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I would second that motion
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I would second that motion
when a debator says about 6 or 7 times that his opponent is right during a debate....it doesn't show well for the debator....
when a debator talks over the other person it doesn't show well.....
when a debator gives round about answers instead of direct answers it doesn't show well for the debator...
when a debator makes facial gestures...it doesn't show well for the debator...
when a debator raises his hand to try to get a point across...it doesn't show well for the debator...
when a moderator asks the debators what cuts you would make because of the economy & one debator answers that he will add programs...it doesn't show well for a debator...
you guys can spin it any way you want but mccain came off much stronger than the stuttering obama....
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I think some people like certain candidates because they swap spit or other body fluids with Lieberman.
The two insta-polls out -- from CBS and CNN -- declared Obama the winner. CBS had it 39% to 25% for Obama, CNN 51% to 38%.
Just posting what I read -- take it for what it's worth. I'm sure a Fox poll would swing differently.
These polls are as jaded as the judges in a Don King fight.
Just posting what I read -- take it for what it's worth. I'm sure a Fox poll would swing differently.
These polls are as jaded as the judges in a Don King fight.
Up to this point Chad your post was the only one worthy of a read. We got guys saying the same crap for months about how these two don't belong on the stage like somehow they should be up there. I think i give this debate to McCain for the simple reason that a few of his lies will stick with people and the way he kept belittling Obama, calling him naive and Obama letting him keep getting away with it. Two things i thought were very disturbing were Obama refusal to go after McCain when McCain kept piling on his bullshit on how he supports veterans. Veterans of America give him a 20 percent rating.:shrug: Where was Obama with this? Another thing, why didn't Obama keep saying over and over again that if they didn't go into Iraq there would have not been a so called surge? It really is said that guys in this thread can sit there and watch 15 hours of poker but a presidential debate was to painful for them to sit thru. Like somehow it is easy for McCain and Obama to stand there in front of 100 million people and just answers questions with the greatest of ease. I do think Obama looked more presidential with a lot more style and grace. I give a slight edge to McCain because nobody thought he had a chance.
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I agree. Personally I thought both candidates did a good job of appealing to the audience they already have, while neither really drew blood when it came to those in the middle. McCain wasn't able to make Obama look weak on national security/ foreign policy and Obama wasn't able to make McCain look feeble minded and out of touch.
Just read that the Fox Poll was 82-16 for McCain. All a matter of Righties going to one site to vote and Lefties going to another, hence the very skewed results.
Going to be a very interesting 38 days....
That is very surprising. Other stations don't have the numbers ridculous but Fox does.:shrug: Weird how this happens all the time. Then we have the one guy here who has McCains **** in his ass explaining why McCain won with every same talking point i heard on Fox. Strange how this always seems to happen with him. You think he could come up with his own thoughts for a change.
Arguing who won a debate is pure BS. Folks are going to say the guy they support won. You see a single pundit go against their guy?
The average American doesnt have a clue. Incredibly they just dont know BS when they hear it. Every "independent economist" has said neither guy's economic plan will work and both will lead to a massive increase of the debt. Of course the networks dont discuss that. But Obama hopes the $500 check he wants to send you gets your vote and McCain wants to act like ending earmarks will save the day. And Lehrer...what a buffoon. ..ask a real question like " Obama how are you going to pay for all that crap you want" and so on.
From a pure "debate standpoint" - ie if this was a College debate tournament - McCain won. Obama is a far superior ortator and McCain a far better debater. If folks cut through the bs I thought McCain performed better, but Obama did what he had to do and look like he belonged. However the "I agree w McCain" over and over was a major major blunder. I think he was trying to look collegial and bipartisan, but it didnt come across that way. McCain went too far belittling Obama. Not that the point swerent valid, but the independent voters he is trying to woo dont generally like that sort of thing.
The average American doesnt have a clue. Incredibly they just dont know BS when they hear it. Every "independent economist" has said neither guy's economic plan will work and both will lead to a massive increase of the debt. Of course the networks dont discuss that. But Obama hopes the $500 check he wants to send you gets your vote and McCain wants to act like ending earmarks will save the day. And Lehrer...what a buffoon. ..ask a real question like " Obama how are you going to pay for all that crap you want" and so on.
From a pure "debate standpoint" - ie if this was a College debate tournament - McCain won. Obama is a far superior ortator and McCain a far better debater. If folks cut through the bs I thought McCain performed better, but Obama did what he had to do and look like he belonged. However the "I agree w McCain" over and over was a major major blunder. I think he was trying to look collegial and bipartisan, but it didnt come across that way. McCain went too far belittling Obama. Not that the point swerent valid, but the independent voters he is trying to woo dont generally like that sort of thing.
{{{{DRUDGE POLL}}}} WHO WON THE FIRST PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE?...
MCCAIN
65% 137,356
OBAMA
33% 68,599
NEITHER
2% 4,785
Total Votes: 210,740
MCCAIN
65% 137,356
OBAMA
33% 68,599
NEITHER
2% 4,785
Total Votes: 210,740
My biggest disappointment?
Sarah Palin didn't show up in the spin cycle. :0corn
She's brilliant at ripping Obama.
GL
Sarah Palin didn't show up in the spin cycle. :0corn
She's brilliant at ripping Obama.
GL
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For no other reason except to get your vote with the biggest one for statement purposes, you should probably go Libertarian.
Their party views are the closest to mine anyway. My wife wants to put a McCain/Palin sign in our yard. I think I will let her if I can put a Barr/Root one up.
I'm still shocked about the Wayne Allyn Root pick, but oh well. Better than more of the BS Dems and Reps.
http://www.bobbarr2008.com/
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http://www.mogulus.com/reason
This is funny.
Barr was debating live online from somewhere else during last night's debate.
Why not let him in the debate? That's why I hate our system. I don't think you can let everyone in the debate, but he is a third party choice for the public. He would freaking slay these two jokers out of the big parties!
If someone sees the video posted, link it here. If I see it, I'll be back.
This is funny.
Barr was debating live online from somewhere else during last night's debate.
Why not let him in the debate? That's why I hate our system. I don't think you can let everyone in the debate, but he is a third party choice for the public. He would freaking slay these two jokers out of the big parties!
If someone sees the video posted, link it here. If I see it, I'll be back.
I figured most of my views coincide with the Socialist Worker Party, but I don't know if they'll be on the ballot. Wayne Allen Root it is.
