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For the last of Bush's years the headlines were how many jobs were lost, Now the headlines are that not enough new jobs were created.
Not giving Obama a pass but it is very important we remember where all this misery started.
 

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For the last of Bush's years the headlines were how many jobs were lost, Now the headlines are that not enough new jobs were created.
Not giving Obama a pass but it is very important we remember where all this misery started.

Hey Stevie,

Let's try not to bring up Gee Wiz any more?

It pretty well known that he is a doom bass and that he began the sell off to the Wall Street Porn Stars he bent the peasants over the bitch stump !
At least I got some lube and a reach around with some fall back investments and capital, but it is safe to say that all of our rectums have been expanded by these ASS HATS !

THIS IS BARRY SOETORO'S RODEO NOW !

And he has been running the elephant walk, be it in the front or the back or on his knees !

We are fucked !

Time to spit out the bit, don't chase the carrot !

RISE UP, PULL UP YOUR BIG BOY PANTS !

THE GREEKS HAVE, THE PORTUGESE, THE SPANIARDS WILL, THE EGYPTIANS DID, AND THEY GOT DOUBLE CROSSED. THE SYRIANS ARE AND THEY ARE GETTING WHACKED, YET THEY STILL SAY FUCK YOU TO THE EVIL TYRANICAL GOVERNMENT !

Sorry about the CAPS :facepalm:

Read into history, WTF is happening? Every Super power has crashed because of decadence. The System has failed ! I can go on and on, but I got laughed at, shoved aside as a fringe nut. Ok, sometimes I go over the top. But FFS what evidence do the people need when the Global Governments are crashing the economies of these Nations?

I know where you standing politically, but I also know that your beliefs aren't set in stone.

Your beliefs are, and tell me if I am wrong?

"Oh yeah Mr. Politician ass hat, what can you do for me and my family?" DUH ! that's easy ! Everyone wants that ! What can you promise us, my neighborhood that you will not break? In a perfect world Mr. Dick with ears, the 1st promise you break (lied about) we start a recall on your ass, and wait and see what your next move is? You fuck up twice Mr Dick Head, you are gone ! LUMI STYLE POLITICS ! NO VIOLENCE, NO GUN PLAY, NO THREATS, PROMISES

Another thing maybe Stevie would say, stop playing politics with hot potato issues !

Example: The Gifford Shooting in AZ,

Do not shit your pants and do the the DOTFA (DANCE OF THE FLAMING ASSHOLE) and go on a politcal crusade to ban straws and spit balls !

Help me out Stevie, ! Any more Ideas

Why ?

FUCK because I think in here most of us coming to a 150 degree turn migh actually like each other and find some commonality ? Except Duff, :facepalm: :toast:


There will be a time, trust me, were we will need the help of our political opponents.
Lighten Up Francis :0008
 

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For the last of Bush's years the headlines were how many jobs were lost, Now the headlines are that not enough new jobs were created.
Not giving Obama a pass but it is very important we remember where all this misery started.

This should end any arguement--

Don't forget to note Start and End figures


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The US Misery Index by President
January 1948 to April 2011


