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Tommy Shelby

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Arkansas has a good class it seems. Petrino locked in for a few years really helps obtain skill position players. Our QB is not much of a drop from losing Mallett....thoughts? We laso have nice facillities and a 35MM new set up about to get rolling for the sports department.
 

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Layin Wood. I agree with Cie. But the one real knock on Les Miles is his poor recruitment/ development of the QB. The Debacle with Ryan Perrilloux set us back a few years and then the transfer of Chris Garrett and loss of Lee to the Dodgers (1st round pick) has put us in a bind. Crowton has had success in the past with cerebral pocket passers (Tim Rattay) at La Tech but we haven't had that here. Both Jamarcus Russell and current QB Jordan Jefferson are elite physical specimens but very poor thinkers. Jefferson clearly cannot read defenses and given all his wonderful physical upside he is a bust, to say the least. I believe Mettenberger will be the missing piece of the puzzle and I think you will see LSU in a few BCS games over the next 3 years.
 

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To paraphrase someone else, following recruiting is following the decision making of 17-year old males, maybe the least trustworthy demographic, who would sell their own mother for a hand job.

I'm not doing it anymore. I'll look and see who ND got the day after signing day

your perspective has certainly changed on this topic in the last 2 or 3 years. What was the cause? :shrug:
 

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Being gutted by signing day defections. . . staying up at night knowing that Urban Meyer is texting your recruits and there's nothing that you can do about it. . . not being able to eat lunch because Pete Carroll is completely unaware of why all of his recruits are driving the same car.

It's still very important, but it's only one piece of the puzzle and I can figure it all our once the letters are in.
 

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your perspective has certainly changed on this topic in the last 2 or 3 years. What was the cause? :shrug:

I am sure it had nothing to do with ND hauling in more 4* players than wins over the past few seasons:0074
 

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I am sure it had nothing to do with ND hauling in more 4* players than wins over the past few seasons:0074

And that's not changing despite kids not knowing Rockne anymore, not wanting to go to class anymore, wanting to be on a beach, despite ND being irrelevant or all that other media crap that you think.

As long as there's good, mature kids who know that they are making a 40-year decision, there's going to be recruiting success at Notre Dame. . . and now we've got coaches, too.

I wouldn't worry about it, though because as long as there's kids who'll sell out on the cheap, the middle-tier SEC schools will be fine too
 

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And that's not changing despite kids not knowing Rockne anymore, not wanting to go to class anymore, wanting to be on a beach, despite ND being irrelevant or all that other media crap that you think.

As long as there's good, mature kids who know that they are making a 40-year decision, there's going to be recruiting success at Notre Dame. . . and now we've got coaches, too.

I wouldn't worry about it, though because as long as there's kids who'll sell out on the cheap, the middle-tier SEC schools will be fine too


I'm not worried about the middle tier SEC schools. Arky and Tenn can fend for themselves;) I'm wearing shorts today, while roads are probably frozen in fayettevile and knoxville.


You know I'm joshing you about ND, but there is no doubt that the south is taking over recruting. That said, LSU only has 3 5* players this season because this is a betterthan average year in the state. It's rare to pull a 5* player from OOS. Miles did it with Patrick Peterson and Spencer Ware the past couple of years, but can't hold your breath on those types of OOS signings at LSU. Bama on the other hand, does have that ability. Til Saban leaves, they will be the top program in ncaa football....
 

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As long as there's good, mature kids who know that they are making a 40-year decision, there's going to be recruiting success at Notre Dame. . . and now we've got coaches, too.

It's amazing that mature kids have been able to continually make sound decisions that affect them for 40-years, but the coaching hasn't been there. Maybe they should look to some of these young lads next time a coaching search is needed.
 

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Those young lads are in the NFL or they're building economies or indoor plumbing in third world nations. Since Holtz tried to drag ND into the gutter, the administration hasn't wanted a figure head in charge of the program who thinks that he's bigger than the school, so you get some mediocre coaches, but that's changed but it's not without risk.

As you know, when you have a figurehead that becomes bigger than the school, it's hard to move away from them and then they become more and more powerful. And then, before you know it, you're throwing away 100 years of tradition and rivalries and moving conferences because the AD of Texas got to sit closer to the head of the table at some Big XII conference. Makes a program look B-level. You talk to yourself into saying that it's the right move and you can put on a brave face, but your still a member of a conference that you hate and you'll always know that you weren't their first choice.

But back to recruiting, will Nebraska be able to hold onto that top 15 ranking?
 

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Those young lads are in the NFL or they're building economies or indoor plumbing in third world nations.

Ryan Roberts plays in a rec league against BL and I.

As you know, when you have a figurehead that becomes bigger than the school, it's hard to move away from them and then they become more and more powerful. And then, before you know it, you're throwing away 100 years of tradition and rivalries and moving conferences because the AD of Texas got to sit closer to the head of the table at some Big XII conference. Makes a program look B-level. You talk to yourself into saying that it's the right move and you can put on a brave face, but your still a member of a conference that you hate and you'll always know that you weren't their first choice.

I appreciate the effort you are making here, but it is obviously flawed in several areas. The power/figurehead of Osborne you are trying to paint is negated by the sole transaction of him hiring Pelini instead of Turner Gill. As for the conference switch, different debate but I?m enthralled how your statements are uncanny in similarity to a political campaign.

But back to recruiting, will Nebraska be able to hold onto that top 15 ranking?

As of signing day yes. When Starling goes the MLB route it won?t be.
 

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I understand a big part of Nebraska going to the Big 10 but I still think it was a big mistake as far as football goes. IMO it will eventually more than hurt their recruiting. This years class has quite a few kids from Texas as their classes always do but if you look at the shift in the last 6 years you can see that the southern kids just aren't going north in big numbers. Yes, Neb is getting Texas players this year but that can be attributed to those kids watching Neb play vs all of the Big12 teams over the last few years.
Add more cold weather games and kids not seeing them play vs regional teams and I think you see a big hit to their recruiting base.
 

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I understand a big part of Nebraska going to the Big 10 but I still think it was a big mistake as far as football goes. IMO it will eventually more than hurt their recruiting. This years class has quite a few kids from Texas as their classes always do but if you look at the shift in the last 6 years you can see that the southern kids just aren't going north in big numbers. Yes, Neb is getting Texas players this year but that can be attributed to those kids watching Neb play vs all of the Big12 teams over the last few years.
Add more cold weather games and kids not seeing them play vs regional teams and I think you see a big hit to their recruiting base.

Yep. . . and most of kids started being recruited before the move. It will be a 5- to 10-year process, but at some point Texas will be closed for Nebraska.
 

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With Brady Sylve going to Alabama, Mickey Johnson leaning elsewhere, and Auburn picking off a number of kids in the state including Travon Reed last year, Is Les losing control of Louisiana?
 
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