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what is your gofundme page to help DACA kids?:shrug: I'm sure by now there must be millions in donations!

Like I said they aren't fucking kids. Do you understand English? They need people to advocate for them against pieces of shit like you. Is that clear enough?
 

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Like I said they aren't fucking kids. Do you understand English? They need people to advocate for them against pieces of shit like you. Is that clear enough?

Well I understand English, do they? Advocate away. Oh they're adults? Let's just keep coddling them because they are special, meanwhile fuck citizen's right, what the fuck don't you understand about that. Open up your wallet and hire them an immigration attorney #adoptadaca!
 

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Like I said they aren't fucking kids. Do you understand English? They need people to advocate for them against pieces of shit like you. Is that clear enough?

Ima piece of shit:mj07:. Cannot even imagine how someone can disrespect their country as much as you apparently do. Maybe you're not a citizen, I have no idea. You do have a pretty good grasp of swear word's in English, so kudos on that, meanwhile #adoptadaca
 

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Ima piece of shit:mj07:. Cannot even imagine how someone can disrespect their country as much as you apparently do. Maybe you're not a citizen, I have no idea. You do have a pretty good grasp of swear word's in English, so kudos on that, meanwhile #adoptadaca

What the fuck is ima? Learn how to express yourself in English before you come at me again. :facepalm:
 

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Nope, bottom line its all about DACA, fuck US citizens over future democratic voters
How many dreamers have you taken in? Adopted? Nobody seems to really want to help these kids? I don't get it? And what do they actually dream about? Do they really want to deal with all this shit? No, they dream about all the free shit! Dream On!

So you hate the troops huh?

About 900 dreamers are in the military.

So those military members are all about the free shit or whatever bigoted nonsense you are spewing.
 

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That is bullshit too. We have been trying to get DACA resolved for quite awhile now. The deadline is approaching and that piece of shit Trump has already went back on his word with DACA.

I think I've been about as non confrontational as anyone could expect when talking politics with people on the other side of the agenda, but this is 100% bullshit. You, and 99% of people unaffected by DACA didn't give one shit about DACA until Trump made it an issue.

It's nothing more than a bargaining chip so you can feel like you got a win on your side. You said it yourself, you hope they fuck everyone if they don't get what they want. Take a step back and see how unreasonable that really is. What good does it do you if people get hurt in the process? So they will vote democrat next time? Guess what, my friends affected by this did vote democrat, so now what? What personal gain will you get if people go without paychecks?

I'll answer for you, you will get to beat your chest and that's fucking it. People will be hurt, DACA will not be resolved and you will not be better off by even the smallest of margins.

If this is what it takes for you to feel important, rooting for the failure of others, I suggest you really get involved with something you can make a difference in a positive manner. You will feel much better.

http://www.childrenshospital.org/


http://www.humanesociety.org/animal...rescues.html?referrer=https://www.google.com/
 

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I think I've been about as non confrontational as anyone could expect when talking politics with people on the other side of the agenda, but this is 100% bullshit. You, and 99% of people unaffected by DACA didn't give one shit about DACA until Trump made it an issue.

It's nothing more than a bargaining chip so you can feel like you got a win on your side. You said it yourself, you hope they fuck everyone if they don't get what they want. Take a step back and see how unreasonable that really is. What good does it do you if people get hurt in the process? So they will vote democrat next time? Guess what, my friends affected by this did vote democrat, so now what? What personal gain will you get if people go without paychecks?

I'll answer for you, you will get to beat your chest and that's fucking it. People will be hurt, DACA will not be resolved and you will not be better off by even the smallest of margins.

If this is what it takes for you to feel important, rooting for the failure of others, I suggest you really get involved with something you can make a difference in a positive manner. You will feel much better.

http://www.childrenshospital.org/


http://www.humanesociety.org/animal...rescues.html?referrer=https://www.google.com/

No offense, but you can't say "You didn't give a shit about ________ until Trump took ________ away." That's absurd.

Why hasn't the World's Greatest Deal Maker made a deal? Why do you keep giving the ONE GUY that rejected a bi-partisan plan a pass?
 

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No offense, but you can't say "You didn't give a shit about ________ until Trump took ________ away." That's absurd.

Why hasn't the World's Greatest Deal Maker made a deal? Why do you keep giving the ONE GUY that rejected a bi-partisan plan a pass?

Where did I give him a pass? I'm pretty sure I said half a dozen times I think he's not doing a good job, didn't I?

Here's a good first couple paragraphs, you don't have to read the whole thing, but this sums up exactly what I was thinking:


https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/21/opinions/government-shutdown-opinion-stewart/index.html

I can only imagine that if you read it your thought process will be "exactly, that's what negotiations are", but in this case it's not negotiations, it's blackmail.


If the Republicans took the "negotiating" strategy you admire so much they would have invoked the nuclear option (hey, if you have a chip use it, right?) then told the Dems to not bring up DACA again or they deport 100,000 illegals a day until they stop bringing it up.

Fortunately, cooler heads prevailed and the Dems decided to not hold Americans hostage. You will still get your deal on DACA , which you should, despite the fact that you and TU have guaranteed it won't happen if not tied to the budget.
 

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Just as I suspected. Dems pussied out and gave in as usual. It's just fine when the GOP does it but when the Dems try to do it all these tools come out of nowhere upset. Dems need a spine and for once tell the GOP to go fuck themselves. :facepalm:
 

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Just as I suspected. Dems pussied out and gave in as usual. It's just fine when the GOP does it but when the Dems try to do it all these tools come out of nowhere upset. Dems need a spine and for once tell the GOP to go fuck themselves. :facepalm:

Wow. Budget got passed, people get to keep earning paychecks, DACA will get resolved and your pissed nobody got fucked in the deal?