Misery Index = Unemployment rate + Inflation rate

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<CENTER><TABLE border=0 width=560><TBODY><TR><TD class=text_18px_t_black width=150>President </TD><TD class=text_18px_t_black width=130 align=center>Time Period </TD><TD class=text_18px_t_black width=70 align=right>Start </TD><TD class=text_18px_t_black width=70 align=right>End </TD><TD class=text_18px_t_black width=70 align=right>Change </TD><TD class=text_18px_t_black width=70 align=right>Avg. </TD></TR><TR><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=560 colSpan=6></TD></TR><TR><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=150>Richard M. Nixon </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=130 align=center>1969-01 - 1974-07 </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=70 align=right>7.80 </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=70 align=right>17.01 </TD><TD class=text_12px_t_black width=70 align=right>9.21 </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=70 align=right>10.57 </TD></TR><TR><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=150>James E. Carter, Jr. </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=130 align=center>1977-01 - 1980-12 </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=70 align=right>12.72 </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=70 align=right>19.72 </TD><TD class=text_12px_t_black width=70 align=right>7.00 </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=70 align=right>16.26 </TD></TR><TR><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=150>Dwight D. Eisenhower </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=130 align=center>1953-01 - 1960-12 </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=70 align=right>3.28 </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=70 align=right>7.96 </TD><TD class=text_12px_t_black width=70 align=right>4.68 </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=70 align=right>6.26 </TD></TR><TR><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=150>Barack H. Obama </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=130 align=center>2009-01 - 2011-04 </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=70 align=right>7.83 </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=70 align=right>12.16 </TD><TD class=text_12px_t_black width=70 align=right>4.33 </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=70 align=right>10.29 </TD></TR><TR><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=150>Lyndon B. Johnson </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=130 align=center>1963-11 - 1968-12 </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=70 align=right>7.02 </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=70 align=right>8.12 </TD><TD class=text_12px_t_black width=70 align=right>1.10 </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=70 align=right>6.77 </TD></TR><TR><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=150>George H.W. Bush </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=130 align=center>1989-01 - 1992-12 </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=70 align=right>10.07 </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=70 align=right>10.30 </TD><TD class=text_12px_t_black width=70 align=right>0.23 </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=70 align=right>10.68 </TD></TR><TR><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=150>George W. Bush </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=130 align=center>2001-01 - 2008-12 </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=70 align=right>7.93 </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=70 align=right>7.49 </TD><TD class=text_12px_t_red width=70 align=right>-0.44 </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=70 align=right>8.11 </TD></TR><TR><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=150>John F. Kennedy </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=130 align=center>1961-01 - 1963-10 </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=70 align=right>8.31 </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=70 align=right>6.82 </TD><TD class=text_12px_t_red width=70 align=right>-1.49 </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=70 align=right>7.14 </TD></TR><TR><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=150>William J. Clinton </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=130 align=center>1993-01 - 2000-12 </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=70 align=right>10.56 </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=70 align=right>7.29 </TD><TD class=text_12px_t_red width=70 align=right>-3.27 </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=70 align=right>7.80 </TD></TR><TR><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=150>Gerald R. Ford </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=130 align=center>1974-08 - 1976-12 </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=70 align=right>16.36 </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=70 align=right>12.66 </TD><TD class=text_12px_t_red width=70 align=right>-3.70 </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=70 align=right>16.00 </TD></TR><TR><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=150>Ronald W. Reagan </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=130 align=center>1981-01 - 1988-12 </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=70 align=right>19.33 </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=70 align=right>9.72 </TD><TD class=text_12px_t_red width=70 align=right>-9.61 </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=70 align=right>12.19 </TD></TR><TR><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=150>Harry S. Truman </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=130 align=center>1948-01 - 1952-12 </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=70 align=right>13.63 </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=70 align=right>3.45 </TD><TD class=text_12px_t_red width=70 align=right>-10.18 </TD><TD class=text_16px_t_black width=70 align=right>7.88 </TD></TR><TR><TD class=text_14px_t_black width=560 colSpan=6 align=center></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></CENTER>
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George W. Bush

2001-01 - 2008-12

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The United States is involved in peace talks with the Taliban, Afghan President Hamid Karzai told a youth group in Kabul on Saturday.

"Peace negotiations with the Taliban and with other countrymen have been started," Karzai told reporters after his earlier announcement on state TV. "Those who accept the constitution, freedom, democracy and development of Afghanistan can take part in this negotiation."

Representatives of the government and insurgents have been in touch, but there have been no high-level meetings, Karzai said. He added there was no specific agenda.

U.S. officials could not immediately be reached for comment.

The United States has said that the Taliban and other groups should separate from al Qaeda, renounce violence and abide by the Afghan constitution.

