Northwest Flight 253

gardenweasel

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:142smilie

Funny you say that...

...I actually scrolled down passed NFL (wo!! :scared ) and saw the last post in the Political Forum was like, "never"! :mj07:

How do I get a password?

Jack, help out a guy who wants to argue with a fellow Raven... :SIB

[You know the reason I stopped posting there is because I actually do seem to get on well with half the blokes I used to throw crap at, right?? :mj06: ...
...but for you, I'll make an exception! :mj07: ]

Good "movie"...anything that makes you think, makes you think. ;)

(Anyway, which part of "old and grizzled" didn't you understand...feel a lot like Favre atm...same greying too-lazy-to shave growth...except with a hotter woman and a more understanding boss...:142smilie
(sans the bank balance tho I'm afraid. :thefinger )

you know,i retract that...maybe that`s not such a good idea...i like you alot,c......it`s known fact that several loose changer madjackers and their ilk were killed by gov`t "contractors" within hours of posting their theories and "proof" that a vast government conspiracy killed thousands .....

so,maybe we should keep it n the down-low...

btw...i believe your picks yesterday(which i teased) hit....and i thank you,my brother...

i`d like to return the favor if you have the cash to make a long term investment...

take the dane mikkel kessler(around -160 at 5 dimes)in april...bad style match-up for the brit carl froch...we`re getting incredible value with kessler at home based on his last fight.....

much love,partner...:toast: ..
 
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MrChristo

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btw...i believe your picks yesterday(which i teased) hit....and i thank you,my brother...

Yes, I do believe I have a bone to pick there...

...you tease my picks and make millions, while I go 2-3, and lose $$ by losing 3 games by a total of 4 points.

Nasty stuff.

You must know I'm not a full conspiracy nut, otherwise I'd be having you whacked! [and I don't mean in a Noel kind of way!! :scared ] (Ahaa, a nut with connections...now there's a scary thought! :142smilie )

...but here's as good a proof as any that things aren't always as they seem/are reported tho right? ;) ;)
 

gardenweasel

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Yes, I do believe I have a bone to pick there...

...you tease my picks and make millions, while I go 2-3, and lose $$ by losing 3 games by a total of 4 points.

Nasty stuff.

You must know I'm not a full conspiracy nut, otherwise I'd be having you whacked! [and I don't mean in a Noel kind of way!! :scared ] (Ahaa, a nut with connections...now there's a scary thought! :142smilie )

...but here's as good a proof as any that things aren't always as they seem/are reported tho right? ;) ;)

"Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? Only the Shadow knows!"
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/don`t forget to bet kessler...
 

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I think we all know what's next. Pug never posts here again because he got a phone call.

:0corn

Then maybe I get a phone call to delete the thread :scared

I hope that happens :D


Weasel trying to shut down another thread?
 

Lumi

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U.S. Customs: Second person handcuffed on Christmas Day was on Flight 253, after all

U.S. Customs: Second person handcuffed on Christmas Day was on Flight 253, after all

U.S. Customs: Second person handcuffed on Christmas Day was on Flight 253, after all
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Sheena Harrison
MLive.com <SUP>[1]</SUP>
Sunday, January 3, 2010
FLASHBACK: Officials Claim Second Man Unrelated To Christmas Attack <SUP>[2]</SUP>
A spokesman for U.S. Customs and Border Protection now says that a man who was handcuffed and questioned by authorities on Christmas Day was a passenger on Northwest Airlines Flight 253 <SUP>[3]</SUP> ? just days after saying that person arrived to Detroit aboard a different flight.
In an email to The Detroit News Thursday night <SUP>[4]</SUP>, Customs spokesman Ron Smith acknowledged that a person from Flight 253 was handcuffed after search dogs found something in his carry-on bag. Smith said the email ? which was also sent to attorneys Lori and Kurt Haskell ? was based on new information he had received.

The passenger was not arrested or detained, and was allowed to leave Detroit Metro Airport with the rest of the Flight 253 passengers, according to WWJ <SUP>[6]</SUP>. The News said nothing was found in the man?s bag.The Haskells and at least two other Flight 253 passengers said they saw a man being handcuffed and taken away <SUP>[7]</SUP> by authorities while they were waiting to be questioned by the FBI following Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab?s alleged attack on Flight 253. On Tuesday night, Smith told MLive.com that someone had been detained at Detroit Metro Airport following the incident on Flight 253, but could not say why the person was detained or whether the person would face charges.
In a subsequent interview with MLive.com on Wednesday, Smith said the man was aboard a separate flight and that he was questioned for reasons unrelated to Flight 253. He added that passengers from various flights went through customs processing in one centralized location.
Kurt Haskell, who first gave his account last Saturday <SUP>[8]</SUP> of seeing a man being taken out of customs by authorities, posted a comment Wednesday <SUP>[9]</SUP> on MLive.com saying Smith was ?playing the American public for a fool? by saying the handcuffed man was on a different flight.

The FBI has, since we landed, insisted that only one man was arrested for the airliner attack (contradicting my account). However, several of my fellow passengers have come over the past few days, backed up my claim, and put pressure on FBI/Customs to tell the truth. Early today, I heard from two different reporters that a federal agency (FBI or Customs) was now admitting that another man has been held (and will be held indefinitely) since our flight landed for "immigration reasons." Notice that this man was "being held" and not "arrested", which was a cute semantic ploy by the FBI to stretch the truth and not lie.


