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Joshnaudi, to answer your questions:

Did Mutallab and the Dapper Don appear to know each other?

That is hard to say. They approached the counter together, but never spoke to each other. Mutallab never talked at all. So I am not sure.

Did they chit chat at all while this was going on?

No

Did Mutallab do any talking or did he stand there and listen the whole time?

I still, to this day, have never heard him talk. He stood there, backed away from the counter a few feet and acted fidgety.
 

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Pug,

Very interesting but yet not suprising stuff coming from our "Shadow Government" I have finishe listening to 20 mins. of the AJ show from sunday and having him tie things together.

Keep your head down and your powder dry
 
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LOL. I am still alive. I've been posting updates on Lori's blog if you guys are interested in following what is going on.
 
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I'm suprised no one bumped this after Anwar al-Awlaki was killed. After all, they said he was a force behind this attempted failed plot.

Very scary experience to say the least.
 

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Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab Pleads Guilty.

Interesting that he allowed the prosecution to begin the case and then plead guilty mid way through.

You got any thoughts Pug that you want to share outside of your blog?

Hope you don't mind
http://haskellfamily.blogspot.com/

Thursday, October 06, 2011
Looks Like I'll Be A Witness For The Defense In The Underwear Bomber Case
by Kurt Haskell

Today was the day for final jury selection in the Underwear Bomber case. I watched some of it on Tuesday and I was interested to see which jurors were picked. The final jury was set to be picked today at 1:30. I adjusted my schedule so that I could be down there at 1:30 today. I had a trial a few blocks away that was due to last until around 1:00 today. My plan was to head over there when I finished my trial. As my trial was ending, I got the following text from my brother "I hear that you will be testifying in the underwear bomber case". This was news to me as my status as a witness was undetermined as of Tuesday. I gave my brother a call and he said he heard on the radio, that stand-by Anthony Chambers said in court this morning that I would be testifying. While walking to Federal Court to watch final jury selection, I ran into someone that works with stand-by attorney Chambers. He told me that final jury selection was done as it didn't take as long as expected. He also told me that it was Umar that said he would call me as a witness, not Chambers. He then said Chambers is right there, go talk to him and he pointed across the street. Chambers was standing on the sidewalk across the street. I talked to Chambers for a minute and we agreed to talk again soon. He said I won't be testifying for approximately another month as the trial is supposed to be lengthy. I then headed back to my office and found out that I had messages from Fox National News and the A.P. I talked to Ed White from the A.P. on Tuesday and he misquoted me in the article he wrote. Specifically, Ed White asked what I though about Umar making outbursts in court. I said the following "I saw him before boarding and he never said anything, I've seen him in court several times, and I even saw him when he lit his fake bomb and his crotch was burning and he never makes a peep. This is totally out of character for him." You can see how Ed White did a cut and paste job of my quote here:

http://www.ydr.com/crime/ci_19035789

Note that Ed White left out that I saw Umar before boarding and that he lit a fake bomb.

I talked to Ed White again today and told him that I would only talk to him if he didn't twist my words around to mean something else. He agreed, but here is the hatchet job Ed White did to my interview with him today. Note that he says I have a "wild theory" among other things:

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/10/05/2666662/final-jury-pool-settled-in-underwear.html

This is the last straw in my discussions with the media. The media is nothing but a 4th branch of the government. I will no longer talk to any of them except the alternative media that has been supportive all along.

Note, however, in the above article, Chambers indicates that I may be the only defense witness called. How ironic is it that I will have Umar's life in my hands just as Umar had my life in his hands (or underwear) on Christmas Day 2009? I will be up to the task. I realize that some may not agree with me and may attempt to harm me. Nevertheless, I will speak the truth and not be intimidated. I will do this for the common good of all of the citizens of the United States. It is not often that I quote a passage from the bible, but I think it is appropriate here:

"And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."
 
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Pug is a facebook friend and has been keeping us abreat there. Six degrees of madjack and you will find him:toast:
 

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It was very shocking to me when Umar named me as his only witness last Thursday. I fully expected to be called as a witness if he ever obtained an attorney. The fact that he was representing himself and told Judge Edmunds that he was calling me to testify was unreal. I had mixed feelings about testifying. I would have been able to expose the government's role in this plot, but at the same time I would have been testifying on behalf of the man that tried to kill me. I also was starting to believe that my life was in danger and I was considering hiring a bodyguard just before the plea was announced. As I stated on here and as I've detailed on my blog, I witnessed some things that have convinced me this was a staged plot by the U.S. Government. To explain everything on here would be very lengthy. For anyone that is interested, please read my blog starting on 12-25-09 and going forward. This has been an unbelievable ordeal with a plot fit for a made for t.v. movie. The plot was not to blow up the airplane, but to stage a fake terrorist attack by giving Umar an intentionally defective bomb. I've spent thousands of hours since 12-25-09 researching this case, talking to other passengers, talking to his stand-by attorney and attending court hearings. It has been a huge surprise to me to see how the media has refused to report things and/or has twisted them around to support the government's version of events. I would go to court hearings and then read the media reports of what happened and the reports would be very different then what I watched. It has been very telling. The fact that Umar pled guilty to life in prison with no chance of parole is inexplicable. This was done only a few days after I was named as a witness. There is something going on behind the scenes with this plea deal that we aren't being told. One way or another the government was not going to let me get on the stand to testify.
 

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When I read the story on yahoo that he had plead, I scrolled down to the user comments and found quite a few comments lauding your commitment to sticking to the story of what you had saw.

Why he was allowed to board without a passport is the main debate and regardless of which story people believe, the fact that he was able to board is the scariest part.

Be safe, with the trial over, that is when I would feel most in danger. Someone, somewhere wants this story to go away and with it now concluded, you could be labeled a mess that needs to be cleaned up. If it makes you feel better, I always imagine that the government just pays people off instead of making them disappear.

The last thing I want to personally say to you, and as a lawyer you know this, is that you weren't testifying for Umar or testifying against the U.S., you were testifying to the truth of what you witnessed. The defense, Umar, felt that what you witnessed would help his defense. I know you know this but the weight of how it would be perceived had to be damning to your psyche. I just wanted you to know that at least one person understood that if you had taken the stand, you would have told the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Good Luck - Be Safe
 

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Thanks Josh. It has difficult dealing with all the negativity this case has brought to me. Although, at least 90% of people have been supportive.
 
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I live in Michigan but not in the 7th District. Kurt would get my vote if I did. Hope he wins and helps straighten out some of the horseshit Snyder is doing in this state.
 
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