RUGBY WORLD CUP 2003 (10 October-22 November 2003)

[Pumpkin]

Italy is on the move here in Aust and looks as though the line might start at 17.5 or even 18.5

Weather is windy, but don't expect any rain.

As for the game I think that Canada will compete for 30 mins for each half and the last ten will see Italy sneak away for the win. Also have tha game pegged as a high scoring match as both sides will enjoy having some ball especialy Canada as they have seen little of it against Wales and the All Blacks.

If the line does reach 18 I'll tae the plus otherwise I'll just watch a good game of Rugby (hopefully)

 

[kickserv]

Pumpkin...........+17.5 at Olympic........thought I'd let ya know

 

[Pumpkin]

Thanks Kick,

the weather has turned very nasty and it looks like the conditions will be awful, if you can take and under or get on the plus

 

[crookycymru]

Derek,

I wont come on here and apologise, and this is the last I will talk of this, but all your prop bets on the Rugby World Cup went out as plays on Sports Betting, and the first few plays also went out. The only games that didnt go out on the free e-mails was the two games that were not posted on your community pages before kickoff i.e the USA and Bradford games......now correct me if I am wrong but that strikes me as a wierd coincidence.

I dont need to answer to anyone, as I know what is going on and as long as I can go to bed each night knowing my plays are up before K.O then I can be happy.

I will put my play on the Italy match up just as soon as the result comes in!!

Now Derek, we have both had our say, and we are both using up valuable space in this thread, so lets get back to the handicapping, and hope to see your plays posted in the forum.

 

[Pumpkin]

Big storm just hit the ground (about 1 hour before kick off)- talkedto some people there, it rained really hard for 10 mins then stopped. This could make the surfce slippery etc.

 

[kickserv]

guess that's good for Canada then huh.........I know crap about Rugby, but I would anticipate horrible conditions would favour the Canadians :shrug:

go Canada !!!

 

[hoss]

Thanks a lot for the weather updates Pumpkin - much appreciated I wish that b.o.m. site was a bit more accurate though! This'll be the 3rd game that the weather forecast has been drastically wrong for I know it's a big country, but I'm only worried about the little bit with a rugby ground in it

still going to press on with the Italy bet (thanks for that line kick it is better, but sadly I dont have that book - 16 is a big number too). Just hope that Canada make some handling errors close to their own goal line + not the other way round

hoss

 

[Mr.]

throwin a unit on the Canucks

+17.5

and a unit on the moneyline

+659

:canada1 :canada1

 

[kickserv]

I'm with ya MR

 

[crookycymru]

I am not involved with this game in any way, but for anybody who doesnt have TV access you get can live scores on www.planetrugby.com

That should help the Canucks backers......cos they need it!!

 

[kickserv]

crooky.....all games are on live here in Canada

 

[crookycymru]

Thats good to hear Kickserv.....however it may well help for any other games you bet that are not on TV over there, as I believe Planetrugby do live scores on all games!

Lots of handling errors early on....looks good for Canada backers so far!

 

[kickserv]

well I know you'll be surprised..........but EVERY game is on live here.....not just the Canada game.....all of em

 

[kickserv]

Canada off to the early 3-0 lead..........oh ya we got this one

 

[british bulldog]

Crooky your an arshole. I posted 7 bets in props market here at Madjacks yet only 4 were the same as sportsbetting. Thats another lie that you told, as you said,
"all your prop bets on the Rugby World Cup went out as plays on Sports Betting".
Now I am not that clever but I do know the difference between 7 and 4 and it is not the same and is it not ALL.

You keep telling lies Gareth and you are going to have a nose like Pinocoho. By the way have you taken your velco gloves off yet or have you still got them attached to that sheep you keep at home for those moments of welsh pleasure.:142hump:

You wont appologise because your gutless and clearly you are wrong. You want the last word on the matter, well taffy boy you are wrong on all counts. Your not man enough to come on this site and publically appologise for stating lies, lies and more damn lies.

I dont supply plays for the site you mention in rugby.

My plays in the community pages are posted before start of games.

And oh yes I forgot, 270 points profit far outweighs 30 points profit that you make, although I would agree 30 points profit is still a profit and a good effort, but not in the class of 270 points. Even allowing for your lies about late postings would still make me 250 points profit. Thats still over 600% more than you. As quite a few others have said to me here at madjacks, it smells of shear jealousy when others start to attack you. So ride your sheep and stay in your own little world and yes you can sleep tight in the knowledge that you quote :bs: . You started this mud slinging so I suggest you grow up, shut up and put up.

I will also go and find out now what other games have gone out at this other site and see how many are different from what I have posted. This will prove that Gareth (crookycymru) is a

:liar:

 

[hoss]

Final Score Italy 19 Canada 14

Knew I should have gone with my first instincts! Weather did play a bit of a part as the ball looked very slippy early on - however given as every Italian back seemed far more concerned about looking at the oncoming Canadian, rather than making sure he had the ball in his hands first, they did well to hang on for victory.