A spokesman for the FBI in Washington, D.C. told MLive.com on Tuesday that Abdulmutallab was the only person arrested or charged in relation to the foiled attack on Flight 253
 

Lumi

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Kurt Haskell on Alex Jones TV: FBI Still Protecting Plane Bombers Accomplice

Kurt Haskell on Alex Jones TV: FBI Still Protecting Plane Bombers Accomplice

Kurt Haskell on Alex Jones TV: FBI Still Protecting Plane Bombers Accomplice

The Alex Jones Channel
Monday, January 4th, 2010

The witness from the Christmas day attempted plane bombing returns to the Alex Jones show.




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http://haskellfamily.blogspot.com/2010/01/latest-story-by-kurt-haskell.html
 

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Pug saw something, he reported it, we all think it's important, they brush it off, pretty much call him a liar, and he's going to accept that? PUBLICLY?

I don't think anybody would.

I think we all know what's next. Pug never posts here again because he got a phone call.

:0corn

Then maybe I get a phone call to delete the thread :scared

I hope that happens :D


I'd be more worried about a huge group of well dressed men with dark sunglasses showing up on my doorstep delivering this message....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n78BpvaX9N8
:scared :scared :look: kurby
 

Skulnik

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MSNBC putting out some spin.

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I just wish his name wasn't Haskell. Unfortunate coincidence. Kinda like Barack Hussein.
 

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Livonia, Michigan (CNN) -- U.S. authorities had another Nigerian-born man with an engineering background on their radar when Northwest Airlines Flight 253 prepared to land in Detroit, Michigan, on Christmas Day.

Emmanuel Chukwu shared the same travel itinerary with Umar Farouk AbdulMutallab, the suspect in the unsuccessful attempt to blow up the Amsterdam, Netherlands-to-Detroit flight. Both men were originally from Nigeria and had studied as engineers.

But while the 23-year-old AbdulMutallab was a loner and a global nomad whose family tried to warn U.S. authorities about his turn toward Islamic extremism, Chukwu -- a 41-year-old naturalized U.S. citizen and father of four American children -- also caught the attention of government officials.

Federal agents pulled Chukwu aside for several hours of intense screening when Northwest 253 landed in Detroit, shortly after authorities say AbdulMutallab tried to set off an explosive device concealed in his underwear. Chukwu said agents told him his similar background prompted the additional scrutiny.

"The FBI came back and said, 'You know what, it's a very unfortunate coincidence, right, that the suspect is a Nigerian,' " he told CNN. "And that was the first time I got to know that the suspect is a Nigerian and happened to be an engineer like myself."

But unbeknownst to Chukwu, CNN has learned, he was being tracked in TECS -- a massive government database accessed daily by law enforcement agencies. The database, dating back to the 1970s, allows government agencies to compare watch lists with flight manifests and to look for red flags that could prompt a secondary screening.



Video: Man questioned on bomb plot "TECS really is the backbone or the mainframe, the real operating system for Customs and Border Protection that has the information from other law enforcement agencies," said Kathy Kraninger, a former Homeland Security official and now a security consultant. Kraninger said that while some of the information housed on TECS is benign, most of it is "derogatory," ranging from immigration and customs violations to warrants and criminal records.

On December 25, Chukwu was seated about five rows behind AbdulMutallab when the bombing attempt took place.

"People started screaming, 'Oh, there's smoke, there's smoke,' " Chukwu said. Once the plane landed, he said, "I just said, 'God, thank you, I'm alive.' "

Chukwu said he has flown between Nigeria and the United States "about 20 times or more" since 1995. But in addition to being patted down and searched during his secondary screening, Chukwu said, he was questioned well beyond his frequent travels to his homeland.

Some of the questioning involved an incident from September 26, 2008, when he was caught in Amsterdam carrying an unloaded shotgun in his checked luggage on his way from the United States to Nigeria.

He said Dutch authorities told him, " 'Oh, you have a gun in your bag.' I said, 'Yes, I know, I have a gun in my bag,' It's an unloaded gun, brand new, never been used,' " Chukwu said.

But both the Netherlands and Nigeria forbid civilians to carry a gun without permission. Dutch authorities confirmed the 2008 incident and said Chukwu was released and given a two-year probation.

It's unclear whether a record of the gun incident or other risk factors -- Chukwu's travel patterns and personal profile -- triggered his secondary screening in Detroit. The Department of Homeland Security will not comment on the matter.

But for Chukwu's pregnant wife, Janefrances, the additional screening meant six hours of waiting on Christmas Day -- not knowing if her husband was coming home.

"On the 25th, four children would have lost their dad," she said. "What I know is that my husband is not going to harm anybody, has never harmed anybody. I hope that they will put the right people in the database so that they will be able to catch the people who will cause harm to the United States."
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well well well

looks like there was another passenger taken away
 

pug

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There is still another man that was taken away. It sounds like this guy was black. The man in orange was Indian and was taken away because a dog sniffed something(a bomb?) in his carry on bag.

The lies and cover up continue, but at least people are now believing me.
 
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