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recovery summer?
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You will always have people that take advantage of the system. You would have to ask rusty about that. However, you can't penalize 98% of the population for the actions of rusty.
We are in the greatest nation that has ever been and we can't even agree that everyone should have basic health coverage. What a joke. Do you think people on welfare are actually happy about it? Shit happens. I honestly don't know anyone on welfare but do you think these people are jumping up and down for their checks? The bottom line is that in the US we should have a much better support system for the poor. It's a shame that we don't. The funny thing is that we are one of the worst countries when it comes to helping out those that need assistance. Of course we are number one in killing innocent people around the world. It's just a sick time.
you are the dumbest smart person i will ever meet. It"s too bad - you had potential, kid
Mags is that the standard plan that teachers have or is it one of their options? We have a plan something like that but it cost the employee about $1000 a month out of his pay.
I have what most have which is $35 co pays for doctors, $100 for ER, $100 for exray. $250 per person Deductable. 10-25-50 for scripts. In fact I an not taking one pill my doctor wants me to take because it is $50 bucks a month.
I think that is more like the average Public Worker for which I pay 25% of the premiums. I bet that is comparable to big private companies.
In our school district, that is the plan the teachers are given - oh, yea, they are paying $0 premium for this plan. Yep, that's right - a no cost sharing plan that they were paying $0 for.
However, you must realize that WI has huge problems with these type of plans in the public sector. Going forward (thank you Scott Walker), the teachers will be paying 12.6% of the health care costs - which is still a much better deal than teachers in other states get.
WI has been so far out of the norm in term of Public benefits - which is why the unions are fighting so hard to keep them.....and why there is such a revolt among the working class here. People that were not union government employees had no idea how good the teachers, et al had in terms of benefits.
One of the best things that this whole discussion in WI has brought out was the public awareness of the benefit packages public employees were getting. Working people are appalled. The transparency that has been brought about by the political issues has been good for the taxpayer, who previously had no idea of how generous the public sector benefits had been.....
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It lifts mood,which for some outweigh the moneyTo say it doesn't change your life IMO is false.Money isn't the answer joy and happyness far outweigh money.
I have no problem with teachers having to pay for benefits and most the people I have talked to are not against it either. It's the right to bargain that pisses the people I know off.
Plus the fact that he would not go after the public employees who supported his campaign. It looks like he cares more about the political agenda. Me and you will never agree about unions. Yeah maybe some of them get too much but many had to fight for years and years to get what they got. Without unions we would all be working for a lot less.
I think if the Vikings ever won a Super Bowl it would change mine.. :facepalm:
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Keep throwing money down the drain then. We'll see how the Patriot's Super Bowl Titles help you pay the heating bill when you have no money left from buying Tom Brady jerseys.
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BP - I realize we have a difference of opinion. But the encouraging thing is, you are respectful when stating your opinions, rather than derogatory or vulgar (as some other posters are). I wish more folks could discuss politics (including our politicians) without getting derogatory or vulgar.....
You mean like these quotes from you, Maggot?
if your blow job buddy Obama would have...
Hey, Duffy, at least she is not 80 years old, as yours appeared to be from the posted pic...
He's a liar and a pig.
I'll admit, normally I am against the killing of defenseless, unborn babies. But I would have made an exception for you, Spongie!
Then why did Obama have the Dems vote the reimportation bill down, dumb a**????
OK, ignorant one, you said this:
Here you go, Muffy the dumb shit:
Duffy, you dumb a**
Hey Ass Diver:
Yep, all your words.
It's vulgar that you're still breathing, you pus gobbling Maggot.
As usual, it is one of 3 posters that start with the vulgarity - and you are the chief culprit.
Most of the posters do not start that stuff - but you consistently do - as your above post shows.
Most liberals can't debate their positions without using bad words and personal attacks.
Duff - if you and Sponge and the other liberal who I can't think of - if you guys would not attack other members and call them names, it is a pretty safe bet that this would be a much interesting, cordial forum with respectful discussion and comparison of positions/ideas.
But, clearly, that is not how you operate. If you aren't calling people names, I guess you just can't feel good about yourself.
GO SCOTT WALKER!
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mags
why cant you just acknowledge that you too have called names and made personal angry attacks.
and maybe a apology of sorts.
Then maybe we could make some ground.
Its like you totally forgot you said these things Duff posted.
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I almost spit my water out when I read what maggie had posted. Is he a split personality or what? :facepalm:
Scott,
You are not being realistic. When I finally have resorted to names, it is always after being subjected to numerous derogatory comments and name calling. And I know the purpose of it - to deflect the real issue and to try to upset me. While I don't care for it, it doesn't upset me. It just shows the intelligence of the poster.
And it never gets better - a post can start out about the issues, but then if a liberal poster doesn't like my, Pro's, or DTB's position, then they start with the name calling.
Not unlike the Dems who call every Republican racist if they disagree with Obama's policiies.
I'd be happy to let by gones be by gones, but I have a hunch that some posters enjoyment in posting is tied directly to name calling of those who have positions that they don't agree with.
Speaking of recovery
I just saw Sen Sanders from Vt
He stated that the top 400 wealthiest ppl in the United States.
Make as much as 150 million ppl in the middle class.
Shit there are only 230 million Americans eligible to work.
And I would almost guarantee you that these wealthiest ppl are able to get around tax issues.
Think about this .
Any sane person dem or repub
how can we not raise taxs in this case .
this country is fawked
I just saw Sen Sanders from Vt
He stated that the top 400 wealthiest ppl in the United States.
Make as much as 150 million ppl in the middle class.
Shit there are only 230 million Americans eligible to work.
And I would almost guarantee you that these wealthiest ppl are able to get around tax issues.
Think about this .
Any sane person dem or repub
how can we not raise taxs in this case .
this country is fawked
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