RUGBY WORLD CUP 2003 (10 October-22 November 2003)

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No play tongihht as I can't have any confidence in wither Argentina putting on enough points or Romania stopping them, will sit back and watch the game instead.

However I won't be able to do this live as it is not being shown here in Australia :(
 

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Now that the British Bulldog has ruined what was a great rugby thread with his racist remarks, and his pitiful attempt to defend himself when it has clearly been highlighted by myself and others that the guy is the biggest fraud since Nick Leeson......I am glad that in my absence, Hoss has opened up a second Rugby World Cup thread, so we genuine handicappers can continue with the business of supplying a few winners.

What is more amusing is that the Bulldog has attempted to humiliate me (and my pet sheep), in the full knowledge that I was not here at the time of my posts to defend myself, as I have been away with my job. My mind goes back to the time during the war, when a few of the Americans on the site were having a dig at the British. The Bulldog was apalled at the remarks, and jumped on everyones remarks, and called them all racists. Now, excuse me, barring the fact that I have a sense of humour, are they not racist remarks that you made against the Welsh. Now your comments mean nothing to me.....I know you are in fact a sad lonely individual who never leaves his own house, and is fast falling out with everybody on this site (may I refer to your baseball threads). No wonder you post your plays in your community pages (apart from the obvious reason!!), as nobody can answer you back in there.

Bulldog, I, along with my pet sheep, have been on top of you from the start. I would say 90% of the stuff you have posted in these threads has been nicked. Now you either take your readers for mugs, but it was obvious during Wimbledon, that your plays were nicked from On The Punt. Your selections were virtually identical, and you would attempt to confuse your readers, by disagreeing on maybe one selection, by going the other way to OTP, but making it your smallest play of the day. Your countless cricket rabble was just a matter (in the majority of cases) a case of copying and pasting from the Betting Zone of Sporting Life site, while on some occasions your reasoning behind your plays was worded identically to Sporting Life.

So rather than me being exposed as a liar, regarding your rugby bets on Sports Betting, you must be nicking their plays as well, or it must be the biggest coincidence since OJ Simpson and his alibi, that you have both gone for nearly eight bets that were the same as ones sent out by Sports Betting.

I will repeat my allegation....well it isnt a allegation but a plain fact. Your so called '4' point bet on USA, and the '3' point bet on Bradford Bulls were not on your community pages at time of kick-off, I know as I checked!!! And my sheep will back me up on this one as he was sat at my desk with me when I was checking!! How many times do I have to say it???

Now regarding your so called 270 points profit, I bet I could double that if I was posting late bets in my community pages, and claiming to play spreads on cricket runs at ?100 per point. I have never boasted about my plays ever on this site, but when you can match my numbers, come in my office and see me (I will even introduce you to my sheep!!)

Now I carry a large amount of regret that in the two years I have been using Madjacks, I have had my first falling out with another member, but I wont be the first or the last to fall out with this abnoxious, pompous English twat!! I am sure you are going to come back on here and hopelessly, defend yourself, after going through your 'hundreds' of e-mails that you recieve thanking you for all the winners you post on the site!! The only good thing that has come out of this affair, is that nobody else has invloved themselves, and attention is still on the rugby, and not your gob!!

Now I will be posting my plays in the second World Cup thread from today, now that the Bulldog has poisoned this thread with his hollow growl!!

Right that is enough for me....I have been away for two days so it is time to put on my velcro glove and entertain my pet!!!

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Goodnight now..............Goodnight!!! :grins:
 

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Gareth as you are so determined to carry this on lets get the true facts out. Firstly I will answer your latest posting and then your pathetic e-mail that you sent me.

I will go through your posting and reply to your comments.

You say "his pitiful attempt to defend himself when it has clearly been highlighted by myself and others that the guy is the biggest fraud since Nick Leeson" Gareth you have proved f--k all. You have made accusations and when I have asked you to come up with the proof and get confirmation you have failed to do so.

I further more did not know that you were away on work business until Hoss informed me and that was after I had posted. I was not humiliating you. As for making a racist remark, I don't think so, as you say it was in humour much like Pawa calling us English "pommies".