Got to admit that once the cover was blown I was cheering on a Canadian win though :canada1 - they just didn't have the cutting edge to see it through though. The difference in the game when they got the line out sorted out was amazing though.....can't help wondering how they would have reacted if Italy hadn't made that awful mistake straight after going 10 up though.........

well done to those who had faith in their own..

hoss

ps the best bit about the game over here was getting the Aussie commentary (we get Uk commentators for the 'bigger' games) - those guys were hilarious, especially when Persico came back on with his 'nose bandage'!!

 

[hoss]

what's wrong with Sheep ? I'm sure Anders will agree

BB, there's no need to get personal - Crookys away 'til Wednesday now anyway...if you posts were posted on your site in plenty of time then I apologise - I'm sure you'll appreciate that its difficult to judge when you post on there as it's unregulated - I did check it on Monday morning not long before the USA game though.

Why don't you post them on here too? No bet explanations are needed if there's no time! Then we can all make money together + people who are browsing can make their own minds up which way to go.

hoss
always at his friendliest after backing a loser

 

[british bulldog]

Hoss, many thanks, but I had been told that I wasn't using the community pages enough and that I should be posting all my plays there so they are all in one place and not in various forums at MJ's. This when pointed out to me made sense and it was easier to post in one or the other.


Now if others would prefer that I came back into the forum and posted all my plays here, then that is what I will do and the community pages will have to be amended as and when.

I don't have a problem where I post my recommendations, its just easier and time saving posting in one or the other but not both.

 

[british bulldog]

Now then Crooky, as promised here are all the games given out by the site you say I am supplying the rugby plays to. You will note the difference.

The plays posted on Community pages are all games I recommended and personnally played. Some will be same as the site you mention but it is below 50% and one could say you have posted a number of plays that are the same plays as Hoss has posted. But I know that Hoss is often around during the days and you are out at work, so hence you can only post later.

Below are the recommendations from sports-betting with their advised stake. Alongside I have said if I played or not played and the stake I advised.

France -51.5 to beat Japan 2 points .....Played + I staked 1.5 points

New Zealand -75 to beat Canada 5 points.... Played + I staked 2 points

England -84.5 to beat Georgia 2 points.... I did not play

Cohen to score Hat-Trick 1 point.... I did not play

Any Georgia Yellow Card 2 points..... I did not play

New Zealand -60 to beat Italy 2 points.... Played + I staked 2 points

Fiji +29 to beat France 2 points.... Played + I staked 1.5 points

Argentina +17 to beat Australia 2 points.... Played + I staked 2 points

Cohen Top England Try Scorer 1.5 points.... Played + I staked 1.5 points (posted at Jacks before given out by site)

Wilkinson Top Tournament Point Scorer 2 points.... Played + I staked 2 points (posted at Jacks before given out by site)

Wilkinson to beat Grant Fox's record of 126 points in the tournament 1 point.... I staked 0.75 points (posted at Jacks before given out by site)

Wilkinson to beat most points scored by an individual player in a World Cup match (currently 45 points) 1 point.... I staked 0.5 points (posted at Jacks before given out by site)

Wigan to win the Grand Final 2 points..... I did not play


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Plays by me that are not at sports-betting that Gareth is so clearly bent on that I am giving all plays out on.


Super League Grand Final
3 units Bradford -4 to beat Wigan.... not advised at free site, infact they advised Wigan on the moneyline.

I had played Bradford nearly all season and recommended them to win the super league where the site that I am supposed to give these plays to recommended Leeds.



RUGBY WORLD CUP

Top Try Scorer
1 point Rokocoko @ 7/1 (Ladbrokes)
1 point Cohen @ 10/1 (Ladbrokes)


Top Try Scorer For Their Country
1.5 points Rokocoko (New Zealand) @ 3/1 (Paddy Power)


INDIVIDUAL GAMES THAT I PLAYED THAT WERE NOT GIVEN OUT ON THE SITE THAT GARETH MENTIONS.

1.5 points Romania +63 to beat Australia 10/11 (Corals)
4 points USA +28 to beat Scotland 10/11 (sportingodds)



SO BY GAMES BEING POSTED AND POINTS STAKED ON SPORTSBETTING TO WHAT I POSTED ON COMMUNITY PAGES ARE AS FOLLOWS;

Games/props that I played which are the same = 9 from 19
Games/props that I played which are different and did not appear = 10 from 19

Stakes the same = 4 from 19
Stakes different = 15 from 19


So total difference in games between my recommendations and those of sports-betting is 25 from 38 = 65.8%.

That is a long way from as Gareth quoted "It is obvious that you are the person supplying the rugby plays for the Sports Betting site".

That is conclusive proof and I still request that he contacts the owner of the site who will no doubt confirm that I only supply a few football plays, F1, and give out my cricket views which is all I do here at madjacks. And as it is here, I do it for free.

 

[kickserv]

so close.......Canada almost won outright........oh well