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All your statements....

"I'm not sure how you keep insisting that the "people" want this or that as if you are speaking for the majority or that you have your finger on the pulse of the collective population, you don't. "

"Chuck,
You don't represent the "people" nor does Trump's election reflect what "the people" want"


And you went off about telling me I don't know what people want and I don't represent the people. Shame on me for using a collective word describing who voted him into office.



Yet, when you say "
"Trump's proven to be exactly who we knew he was, an asshole. "

So, you are allowed to use a collective word of we, so just throwing it back at you because no, you knew inside what you were meaning by it. The rest of us have to figure out what you meant by it. Same thing, just a different word. I guess I can say I knew inside what I meant, and that excuse would be good for you too, right? You see how stupid your relentless bullshit going after my people word, just because you wanted to argue about it? But, when I do it, look at how you feel now below

Your statement...

"My God man, you're actually trying to start an argument over a pronoun I used in one sentence. What the fuck is wrong with you?"

:142smilieWow, pretty ridiculous, huh? No, not embarrassed in the least, and no, I hear no one saying, wow, FDC sure has Chuck in a corner, doesn't he? Only your egotistical self thinks that. Go back a few pages and read again and again what layinwood wrote to you. It was perfect.






 

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Really? Are you just trolling here?

CIA- they were spot on with weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, right?

From the Wash Post article:

For example, intelligence agencies do not have specific intelligence showing officials in the Kremlin ?directing? the identified individuals to pass the Democratic emails to WikiLeaks, a second senior U.S. official said. Those actors, according to the official, were ?one step? removed from the Russian government, rather than government employees."



Buy everything "dude in basement" types? They were Hillary's actual emails, holy fuck. Dude in basement? Emails she authored, along with her staffers.


And for the record, I said it's plausible that Russia released those emails. However, I'll say it for the 5th time. Americans voted. Plain and simple Hillary lost because she was cocky and didn't set foot in Wisconsin and not in MI until it was too late. This has nothing to do with Russia.

If Biden ran it wouldn't have mattered had Russia released his emails. It was the actual candidate that was the problem. Is it that hard to figure out? Are you that obtuse?

From the same Washington Post article:

Intelligence agencies have identified individuals with connections to the Russian government who provided WikiLeaks with thousands of hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee and others, including Hillary Clinton?s campaign chairman, according to U.S. officials. Those officials described the individuals as actors known to the intelligence community and part of a wider Russian operation to boost Trump and hurt Clinton?s chances.



?It is the assessment of the intelligence community that Russia?s goal here was to favor one candidate over the other, to help Trump get elected,? said a senior U.S. official briefed on an intelligence presentation made to U.S. senators. ?That?s the consensus view.?


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I don't think I have said anything other than I am not a fan of foreign countries trying to influence our elections and that some of the emails have been manipulated by crazy people to create Fake News stories like Pizzagate.

The "dude in the basement" is the trusted source of Jaxx, Skulnik, Hedgehog, Dead Money, etc. They all claim that the professional journalists can not be trusted. They post stuff from blogs that we are supposed to take as seriously as them because it fits their preconceptions. They think the Fake News controversy is about NBC, CBS, The NY Times, etc. They're completely lost.

You asked me for proof, so I posted 5 articles about the investigation. You can't even stomach that it's being investigated because you don't want it to be true. I can't post about the story because Clinton lost and that makes me a sore loser. Whatever.
 

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The Senate "Intelligence" committee is going to be involved in the investigation...:142smilie

now there is a real play on words.....

McCain sold his soul decades ago.....he needs to go play ice golf and take up yodeling in Antarctica

You don't believe professional journalists, the FBI, the CIA, or our elected leaders. Would you consider yourself Fact Agnostic?
 

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All your statements....

"I'm not sure how you keep insisting that the "people" want this or that as if you are speaking for the majority or that you have your finger on the pulse of the collective population, you don't. "

"Chuck,
You don't represent the "people" nor does Trump's election reflect what "the people" want"


And you went off about telling me I don't know what people want and I don't represent the people. Shame on me for using a collective word describing who voted him into office.



Yet, when you say "
"Trump's proven to be exactly who we knew he was, an asshole. "

So, you are allowed to use a collective word of we, so just throwing it back at you because no, you knew inside what you were meaning by it. The rest of us have to figure out what you meant by it. Same thing, just a different word. I guess I can say I knew inside what I meant, and that excuse would be good for you too, right? You see how stupid your relentless bullshit going after my people word, just because you wanted to argue about it? But, when I do it, look at how you feel now below

Your statement...

"My God man, you're actually trying to start an argument over a pronoun I used in one sentence. What the fuck is wrong with you?"

:142smilieWow, pretty ridiculous, huh? No, not embarrassed in the least, and no, I hear no one saying, wow, FDC sure has Chuck in a corner, doesn't he? Only your egotistical self thinks that. Go back a few pages and read again and again what layinwood wrote to you. It was perfect.







