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What is true is Trump's son, speaking at a press conference, announced that a sizable amount of the Trump's wealth comes from deals with Russia and that we should be friends and allies.



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I should know better than this but we'll start here. Can you post this about what he said? Just about his son and the wealth from Russia. I do know they've made money from Russian investors on some of their real estate deals but I would say they've probably made money from someone of almost every nationality.
 

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I should know better than this but we'll start here.

I spit my tea out when I read this. What are the odds that the Trump empire and the Clinton empire are in business dealings together? :0corn I would bet on yes before I would no. And another question I have is for when people quote the main stream media, is this the same media that had Hillary an easy winner? OR even more important that Kiffin had the Houston job lock and key?:facepalm:
 

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What is true is that Trump and SoS appointee Tillerson have millions invested in the ExxonMobil deal with Russia and stand to make billions once Trump is elected and he can lift the sanctions currently in place against Russia.


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Please show me how you know Trump has millions invested in the ExxonMobil deal with Russia.
 

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Please show me how you know Trump has millions invested in the ExxonMobil deal with Russia.
He announced it in October of 2012 I believe. I'd have to find it but I'm driving at the moment. It isn't classified information. On the contrary, he's even made several references to he and Tillerson being involved in it at the 2013 Miss Universe pageant in Moscow.

Of course the easy way to find out would have been for him to release his taxes. Strangely enough he's the first president to outright decline to do that since it became the practice. I would think that alone would be enough to raise concerns, considering what some people are willing to believe on far less information anyway. Pizzagate comes to mind.

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I should know better than this but we'll start here. Can you post this about what he said? Just about his son and the wealth from Russia. I do know they've made money from Russian investors on some of their real estate deals but I would say they've probably made money from someone of almost every nationality.
L-wood,
I don't think the, "I should know better" comment was necessary as I've not been anything but respectful towards you add you have me, but that's fine.

Here is the statement his son made that I was referencing. There are several other reports from the Washington Post, CBS news, Financial Times, etc... detailing his extensive dealings with Russia.
All readily available online.


Russia is one of the hottest places in the world for investment,? Trump said in a 2007 deposition. ... ?Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,? Trump's son told a real estate conference in 2008, according to an account posted on the website of eTurboNews, a trade publication.Jul 27, 2016

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He announced it in October of 2012 I believe. I'd have to find it but I'm driving at the moment. It isn't classified information. On the contrary, he's even made several references to he and Tillerson being involved in it at the 2013 Miss Universe pageant in Moscow.

Of course the easy way to find out would have been for him to release his taxes. Strangely enough he's the first president to outright decline to do that since it became the practice. I would think that alone would be enough to raise concerns, considering what some people are willing to believe on far less information anyway. Pizzagate comes to mind.

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Go ahead and post it when you find it. I'm not looking for something that raises concerns. The Clinton Foundation getting 131 millions donated by the founder of Uranium One and not disclosing it raises concerns as well but I'm not talking about concerns. I want to know where the fact is about him being vested in the Exxon Russia deal. You don't want people posting things about Hillary that aren't fact so I'm thinking your postings on Trump should hold the same rules.
 

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I spit my tea out when I read this. What are the odds that the Trump empire and the Clinton empire are in business dealings together? :0corn I would bet on yes before I would no. And another question I have is for when people quote the main stream media, is this the same media that had Hillary an easy winner? OR even more important that Kiffin had the Houston job lock and key?:facepalm:
Bama,
I an not ignoring you or your fine example of Republican rhetoric having little or no basis in truth only conjecture, but I was hoping we could stay on point as far as what is actually concrete and not absurd.


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L-wood,
I don't think the, "I should know better" comment was necessary as I've not been anything but respectful towards you add you have me, but that's fine.

Here is the statement his son made that I was referencing. There are several other reports from the Washington Post, CBS news, Financial Times, etc... detailing his extensive dealings with Russia.
All readily available online.