You go on to say "I know you are in fact a sad lonely individual who never leaves his own house". There you go again. How can I be a sad lonely individual when I have a lovely wife and three children, and thats not including the present friends that I have and those I stay in touch with and visit from other parts of the country that I have left behind through moving homes. But then you say you know it all?

Then you say "No wonder you post your plays in your community pages (apart from the obvious reason!!), as nobody can answer you back in there." Well its little surprise really when I have to defend myself from such shit that is coming out of your mouth, well fingers if we are to be accurate. But that is something you haven't been, accurate. I have said that when you visit the community pages you should refresh the page. When I enter up plays I am prompted to save changes which I do. If I forget to then press "ctrl", "alt" and "F5" afterwards then when you or others visit the page you will have to refresh it. So it is advisable to refresh at all times.

Then later in your posting you say "I would say 90% of the stuff you have posted in these threads has been nicked. Now you either take your readers for mugs, but it was obvious during Wimbledon, that your plays were nicked from On The Punt. Your selections were virtually identical, and you would attempt to confuse your readers, by disagreeing on maybe one selection, by going the other way to OTP, but making it your smallest play of the day. Your countless cricket rabble was just a matter (in the majority of cases) a case of copying and pasting from the Betting Zone of Sporting Life site, while on some occasions your reasoning behind your plays was worded identically to Sporting Life". Gareth, I told you back late last year or early this year that I use many sites to find plays or to support my plays. My writing skills are not that good so what is wrong with using words written by someone else. I even remember saying this in replying to Hoss many months ago when he raised the point in a thread. Now then let me see, OTP made about 12 points profit throughout Wimbledon, I made something like 17 points. Yes infact some plays were the same as OTP as well as another site run by a MadJacks member here. Infact some plays were the same between the three of us. Did I copy, NO. Did I agree with their recommendations, yes I did sometimes. If I did agree, did I post all those agreements, NO.

Then you go on to say "I will repeat my allegation....well it isnt a allegation but a plain fact. Your so called '4' point bet on USA, and the '3' point bet on Bradford Bulls were not on your community pages at time of kick-off, I know as I checked!!!". And I will tell you again refresh each page. My play on Bradford was posted at 5.39pm (UK time) last saturday. Is that not nearly 3 hours before the scheduled time and the USA bet was put on at 4.17am (UK time) Monday morning after Game 2 of the world series in baseball had finished been televised by channel "five".

As you know I could have just as easily have lost 40+ points on the spreads as to winning 1 point or more upto a stop win of 150 points. Are you now going to say this was a late posting? So what if I make plays on spreads for large unit stakes, that is my choice. Just because you choose not to use a large unit stake, that doesn't mean no one else does. Perhaps you might play for 1/10th of a point. But as I said the majority of my spread recommendations are less than 1 point unit stake.

You further added "I have never boasted about my plays ever on this site, but when you can match my numbers, come in my office and see me". Well lets have a look, No I don't need to see you because I haven't matched you I've gone way, way, way, way past you. In fact if it was an F1 race I would have finished and you would be somewhere in midpack about 20 laps down.

Personnally I dont care if as you say "I have had my first falling out with another member, but I wont be the first or the last to fall out with this abnoxious, pompous English twat". Now then Gareth, let me tell you twats are useful so thankyou. If it wasn't for your mothers twat you wouldn't be here now, would you?

Finally in response to your somewhat pathetic posting and before I go onto your e-mail that you sent me, read my postings again because I did not say I have received hundreds of e-mails. But what more should anyone expect from someone who is unable to get the facts correct and who says he knows all of my business, and how much I stake here and what I wagered on there. What are you, my shadow. As for mentioning gob's, yours is in your ars because you talk such shit. Oh, and finally you are the poisonious one, shame you have so little venom.

Because this post will have to many words to be accepted in full I will continue with this by answering your e-mail in the next posting.
 

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Gareth, let us now go over the e-mail you sent me shall we; you write, "if you sit down and think about this for five minutes, you will realise that I have only spoken the truth"
Well I have sat down for some time and given it some thought and all that you have said is still bullshit.