Those are all my statements huh Chuck? All accurately represented in its original content, right? Sheezus dude. You just don't get it do you? You can't even help including another poster in the post responding to the accusation that you always try to bring others into your goddamned little bitch ass whiny posts.

Read the post Chuck. He is who we thought he was, was a singular sentence at the bottom of a post and the last line of my post. It's abundantly me clear to me what I was referencing when I wrote it, you know, because I wrote it.

How the hell is that anything like stating what you did? Statements like "the people voted for Trump because they didn't want", or "that's how Alan and I interpreted it", how? For fucks sake, I've already done this with you once and you had no explanation or response then as you simply changed the point trying to argue something else yet again. Did it occur to you when you were posting about Alan's interpretation that I was communicating with him directly on another media? Yep, sure was, he and I are friends and have been since we first met. He's awesome. He can certainly speak for himself as well as airportis.
For fucks sake Chuck just stop. I don't care. I don't fucking care about you not even a single iota. This thread, your first post started this mother fucking argument and I'm sick to death of your goddamned bitch ass whining. You're now trying to tell me what my thoughts and intentions are, fuck me.

YOUR FIRST POST WAS TO TELL ME I WAS BEING A DICK TO ANOTHER POSTER YOU'VE NEVER MET!



You couldn't resist jumping in a thread and making some sniveling shitty comment and you act as if I'm supposed to just take it. Stay out of my business it's that simple.

Have I ever, ever, ever, ever, addressed you without solicitation on this website ever? If so please, I beg you show me where and I'll delete it. That way you can treat me exactly the way I treat you. I completely disregard you in all matters unless you start making those little pussy ass comments.


Keep your mouth shut, or even just mind your own business, or let a very intelligent poster like airportis speak for himself, and we never have this stupid argument. My God let it go. Fuck! I don't care what you think about anything, not now nor ever, so just don't tell me. I don't care.



If you just have to respond, i understand. I get frustrated when people talk shit to me as well, so feel free to get it all out of your system. Tell me how bad if a person I am, call me any name you want. No problem, i get it. Have at it, I won't respond to it, I promise. I also promise I'll continue to never address you and completely disregard you if you could please just do the same for me. That would be great. Don't refer to be either, don't make an offhand comment about me or another of my posts, even if you think you're being coy, and we'll never ever have to do this again. How awesome would that be Chuck? Your little world without me in it, and my even smaller world without you in it. That would be great.



Hope this helps,
FDC


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Those are all my statements huh Chuck? All accurately represented in its original content, right? Sheezus dude. You just don't get it do you? You can't even help including another poster in the post responding to the accusation that you always try to bring others into your goddamned little bitch ass whiny posts.

Read the post Chuck. He is who we thought he was, was a singular sentence at the bottom of a post and the last line of my post. It's abundantly me clear to me what I was referencing when I wrote it, you know, because I wrote it.

How the hell is that anything like stating what you did? Statements like "the people voted for Trump because they didn't want", or "that's how Alan and I interpreted it", how? For fucks sake, I've already done this with you once and you had no explanation or response then as you simply changed the point trying to argue something else yet again. Did it occur to you when you were posting about Alan's interpretation that I was communicating with him directly on another media? Yep, sure was, he and I are friends and have been since we first met. He's awesome. He can certainly speak for himself as well as airportis.
For fucks sake Chuck just stop. I don't care. I don't fucking care about you not even a single iota. This thread, your first post started this mother fucking argument and I'm sick to death of your goddamned bitch ass whining. You're now trying to tell me what my thoughts and intentions are, fuck me.

YOUR FIRST POST WAS TO TELL ME I WAS BEING A DICK TO ANOTHER POSTER YOU'VE NEVER MET!



You couldn't resist jumping in a thread and making some sniveling shitty comment and you act as if I'm supposed to just take it. Stay out of my business it's that simple.

Have I ever, ever, ever, ever, addressed you without solicitation on this website ever? If so please, I beg you show me where and I'll delete it. That way you can treat me exactly the way I treat you. I completely disregard you in all matters unless you start making those little pussy ass comments.


Keep your mouth shut, or even just mind your own business, or let a very intelligent poster like airportis speak for himself, and we never have this stupid argument. My God let it go. Fuck! I don't care what you think about anything, not now nor ever, so just don't tell me. I don't care.



If you just have to respond, i understand. I get frustrated when people talk shit to me as well, so feel free to get it all out of your system. Tell me how bad if a person I am, call me any name you want. No problem, i get it. Have at it, I won't respond to it, I promise. I also promise I'll continue to never address you and completely disregard you if you could please just do the same for me. That would be great. Don't refer to be either, don't make an offhand comment about me or another of my posts, even if you think you're being coy, and we'll never ever have to do this again. How awesome would that be Chuck? Your little world without me in it, and my even smaller world without you in it. That would be great.