Russia is one of the hottest places in the world for investment,? Trump said in a 2007 deposition. ... ?Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,? Trump's son told a real estate conference in 2008, according to an account posted on the website of eTurboNews, a trade publication.Jul 27, 2016

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I apologize and you are correct I shouldn't have said that. My problem with what you posted is that you said his son said a lot of Trump's wealth comes from deals with Russia. His son actually said "Russians" as in people not the country. It's very different having real estate deals with Russians than it is getting rich from their country.
 

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I will try look up the Hillary urainium mess later. If I figure out how to spell it. But it comes as no surprise that Trumps appointees are business men who have dealings all over the world. That was, the whole point, not to appoint the same old incompetents everywhere.
 

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Stevie, there is nothing concrete on Hillary, the uranium and the Foundation. How anyone can be ok with what happened I'll never know but there is nothing there for her to get in trouble over. My problem is Obama allowed the Foundation to keep going while she was SOS as long as they disclosed all donations. The 131 million from the Uranium One founder that was donated just happened to not get disclosed. It was an "accident." Again, that it all there is but that's no ok IMO.
 

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I apologize and you are correct I shouldn't have said that. My problem with what you posted is that you said his son said a lot of Trump's wealth comes from deals with Russia. His son actually said "Russians" as in people not the country. It's very different having real estate deals with Russians than it is getting rich from their country.
Fair enough.

There are several deals, such as the Trump Tower in Miami that are private Russian investors or companies. So Russia may have been broad stroke.

Forbes has reported numerous times on Trump's holdings in Exxon Mobil. This is only one.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jennife...ks-and-more-foreign-connections/#2f0b74aa2434.




I think it would be naive to think that the strangeness of statements made by Trump as it relates to Putin don't bring about concern. Without his tax portfolio or statements I think we'll be left to wonder as to the actual depth of his involvement.



On another note, Uranium One would not be an issue had Hillary Clinton refused to release her tax statements and financial disclosures as Trump has done.




I keep seeing people post about Trump changing things up by not doing the same old thing and going with businessmen instead of politicians like Hillary and I find it very curious that every time I being up something about Trump being crooked, a fraud, or a liar and bring to bear something like this, his business ties in Russia, it's always met with a comparison to some thing Hillary either was involved with or alleged to be involved with.


If Trump is so different than why is it so easy or everyone so quick to establish a congruence between he and Hillary? Seems to me that if he was such a trendsetter and fresh new approach, it would be uncommon and difficult to draw comparisons to the one person they hate so much and point to as representative of the old guard?


I mean Kobe sure has a ton of similarities to Jordan, which is why I would think he's often compared to him. We couldn't have a discussion about the turnaround fall away jumpers, or who was a better shooter, etc... if we were arguing opposites. Just sayin

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L-wood,
I don't think the, "I should know better" comment was necessary as I've not been anything but respectful towards you add you have me, but that's fine.

Here is the statement his son made that I was referencing. There are several other reports from the Washington Post, CBS news, Financial Times, etc... detailing his extensive dealings with Russia.
All readily available online.


Russia is one of the hottest places in the world for investment,? Trump said in a 2007 deposition. ... ?Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,? Trump's son told a real estate conference in 2008, according to an account posted on the website of eTurboNews, a trade publication.Jul 27, 2016

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USA $20T debt, who is that owe to :shrug:
 

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The last time we had obvious financial conflict of interest in the executive branch we pre-emptively invaded a large nation on bogus intel which just so happened to benefit the deciders. Thousands of our lives and countless civilians later that mess is continuing to haunt and curse us.

These are the BIG mistakes. It's incredible what our leaders can pull off some times. They get us killed for their wealth and somehow make us feel grateful for the opportunity to do so.
 

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I should know better than this but we'll start here. Can you post this about what he said? Just about his son and the wealth from Russia. I do know they've made money from Russian investors on some of their real estate deals but I would say they've probably made money from someone of almost every nationality.

Not sure if this is exactly what he's referring to, but open this article and check out #8.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-question-in-24-steps/?utm_term=.25228130b008
 
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