The U.N. Security Council split a key sanctions list on al Qaeda and the Taliban on Friday with an eye toward reconciliation in Afghanistan.

The move makes it easier to add and remove people and entities from the sanctions lists. The council also established specific criteria for having an individual delisted. The vote was unanimous.

"It sends a clear signal that now is the time for the Taliban to come forward and join the political process," Mark Lyall Grant, the British ambassador to the United Nations, told the council.

"I believe that if we can hold on to the territory that has been recaptured from the Taliban between ourselves and the Afghan forces and perhaps expand that security, that we will be in a position toward the end of this year to perhaps have a successful opening with respect to reconciliation, or at least be in a position where we can say we've turned a corner here in Afghanistan," Gates said, referring to political reconciliation talks.

Gates made the statement during his last visit to Afghanistan as defense secretary. Karzai awarded Gates the Wazir Akbar Khan medal, the highest governmental award.
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If ya can't beat them , join them

who gives a fawk.

Bin Laden is dead.

Get the fawk out of there.

We got other wars to pursue.

Libya, Syria , then Iran

much more treachery to be done before we
are through.

Alot more brown peoples must die if it is to end.
 

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Medicare paid St. John roughly a quarter of a million dollars for the double scans in 2008, but Mr. Anderson said money was not a factor in why they were done. ?We are an organization that last year did $75 million in costs of uncompensated care, so we are hardly in it for the money,? he said.

UNC Healthcare in Chapel Hill, N.C., performed nearly 2,000 scans in 2008 and none were doubles. ?I would be very surprised as to why that would occur,? said Dr. Paul L. Molina, the hospital?s executive vice chairman of radiology. ?Someone?s got to educate me as to why they see the need to do both.?

Carroll Rog?, a spokesman for ETMC hospitals in Texas, three of which had dual scan rates over 60 percent, said independent doctors at those hospitals ?hold varying opinions? on the value of the federal data.

?Combining these tests expedites the diagnosis and the care to the patient,? said Dr. Harold Smitson, who helps to oversee radiology at ETMC hospitals in Athens and Fairfield. ?These are small and rural hospitals, without a complete range of medical services, which are mandated to evaluate patients quickly and efficiently to determine the need for transfer to a higher level of care.?

The Medicare agency believes hospitals can and should do more to change physician behavior. ?Hospitals will say, ?Wait, we don?t order tests, why are you measuring us?? ? said Dr. Michael Rapp, who directs the Quality Measurement and Health Assessment Group for the federal agency. But, he added, ?Hospitals certainly have the ability to put in policies and to monitor what?s happening.?

Added revenue may not be the reason dual scans are ordered.

?It is because no one has looked at it before,? said Dr. Rebecca Smith-Bindman, professor of radiology, epidemiology and biostatistics at University of California, San Francisco. ?This is a brand new quality measure. There are very few of them out there.?

The federal agency plans to use other, similar measurements to rein in what it considers to be unjustified ? and potentially dangerous ? medical procedures.

?Modifying physician behavior is a hard thing to do,? said Dr. Pentecost, the claims consultant. ?And we are doing it. This is a very powerful tool
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So lets get this perfectly clear.

The hospital thinks that medicare patients need two ct scans instead of one as most others do.

It just so happens that the CT scans get billed double to the goverment for double the expenses.

How many other things are billed double to medicare that goes unnoticed >?


And does anyone catch on to this ?

Nope

Why dont we hear the GOP or the dems for that matter speak out on this type of problem instead of wanting to trash medicare.

Medicare would not be in the shape it is in now , if this kind of crap was not still going on.

Pity really
 

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Illy how about we stop bringing up Bush when the right comes up with new ideas to get us out of this mess instead of the same tired old ideas that got us in it? Okay Champ?
 

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Illy how about we stop bringing up Bush when the right comes up with new ideas to get us out of this mess instead of the same tired old ideas that got us in it? Okay Champ?

Champ?

With that it sounds again like an attack?