This says a lot about you.
 

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Just as I suspected. Dems pussied out and gave in as usual. It's just fine when the GOP does it but when the Dems try to do it all these tools come out of nowhere upset. Dems need a spine and for once tell the GOP to go fuck themselves. :facepalm:

You know I sit to the left when picking aisles but I do disagree with you here. I think this played out pretty well for us.

The last time we had a Government shut down, the GOP kept things closed 16 days. It had a true impact on the lives of Government Workers and the fight was over Obamacare, the same Obamacare that the GOP can't repeal because of the benefit that it is providing to poor hard working single breadwinner families especially here in the South. Most of the 1099 contract labor guys we see that are married and have children, especially those with stay at home moms love Obamacare and vote for Trump. These are the people you saw in the south going to town hall meetings and telling elected Republicans not to mess with their families health care. So doors were closed for 16 days over the GOP holding Obamacare hostage.

This shutdown.

The dems shut down the Government over the weekend and by end of Monday had the votes to get the budget passed. 3 days but really only 1. To me that is more of a warning shot than anything. And we were lucky to get that. Hell, Schumer caved in and gave Trump 20 Billion for the border wall and would have really looked like a punk had Trump not renegged on the Schumer deal and asked for more money. That gave him the chance to use the negotiate with Jello line and basically gave the Democrats the okay to shut down the Government.

I saw Gary mention Trump renegging on the first deal but I can't believe this wasn't a bigger story. PF used the term holding the workers hostage and he was right, Trump got a large amount of money for the border wall and was going to hand over the dreamers but then decided it wasn't enough money and changed the ransom to a higher amount after shaking hands and agreeing to the deal. That's a big story in my opinion but so cheating on your wife with a porn star, Calling poor countries shitholes and grabbing women by the pussy. Just to be clear on the last one, I was talking about Donald Trump, not Larry Nassar.

So the Government is shut down, PF's friends are worried about the Democrats not coming to the table and negotiating funding for the Government and what did Trump and the White House do this weekend for those Government Workers... Nothing. No meetings, no negotiations. They tweeted insulting messages to female marchers and said bad things about the Democrats.

Schumer and Mcconnell get the credit for getting things worked out today.

So I disagree that this is the time to fight. Help the Government workers, get Mcconnell to promise to have a Dreamers debate, enjoy the Olympics, take a Summer Break and then hope and that November comes quickly.

Everyday a new #NeverTrump is being born and it should be enough to help the Democrats in midterm elections. This was going to be a tough year election wise for us just because of the numbers but the President is making it a little easier for us I think. Speaking of elections. I was really proud to be an American when Alabama chose to elect a Democrat instead of a Republican Child Predator. There were some courageous Conservatives who chose not to vote for Roy Moore and I don't think they were given as much credit as they deserve. Especially from our Party. Those people that changed their votes didn't change who they are, they just decided that they would choose to do the right thing and not vote for that Monster. Now, there were still 650k who didn't make a stand but the few that did, made an impact on the election results. It won't happen but I would encourage Doug Jones to vote with his constituents in mind and not along my party lines. It's the right thing to do and the only way he'll ever get elected to a 2nd term.




If the Republicans took the "negotiating" strategy you admire so much they would have invoked the nuclear option (hey, if you have a chip use it, right?) then told the Dems to not bring up DACA again or they deport 100,000 illegals a day until they stop bringing it up.
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It is a telling sign that with 25 Democrats & only 8 Republicans defending in this years midterm that the GOP quickly put an end to Trumps nuclear tweet discussion today saying they wouldn't even consider it. Does that mean that they think they'll get to 60 in November or are they worried that they could lose majority this year and hand the Senate power to the Dems at Midterm. We'll see.

I know that the frustration TU has with the Democratic Party is the same one I have. How in the hell do we not have a better unified response/attack to the crazy shit that Trump does and says. This guy was caught on tape saying that he can just walk up to a girl and start kissing them and do whatever you know grab em by the pussy and people still voted for this guy. All moral and ethical grounds for not voting for him along with his lack of experience was the same reason we were all shocked when he won. Since then we're finding out he has cheated on his wife, he might not be racist but he sure says a lot of racist things and has some racist homophobic weed fearing friends. Oh, he also has an ego problem and is the biggest liar I have ever seen. Just blatant lies. You're right that he is not doing a good job but I think for me it was pretty clear that things were going to go badly, very badly from the beginning. Very badly, hugely badly. I think we just want someone in our party to do a better job of calling out all the bullshittery coming out of 1600 Pennsylvania Mar-Lago FL 90210
 

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It's absolutely pathetic. The GOP is always unified to get the best deal and squeeze every drop from the Dems. The Dems are simply not that way. They flinch at a moments notice. They just want to do what is right for the country which is to cave in to the GOP and move on to get fucked again later. :facepalm:

It's very hard being a liberal in this country. For christ sake you just have to look at the last Supreme Court nomination. We should have had a liberal in there but no they GOP refused and we waited almost a whole fucking year and then the Dems gave in. Fucking joke.
 

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It's absolutely pathetic. The GOP is always unified to get the best deal and squeeze every drop from the Dems. The Dems are simply not that way. They flinch at a moments notice. They just want to do what is right for the country which is to cave in to the GOP and move on to get fucked again later. :facepalm:

It's very hard being a liberal in this country. For christ sake you just have to look at the last Supreme Court nomination. We should have had a liberal in there but no they GOP refused and we waited almost a whole fucking year and then the Dems gave in. Fucking joke.

Just remember when the gop does fucked up shit like they did with Merrick Garland that is just good governing, when the dems try and get their shit passed they hate this country and everything it stands for.

That is how politics work in this country, and unfortunately the dems are a bunch of dickless cowards.
 
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