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Come'on BP, are you even looking?
Walker has us set for a balanced budget - something the Dems in the state couldn't do for the last 8 years.
Obama hasn't even put out a budget since he has been president - for, what, 3 years????
So Walker accomplished something for WI. Obama wasted his time on Obamacare, instead of focusing on jobs. So now we have a much higher unemployment rate, healthcare costs are still rising at similar rates, and the country has a ton more debt.
And Obama has had 3 years to really screw things up. Walker fixed everything in WI in 6 months.
No comparison. Walker is a hero, and Obama is a zero.
Hey, Dipshit, who was president until the end of 2008?
Yeah, yeah, I know. You'd rather take a kick in the nuts than face the truth - :mj07:
It is important that we do not let guyd like Dogs and Skul rewrite history. Some new voters might get the idea that the Republican plan was working. It wasn't. We voted them out in record numbers. We voted for change. We didn't get it. Time to change again. Only not to another Republican or Neocon.
Yes and what happened in 2010?
StevieD, don't be BLINDED by Obama, he's a FRAUD.
JMHO
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He did it with discrimination and the price of people's rights. Hopefully it will all work out and the people of WI will really benefit.:00x24
The whole scenerio that has unfolded was pointed out to you prior to election--but you did the ole-:00x7
You were emphatically warned that before 4 years was up you'd being doing the--
--"yes we did.":sadwave:
You can thank 2010 elections slowed things down-- where we "might" recover from the social engineering of 1st 2 years. I expect O will be tough to beat in 2012--will depend if they can get Da base (non taxpayors) out to vote and what status illegals have then. Expect we get big push to make them citizens prior to election-for obvious reasons.
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yeh lets try to give your do nothing Congress some credit before its too late.
:142smilie :142smilie
Scott, you KNOW that the House changing POWER, kept the Democrats from continuing to RAM their LEFT WING AGENDA, down the THROATS of Americans, you know, shit like ObamaCare.
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yeh I know but if thats all they could do then they are as worthless as tits on a bull moose.
They get control of the House so they can stop things. Only problem is they stop everything. Nothing is good enought to be considered.
our goverment process is a joke
only thing is , its not funny
and it hasnt been for too many years
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skul
Why cant you understand that we have to take the profit out of the health care industry sooner than later.
The main fight over the changes is doctors and hospitals and ins comp that have made too much money for too long .
Not only that fraud and corruption is rampant as I have posted many times.
you have a screwed idea about Obamacare
pity really
I agree that we need to do something but the Democrats are handing out WAIVERS like it's candy.
Don't shove a shit sandwich down peoples throats and start handing out WAIVERS to your district.
May 17, 2011 3:52 PM PrintText
Health reform waivers granted in Pelosi's district upset conservatives
By Stephanie Condon Topics Health Care .37 Comments
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Updated at 4:35 p.m. ET
Right-wing pundits and politicians, including Sarah Palin, are charging that the latest round of health care reform waivers from the Health and Human Services Department (HHS) are"corrupt," since nearly one-fifth went to businesses in House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi's San Francisco district.
The corruption claims, however, appear to be a stretch at best: More than 90 percent of all waiver requests have been approved by the HHS, and officials explain to Hotsheet that these particular businesses simply applied for a waiver.
Conservatives today have responded angrily to a report from the Daily Caller pointing out that of the 204 waivers the HHS granted in April, waiving certain companies from one specific part of the Affordable Care Act, 38 went to businesses in Pelosi's district -- nearly 20 percent of the total.
Palin told the Daily Caller that the waiver process was "corrupt," while Ed Morrissey at the conservative blog Hot Air called the waivers "political payoffs."
The National Review Online published a column criticizing the waiver program entitled, "Waivers as Weapons." Mona Charen wrote for the NRO that as laws like the Affordable Care Act grant more power to regulatory agencies like HHS, the chances for abuse of power grow.
The waivers granted to these San Francisco area companies, and several others, exempt them the annual coverage limits mandated by the health care reforms passed last year. The waivers typically go to restaurants and other companies that offer "limited-benefit" health plans.