If not, I digress...

You can't change yestersday, you can only affect the now and tomorrow, right?

Yes, Bush fucked the cat, the dog, the goat and anything and everything in sight when it comes to the economy and the the future.

But what does Gee wiz have to do with the GOPs decisions now?

I am not a defender of the left or the right, I am a defender of what is RIGHT !

:0008 Peas...
 

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But what does Gee wiz have to do with the GOPs decisions now?

I am not a defender of the left or the right, I am a defender of what is RIGHT !

:0008 Peas...

They are the same ideas. So when one has awful ideas and the others want to continue these awful ideas there lies a common bond. As for an attack? I could have called u an asshat but then i would have had to explain what that means to Rusty.
 

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They are the same ideas. So when one has awful ideas and the others want to continue these awful ideas there lies a common bond. As for an attack? I could have called u an asshat but then i would have had to explain what that means to Rusty.
Yup. Every time a Republican asswart wants to pretend that the economy was a charging bull that turned into a wimpering mouse the day Obama took office... yeah, I think it's time to bring them back to reality and remind them that their guy spent 8 years burning Rome and it's gonna some time to rebuild it.

It's not that Obama's doing a great job. But the Republican plan for reviving the economy is to cut taxes and slash social programs, neither of which will do anything to create jobs and improve the economy.
 

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Champ?



Yes, Bush fucked the cat, the dog, the goat and anything and everything in sight when it comes to the economy and the the future.
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here is the problem I have with this.

I believe that Bush and Cheney and the crew schemed this whole end game scenario to put Obama in this situation.

And that is a sad state of affairs.

And when Obama was able to somehow keep us out of a depression, deal with the banks, Deal with health ins, and kill Bin Laden,.......

well you get the picture.

We thought we fawked Obama good but now look at what he has done . And he could win again in 2012 !

well holy chitballs
 

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Yup. Every time a Republican asswart wants to pretend that the economy was a charging bull that turned into a wimpering mouse the day Obama took office... yeah, I think it's time to bring them back to reality and remind them that their guy spent 8 years burning Rome and it's gonna some time to rebuild it.

It's not that Obama's doing a great job. But the Republican plan for reviving the economy is to cut taxes and slash social programs, neither of which will do anything to create jobs and improve the economy.

Trench, remember when daddy Bush and his trickle-down nonsense crippled the economy? Clinton cleaned it up and somehow these naive clowns thought it was Bush policies that cause the Clinton surge. Now they don't want us to talk about Bush Junior. Could u imagine if Obama did get this thing going? It would have been the same garbage. "It was Bush juniors policies that were put in place for Obama's success"
Why was it Bush seniors policies that made Clinton a major success but now it is all Obama and nothing to do with Bush awful eight years?:shrug: The sad thing is that Bin Laden was right. In his writings he said Bush senior came to Saudi Arabia and the people in Saudi thought he was gonna get them some justice and hopefully get the people on par with the greedy Sheiks. Bin Laden said Bush instead got a different type of message and brought it back to America. He brought the message that it is a lot better to see money in the hands of the wealthy instead of the citizens of the country and now we have this mess with the people to blame for being so fuking stupid not to realize it. Then we have guys like Dogs and Maggot who would slit their mothers throat if they knew five bucks would fly out of their neck. I can't stress this enuf. If these dirtbags get in charge again live below ur means cause this country is really gonna be hurting. Maybe the nitwits in this country need to hurt a little more.
 

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Not giving Obama a big thumbs up but the republican plan is the same old shit. Do people really think the country would be running better with a McCain/Palin ticket?

Look at what the fuckers are doing.. Stealing from the middle class and giving it to the rich and cry that the tax breaks lead to more jobs. Waiting to see how the business angle takes effect in WI. Its been 6 months and nothing has happened other than pissing off union people and making the Koch's a bit richer.

Mags says we have to give em more time... When in fact these same people were ready to slit Os throat after 6 months.
 
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