Under 128.5
 

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Just a little something for those looking at the MIL/TOR total ... just wanted to throw it out there:

The ref crew is Mike Callahan, Zach Zarba and Eric Lewis. They are a combined 85-56 O/U this season, 20-14 when the posted total is 195-204.5.

The average total in games worked by Callahan, Zarba and Lewis is 201,199.7 and 200 respectively.
 

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This is the whole thing...the last piece is really what you want...

PHI this season on a true on the road b2b where both games are away from home

0-4 SU losing by an average of 9 points


lost by 10 against ORL 11/06
lost by 2 SAS 1/3
lost by 15 OKC 3/8
lost by 10 PHO 3/18

Portland this season hosting a team on the tail end of a true road b2b

10-2 SU winning by an average of 9 points

but don't be fooled by this...take a close look

MIN won by 4 11/08
CHI won by 42 11/19
SAC won by 1 11/24
NOH won by 15 11/28
ORL lost by -1 12/09
TOR won by 13 12/27
CHA won by 14 1/28
OKC won by 14 2/11
MEM won by 4 2/18
IND won by 2 3/4
MIN won by 2 3/7
DAL lost by -4 3/11

that 42 point wins masks the reality and skews this average win number. given today's number of -7, they would only be 5-7 ATS in these SU wins.

All I'm saying is be careful before you unload on this game. This season in the NBA, teams coming off a long road trip of at least 5 games have been caught with their pants down on their first home game back. Sure SU is 20-10 but they are only winning by an average of 3 points. ATS is 16-13-1 with an average line of -3 and failing to cover this small number by simply winning by 3 (push).

Just be careful since I'm seeing a lot of excitement for POR here. First game back is a big letdown spot.

Saw this article on sport betting fables - here is one part:
Fable #1: Play against teams that have just returned home from a long road trip!

Teams that go out on the road for an extended period of time surely must not be focused in their first game back in their home city. I have heard people say that upon returning home, the players must be busy taking care of paying bills, going to the grocery store, having a rendezvous with the wife and/or girl friend, just about anything you can imagine that would help them have a letdown in that first game on their home court.

Since the beginning of the 2005 season, I looked at the results of teams in their first home game after a 4, 5, and 6 game road trip. At six games away, the result set was getting small so I did not look at longer road trips. I was encouraged when I found a small favorable trend to play against these teams back from a four-game road trip. It wasn?t earth shattering, but it was a 54.2% ATS edge, 77-65. Even more exciting at the first road trip I looked at was that there was a better trend in playing the Over in this situation, 83-60, 58.0%. If I get those type of results on a four-game trip, certainly the longer trips? results will be even better!

Nope, the results were as bland as most English foods. In fact, instead of playing against our returning team, the result set favored playing on them! Squads back from a five-game trip were 44-41 ATS and virtually exactly .500 OU. Six-games on the road didn?t have a negative effect on teams as they went 23-20 ATS in their first game home and 20-24 OU.

Obviously, it pays to know how many games away from home your team?s trip entailed.
 

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Yesterday, Chump was on both doggies

Today, he's chalkin' it up

San Diego St. -3
Under 128
Stanford -3
Under 128.5


Exactly what I have, SDST might be tight on the side but the under is hugely solid, Stanford has 2 losses to Ore ST this year, but have played superbly in the tourney thus far on the road while Oreg ST has skated by in their 2 games. Under Pac 10 games is true form as Ore will have hard time putting 50 on the board.

4 solid plays there, imo, worst case scenario is 3-1 :mj06:
 

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Just a little something for those looking at the MIL/TOR total ... just wanted to throw it out there:

The ref crew is Mike Callahan, Zach Zarba and Eric Lewis. They are a combined 85-56 O/U this season, 20-14 when the posted total is 195-204.5.

The average total in games worked by Callahan, Zarba and Lewis is 201,199.7 and 200 respectively.

Thanks, didn't get around to that...but the 195-204.5 range is a bit skewed. Callahan is 7-1 O/U and the other two are each exactly .500 split. Still not the best crew.

Thank you for this.
 

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Obviously, it pays to know how many games away from home your team?s trip entailed.

Nice Ools...The query I ran was for this season only and actually got a boost when PHI manhandle POR MON. But I did run it for exactly 5 road games. I'm not sure what the numbers would be other than 5. I wonder how the numbers would come out for DD home favs. I see the line already dropped to single digits in the MIN/PHI side.

Thanks pal.
 

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Thank you

I have NO PLAY on the unders for either game. I am partial to the MIN side. Scroll up and you'll see why.

My five dogs are all wieners...hot dogs if you will. Those are disparaging names for them and they are easily insulted. They are Dachshunds that rule my entire home. Damn place is crawling with them. I'm on the couch in my office now and there's 3 of them on here with me. The other two are causing trouble somewhere I'm sure.

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Ax, we have a wiener dog as well. Stubborn as hell I might add, but my wife loves her to death.
 

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Thanks, didn't get around to that...but the 195-204.5 range is a bit skewed. Callahan is 7-1 O/U and the other two are each exactly .500 split. Still not the best crew.

Thank you for this.

Ax, are you still looking at the under for this game or are you thinking of buying it back?
 

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ax, what are your thoughts on new jersey +12 vs cleveland? cleveland has not won a game by over 10 points for a while now, and also have not been able to cover at home. what are your thoughts on this game?
 

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AXP .. with you on the T-Wolves ..

AXP .. with you on the T-Wolves ..

Good luck!
 

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As for Turc, and he maybe a great Tout worthy of your $$ and a nice guy.

Bet your own plays make money that way, hit 2 out of 3 and make a load. Why Tout!
 

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Ax, are you still looking at the under for this game or are you thinking of buying it back?

I tried to find reasons why this goes over and the trends I'm finding are reinforcing my play or neutral. I'm going to wait for the rest of the pub (lest coast) to have their say and buy at an even better number.
Had I waited for DET last night, it would have been a hit. I got it early at O191. Everyone else I know here pushed or cashed. Tboss got out of work late, saw the play here and jumped on-board @O189.5 i think. Came in here congratulating me but I missed out.
:shrug:
No buying this back for me to answer your question.
 

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I have a question for the forum.How much do you trust your sources for public betting percentages. Assuming that the original source ,even from a supposedly disinterested 3rd party, presumably must be a bookmaking establishment of some kind. There are various polls around but they may just represent some cavalier conjectures rather than actual betting. Also does the source delineate between amount of bets and betting dollar amounts?
I tend to reference several disparate sites with widely disparate results, some of which appear ridiculous on the face of it[example 96 per cent]. I can't shake the feeling that a lot of what comes to us over the net is being fed to us by the same source that we are trying to use it to gain advantage over. Seems there would be a conflict of interest there.
 
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