Limited-benefit plans are often used to cover part-time and low-wage employees, and they typically have low premiums and high deductibles. HHS began granting the waivers after insurers threatened to raise premiums dramatically or drop their coverage all together rather than pay for the additional coverage required under the reforms.
In all, 1372 waiver requests have been approved so far, according to the HHS, while just 92 requests have been denied. Several requests came from the San Francisco Bay Area because the region uses a third-party health care administrator called Flex Plan Services. In March, Flex Plan Services submitted waiver requests for 92 of their clients, including 69 in California, 20 in Washington state, two in Georgia and one in Alaska, HHS and congressional offices told Hotsheet.
Steve Larsen, director of the Center for Consumer Information and Insurance Oversight, a division of the HHS, told Hotsheet, "HHS applied the same standard to the application from Flex Plan Services that it uses when reviewing any application for a temporary waiver."
He added that the waivers, which expire after one year, "are necessary to help ensure that the waiters, dishwashers, maids, home health aides, and other hardworking people can keep the health coverage they have, while we transition to 2014, when they will have access to affordable coverage in a competitive marketplace."
Drew Hammill, a spokesperson for Pelosi's office, said that the Democratic leader had nothing to do with the waiver requests or their approval. He added that the waiver process will be elminated in 2014, once the state-based health care exchange system created under the health care reforms is in place.
"It is pathetic that there are those who would be cheering for Americans to lose their minimum health coverage or see their premiums increase for political purposes," Hammill said. "The complaints coming from this crowd that supports ending Medicare is just another example of putting politics first."
Update: Richard Sorian, assistant secretary for public affairs at HHS, published a post on the White House blog this afternoon to address the controversy. He said "there has been no shortage of confusion and deliberate obfuscation on this issue" but said the Obama administration has been "completely transparent" about the process, publishing clear guidance on the application process on the HHS website and posting a list of granted waivers.
Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20063688-503544.html#ixzz1PlBYeZxV
Don't shove a shit sandwich down peoples throats and start handing out WAIVERS to your district.
May 17, 2011 3:52 PM PrintText
Health reform waivers granted in Pelosi's district upset conservatives
By Stephanie Condon Topics Health Care .37 Comments
Have Your Say Email Story
Send to a Friend44 SharesTell Your FriendsTweet ThisTweet ThisMoreShare It. Del.icio.usFacebookStumbleuponNewsvineYahoo bookmarksMixxDiggRedditGoogle BookmarksTwitterLinkedIn
(Credit: CBS)
Updated at 4:35 p.m. ET
Right-wing pundits and politicians, including Sarah Palin, are charging that the latest round of health care reform waivers from the Health and Human Services Department (HHS) are"corrupt," since nearly one-fifth went to businesses in House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi's San Francisco district.
The corruption claims, however, appear to be a stretch at best: More than 90 percent of all waiver requests have been approved by the HHS, and officials explain to Hotsheet that these particular businesses simply applied for a waiver.
Conservatives today have responded angrily to a report from the Daily Caller pointing out that of the 204 waivers the HHS granted in April, waiving certain companies from one specific part of the Affordable Care Act, 38 went to businesses in Pelosi's district -- nearly 20 percent of the total.
Palin told the Daily Caller that the waiver process was "corrupt," while Ed Morrissey at the conservative blog Hot Air called the waivers "political payoffs."
The National Review Online published a column criticizing the waiver program entitled, "Waivers as Weapons." Mona Charen wrote for the NRO that as laws like the Affordable Care Act grant more power to regulatory agencies like HHS, the chances for abuse of power grow.
The waivers granted to these San Francisco area companies, and several others, exempt them the annual coverage limits mandated by the health care reforms passed last year. The waivers typically go to restaurants and other companies that offer "limited-benefit" health plans.
Limited-benefit plans are often used to cover part-time and low-wage employees, and they typically have low premiums and high deductibles. HHS began granting the waivers after insurers threatened to raise premiums dramatically or drop their coverage all together rather than pay for the additional coverage required under the reforms.