Then you say "I am sorry but you started the aggro with the USA line".
Let me remind you that it was you who first came into the baseball forum shouting out that I dont play for ?100 a point on the spreads. Well how do you know what amount I play for. Secondly, I didn't come into the world cup thread to start an argument, I posted that the price was 5/6 then 4/5 and that a line was available of +29, which I admit was wrong because it was +28. As soon as I realised my mistake I came back and appologised. That was within 30 minutes of my original posting and before you had a chance to respond. But instead of saying firstly (as you did) that you check the lines and prices just before posting, you could have also chosen to accept my appology. However you decided to attack me and question me for a second time. So that comes across to me that it is you who has the problem and jealous of the profits that I have made.

Then you say "If you made your ?28,000 like you claim, then why the hell are you asking everyone to kiss your ass about it..go out and spend some of it. But we both know that you havent, and that I know as a fact".
You obviously have difficulty at maths because I have told you that one point stake for me is ?200, so 260 points multiplied by ?200 gave me ?56,000. Take out my families living expenses and all insurances / assurances and I was left with an excess of 35K which is being used towards buying a larger home because it's bloody near impossible to get a mortgage when you have no guaranteed income. Yet you know that because I told you. If I didn't look for larger property because my children are growing up and we need a four bedroom house instead of the three that we have at present, I wouldn't be putting my family first would I. And how do know what is fact. You do not have access to my banking accounts or my betting accounts for that matter, so it is only you PRESUMING. That is completely different from fact.

You went on further to say that you "would happily compare your rugby stats to anyones in the UK (Graham Woods, Mark Mapletoft), anyone, so please dont claim to have bettered my stats by 600%, because it is a insult".
Lets get this straight. I told you many months ago that I was helping out at sportsbetting and you asked me to ask the owner if you could supply your rugby plays to the site which I did. You didn't get the chance to supply those plays because the guy already has two people who supply plays who have a track record of six and eight years results and proofing behind them and in all honesty from what I have seen and been told they are better than you. You clearly cant read aswell as not being able to do Maths. 260 points that I have won compared to your 30 points is if I am not mistaken over 600%.

You go on further saying "Before you rush off to Madjacks, and reply to my thread with another torrent of abuse, digest what I have said, and deep down you will realise I am only speaking the truth".
Gareth what the f--k are you going on about. Truth!!!!!!

Is not 260 points 600%+ more than 30 points. It was the last time I did maths.

Then you stated that I have been supplying all the rugby plays to sportsbetting. Well I proved that wrong aswell.

Then I asked you to e-mail the owner and ask him yourself. That was a simple and reasonable request. But why not tell everyone that you haven't, and why is that?.... because your so full of shit and know yourself that your remarks and comments are what you had presumed and not fact as you so much like to say.

Then you end your mailing to me "Happy punting and I hope we can put this to bed"! How can you say that after all the shit you have said in these forums. I will happily go about my punting, as for us putting this to bed, I don't think so.

So you stay with your little pack here and keep telling them all personally by e-mails and this forum all your facts you have about me. But until you come out and show all the people here what you have said that I don't stake ?100 a point on spreads and that I haven't won ?28,000, then shut up. In fact Gareth, put up your evidence here by the end of this week.

Show all of us, that the community pages did not have these games on at the time the games started. Come up with documentry proof that as you say I don't bet at ?100 a point on the spreads and did not win ?28,000. Show all of us that I supply all the rugby plays to sportsbetting.

I have all the proof I need, but then again it's not me making the accusations, it's you. So unless you can support your claims by the end of this weekend, I have spoken to our solicitor and she assures me that there is a case to be answered for defamation of my character and we will proceed along the legal channels with the view of seeing you in court where you will have to come up with all this proof or pay the compensation. Good luck with all the documented proof that you so clearly have because as you say....."it's fact that I know" .
 