Hope this helps,
FDC


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Imagine all the money that could have been made betting Trump about a year or two ago. I think he was +1500 or 2000 at one point

I'll also say this about the thread... it has a lot of energy.. I'm not a Trump fan but I'm hoping for the best. I don't know what to think about his cabinet, appears a bit sketchy. Can't stand politics in general, I didn't think the past 8 years were as bad as the right wanted the country to believe, I think Obama did fair considering the shit sandwich he was given and the right's constant push back from day 1. saying that I guess I have no right to bitch cause even though I didn't vote Trump I couldn't vote for Hillary either
 

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"Trump's proven to be exactly who we knew he was, an asshole.

Since when is WE singular? Why not say "I" there??? I is singular. You argued as I quoted you for me using "people". You are all about prose and perfection in writing. Now I am happy.

[h=2]Definition of we[/h]

  • 1: I and the rest of a group that includes me : you and I : you and I and another or others : I and another or others not including you ?used as pronoun of the first person plural ? compare i, our, ours, us
  • 2

 

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I'll also say this about the thread... it has a lot of energy.. I'm not a Trump fan but I'm hoping for the best. I don't know what to think about his cabinet, appears a bit sketchy. Can't stand politics in general, I didn't think the past 8 years were as bad as the right wanted the country to believe, I think Obama did fair considering the shit sandwich he was given and the right's constant push back from day 1. saying that I guess I have no right to bitch cause even though I didn't vote Trump I couldn't vote for Hillary either

http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/results/senate/votes.html
 

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You don't believe professional journalists, the FBI, the CIA, or our elected leaders. Would you consider yourself Fact Agnostic?

I don't consider most of what the current media climate divulges as "Fact", period....

We the people have been treated as absolute closet mushrooms for decades; the internet genie is unstoppable, for now.

over and out.....of this thread.....I have a life to live....carry on...:SIB
 

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Will Trump officially change his title to Russian puppet and will we not be called America anymore after Putin swears him in?

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Will Trump officially change his title to Russian puppet and will we not be called America anymore after Putin swears him in?

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Wasn't it Hillary who sold Russia 20% of our uranium? After a nice donation to her Slush,,,,,er foundation.
 

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Wasn't it Hillary who sold Russia 20% of our uranium? After a nice donation to her Slush,,,,,er foundation.
No Stevie D as a matter of fact it was not. It's a popular tag line with republicans and those who don't actually care for facts.

Saint posted an article on this same thing earlier and said pretty much the same thing as you just did. Unfortunately for Saint, his supporting document and what he was referencing as proof was nothing more than a right leaning op-ed that stated in the middle of the article that there is NO ACTUAL PROOF OF ANY KIND that any of what we're speculating was even remotely true.

What is true is that Trump's Secretary of State received Russias highest civilian honor when Putin presented him the Order of Friendship medal a couple years ago. What is true is that the CIA has stated that they have uncovered irrefutable evidence that Russia hacked our election cycle in an effort to get Trump the election. Also what is true is that Republican leaders in Congress knew about the hack for months and suppressed it in order to get Trump elected.

What is true is that Trump and SoS appointee Tillerson have millions invested in the ExxonMobil deal with Russia and stand to make billions once Trump is elected and he can lift the sanctions currently in place against Russia. Those sanctions are in place because of Russias involvement in a political coup in the Crimean peninsula where Russia hacked into and once again infiltrated an election cycle. Russia still lost that election, so they decided to depose the duly elected leader anyway by using military force.

What is true is Trump's son, speaking at a press conference, announced that a sizable amount of the Trump's wealth comes from deals with Russia and that we should be friends and allies.

What is true is that they in all the investigations supported by congressional republicans found only one small "c" halfway down the page of a single email. It was also said by the leader of the investigation that the little "c" could be and most likely was easily missed. In all those investigations on Hillary and her emails, that's what they found. Millions of tax payer dollars and how many investigations?


I'll be more than happy to discuss any and all crimes Hillary had been convicted of, there aren't any, and all that she's been indicted for, there aren't any. So long as you're willing to accept what is actual real life fact and truth, you know, the kind you would expect to be considered if it were you on trial. The kind you can support with real evidence.


What can be supported is Trump's ties to Russia. His embezzlement and fraud concerning Trump university, as well as his fraudulent veterans charity in which he stole money from. His admitted sexual assaults. The entire litany of lie after lie after lie that have actually been proven to be outright lies by Trump and his campaign.

I have reservations that any Trump supporters would be willing to have that discussion within the parameters stated.


I have yet to see any of his supporters that can make a clear and concise argument for Trump without using the same old tired and unproven rhetoric and propaganda attacking the Clinton's. I have my doubts it can be done, but I'm willing to give it a go. Are you?


We can even start with you providing concrete evidentiary material that supports your statement that Hillary Clinton sold 20% of the U.S.A.'s uranium to Russia. All I ask is that if you cannot provide it, you just say so and retract the statement in its entirety or state that it is indeed nothing more than a useful untruth.

Fair enough? I'm more than willing to do the same with anything I've said about Trump.




Anyone?

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