In all, 1372 waiver requests have been approved so far, according to the HHS, while just 92 requests have been denied. Several requests came from the San Francisco Bay Area because the region uses a third-party health care administrator called Flex Plan Services. In March, Flex Plan Services submitted waiver requests for 92 of their clients, including 69 in California, 20 in Washington state, two in Georgia and one in Alaska, HHS and congressional offices told Hotsheet.
Steve Larsen, director of the Center for Consumer Information and Insurance Oversight, a division of the HHS, told Hotsheet, "HHS applied the same standard to the application from Flex Plan Services that it uses when reviewing any application for a temporary waiver."
He added that the waivers, which expire after one year, "are necessary to help ensure that the waiters, dishwashers, maids, home health aides, and other hardworking people can keep the health coverage they have, while we transition to 2014, when they will have access to affordable coverage in a competitive marketplace."
Drew Hammill, a spokesperson for Pelosi's office, said that the Democratic leader had nothing to do with the waiver requests or their approval. He added that the waiver process will be elminated in 2014, once the state-based health care exchange system created under the health care reforms is in place.
"It is pathetic that there are those who would be cheering for Americans to lose their minimum health coverage or see their premiums increase for political purposes," Hammill said. "The complaints coming from this crowd that supports ending Medicare is just another example of putting politics first."
Update: Richard Sorian, assistant secretary for public affairs at HHS, published a post on the White House blog this afternoon to address the controversy. He said "there has been no shortage of confusion and deliberate obfuscation on this issue" but said the Obama administration has been "completely transparent" about the process, publishing clear guidance on the application process on the HHS website and posting a list of granted waivers.
Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20063688-503544.html#ixzz1PlBYeZxV
Just curious, Scott, but why didn't we take the profit out of healthcare? Obama went after the smallest piece of the pie - why didn't he take the profits away from the Docs, Hospitals, and Pharma, where like 80+% of the costs are?
And, if we are going to take the profit out of everything that costs folks a lot of money, we certainly should have started with food and gas. Why not mandate those industries must be non profit?
And people pay too much taxes today - so let's take the profit (unions) out of government - who make better wages and benefits than the private sector, who pay their salaries.
At this rate, we will be a communist country - which is what many of the folks on this board are secretly hoping for I'm sure....
BP - do you mean by Walker not descriminating against private citizens by paying public employees better wages, better benefits, and better job protections than they have themselves?
Public employees should never have better benefits, etc than those who pay their salaries via taxes. THAT is discrimination.
I'm sure those in the Public sector that are good employees will do just fine moving forward. Those who aren't good won't do so well. Just like in the private sector. Seems pretty fair to me.
Not long ago Obama once again caved in to the Republicans and extended the Bush Tax Cuts to the rich. Since then the economy has continued to collapse. Why hasn't the Corporate Press harped on this. Imagine if the tax cuts for the rich was ended and the economy continued it's collaspe? Yet guys on here act like they are not getting everything they want. Admit it, tax cuts for the rich, at these levels, do not work.
Stevie - as long as only 53% of the country is paying Federal Income Tax, this argument is bunk. The "rich" pay the vast majority of taxes in this country already.
It's time to make it a shared sacrifice, instead of just 53% paying all the tax:
1. Raise all tax brackets by 2-3%.
2. Install a new tax bracket at $1,000 level at 40% or so
3. Eliminate "tax" credits (aka handouts) to those who do not owe federal income tax.
Do these 3 things, along with reforming Medicare and SS, and we too can have a balanced budget (like WI now does! :toast: )
They pay the most because they make the most. As long as they make the most they will and should continue to pay the most. Would you like to tax the poor more? You are nuts. How will taking money out of a poor or middle class person put people to work. Why not tax some of the money that will never see the light of day? The money you would be taking from the Middle Class and below would be money that otherwise would be put back into the economy. But the overly rich are just sitting on it. As proved by the Bush Tax Cuts.