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Derek,

You are a very sad sad man. I really feel sorry for you.....go out your front door and get yourself a life. I told you in the e-mail (which he has edited by the way) that I am finished with you. I never wanted to supple plays to Sports Betting (FACT), and it was you who was moaning for months that they were not paying you, simply because they dropped your American sports plays which were performing so badly.

Send your solicitor down to South Wales......see if I care!! In fact why dont you come down as well......I will introduce you to the fish in the Bristol Channel at the same time. Of all the disputes I have seen on this site, you are the first to come on and threaten legal action because you cannot handle the truth.

Please stay out of the rugby threads in future, unless you are in there to supply plays. Please do not question anything I post, and I have nothing to say to you ever again.

Hope you remain happy in your fantasy for the rest of your life!!

PS Nice editing of the e-mail by the way!!!
 

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I don't believe you now deny that you wanted to supply rugby plays to the site.

As for editing your e-mail here it is in its entirety and people can once again see that what has been edited is so little and immaterial that it did not require responding to.

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You went too far....if you sit down and think about this for five minutes, you will realise that I have only spoken the truth, and if you was a honest man, you would not continue to deny the obvious. Nothing I have said has been a lie.....I am sorry but you started the aggro with the USA line, and it comes across that you jump from forum to forum picking arguments with a lot of people. If you made your ?28,000 like you claim, then why the hell are you asking everyone to kiss your ass about it.....go out and spend some of it. But we both know that you havent, and that I know as a fact!

You are craving for attention, and you have been for months.....do you not wonder why I dont ring, or e-mail as I used to?? I would happily compare my rugby stats to anyones in the UK (Graham Woods, Mark Mapletoft), anyone, so please dont claim to have bettered my stats by 600%, because it is a insult.

Before you rush off to Madjacks, and reply to my thread with another torrent of abuse, digest what I have said, and deep down you will realise I am only speaking the truth.

Happy punting and I hope we can put this to bed!

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So lets see what did I obmit;

and if you was a honest man, you would not continue to deny the obvious. Nothing I have said has been a lie

and it comes across that you jump from forum to forum picking arguments with a lot of people.

You are craving for attention, and you have been for months.....do you not wonder why I dont ring, or e-mail as I used to??

So as you can see thats very little obmitted and nothing to answer to. But Gareth you make an issue out of it trying once again to make out / or sound like that I am lying by editing out large chunks.


You are just so full of crap and I still note that you decline to produce proof of your statements you have made, so that really says it all doesn't it. Fabricated shit and lies.

I ASK YOU ONE MORE TIME. PRODUCE ALL THE DOCUMENTRY EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT ALL YOUR STATEMENTS THAT YOU HAVE MADE TO ME AND IN FRONT OF OTHERS HERE IN THIS FORUM. IF I COULDN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH AS YOU PUT IT, WHY THEN WOULD I MENTION LEGAL ACTION WHERE I WOULD JEOPARDISE MY FAMILIES LIFES AND HOME. IT IS YOU WHO IS DUCKING THE ISSUE. I HAVE ASKED FOR PROOF AND THE ONLY PROOF YOU HAVE IS HERESAY AND THAT DOESN'T STAND UP IN ANY COURT OF LAW.


Furthermore Gareth, you chuck me to the fish's. Now there a good laugh. I don't think so. :nono: Your not big enough or hard enough boyo. But suppose we will have to listen to how you've done this and that and you are a member or you have frends who are in the soul crew. Well I've been to Cardiff for football many times, I've walked up and down the cobble street the leads to the ground, (unless it's been removed in the last 10 years). I've had my rucks and yet I'm still here to live the tail.

Finally, I will post what I like in any forum or thread I wish to until I have been informed by the properitor or the administrators that I am not to do so.
 

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PLEASE!

If you guys want to continue this, please use email and not my forums.

This has been a productive thread and I'd hate like hell to shut it down.

Please, have a little courtesy for the other members that are looking for information.

I will be deleting any other 'off topic' postings.

thanks,

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On second thought, I think I'll close this thread.

Please use the other thread "Rugby World Cup (Continued)".

I will delete any fighting/off topic posts in that thread.

thanks for keeping the peace now.

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