Sandra Bland
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He asked her what was wrong, and she told him. I didn't think her answer was out of line? He was behind her, she pulled her over to get out of his way, and he stopped her for no signal.
I have been stopped several times by the police. I have always been respectful and truthful, and all but one stop was easy and fast. I used to play ball on a police officers team. Never had any problems.
I'll be damn....this actually worked, being respectful....but there's no law against being a dick...:mj03:
Come on, youre sharper than that. Doesnt matter if this is the 1st or 10th time. In this video recording, he was rude and aggressive. He was upset at her response to his question and lost his cool. Armed law enforcement cannot lose their cool over a simple traffic stop. Imagine what this guy would do under pressure.
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I, too, respect law enforcement. In this case, the ticket was written. He simply had to hand it over and leave, but instead opted to flex his 'muscle'
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She wouldn't put out her cigarette so he told her to get out of the car. She said no and the fireworks began. What was he going to do if she got out, arrest her for not putting her cigarette out?
What was the glitch in the video? The video was working perfectly for at least 30 minutes, then there is a missing segment and then corrects itself and starts working fine again?
What was the glitch in the video? The video was working perfectly for at least 30 minutes, then there is a missing segment and then corrects itself and starts working fine again?
Sports,
I'm not and never have called for lawlessness. My stance is and always has been an equitable justice system applied to all citizens. What that means is cops don't get a free pass for "having a bad day" and end up killing someone or slamming a teen into the ground, or choking someone to death for a loosie (single cigarette). I will never ever ever agree that arming police with more power and demanding complete complicity from lay people is a viable solution.
Power corrupts people and if you can't see that there are police officers that have been and still are abusing their authority, then I'm sorry we disagree. However, I'll NEVER agree with you that a citizen's civil rights are somehow lessened when dealing with the law, quite the opposite. I don't believe that the cop had the right to arrest her in the first place. If he abused his power, which it appears he certainly intended to throw the weight of his office around, and it results in a wrongful arrest and ultimately her death, than he should pay just as much as a black homeless Muslim would have.
I have been stopped by police in my lifetime as well. I have been as respectful to them as they are to me and that's it. As a matter of fact, I've only had one real run in with an overzealous cop. He lied about his reasons for the stop, and then tried to force me to submit to an unlawful search. I was calm but very direct, I asked if I was being detained and for what reason. He said I was not being detained but he still wanted me to step out if my car. I asked for his supervisor and he gave up his asshole quest and I pulled away. Sorry you disagree but no way I'll ever agree that we should all just pull over, jump out the car and onto the ground with hands behind our back and ass in the air. Sorry but police are human beings and they make mistakes just as often as everyone else, the difference is they don't get in trouble like everyone else without a badge or money does.
I'm not and never have called for lawlessness. My stance is and always has been an equitable justice system applied to all citizens. What that means is cops don't get a free pass for "having a bad day" and end up killing someone or slamming a teen into the ground, or choking someone to death for a loosie (single cigarette). I will never ever ever agree that arming police with more power and demanding complete complicity from lay people is a viable solution.
Power corrupts people and if you can't see that there are police officers that have been and still are abusing their authority, then I'm sorry we disagree. However, I'll NEVER agree with you that a citizen's civil rights are somehow lessened when dealing with the law, quite the opposite. I don't believe that the cop had the right to arrest her in the first place. If he abused his power, which it appears he certainly intended to throw the weight of his office around, and it results in a wrongful arrest and ultimately her death, than he should pay just as much as a black homeless Muslim would have.
I have been stopped by police in my lifetime as well. I have been as respectful to them as they are to me and that's it. As a matter of fact, I've only had one real run in with an overzealous cop. He lied about his reasons for the stop, and then tried to force me to submit to an unlawful search. I was calm but very direct, I asked if I was being detained and for what reason. He said I was not being detained but he still wanted me to step out if my car. I asked for his supervisor and he gave up his asshole quest and I pulled away. Sorry you disagree but no way I'll ever agree that we should all just pull over, jump out the car and onto the ground with hands behind our back and ass in the air. Sorry but police are human beings and they make mistakes just as often as everyone else, the difference is they don't get in trouble like everyone else without a badge or money does.
Actually, she was in jail because he arrested her for assault, the outstanding charges were mostly fines not warrants, however she was arrested on a Friday night. They held her over the weekend pending arraignment on the assault charge because there was no judge coming in on the weekends as is the practice in smaller municipalities. She was set to be released that morning after she saw the judge.
Gotcha...in louisiana, outstanding fines become bench warrants once you fail to pay or appear. Apparently it isn't the same everywhere
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But what was he going to arrest her for before the assault? For not putting her cigarette out?
That's where he lost his cool and began acting unreasonably. There was NO reason to ask her to leave the vehicle.
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let`s be honest...he asked her to put out the cigarette...there are several reasons...one,people use cigarettes to mask other odors in the car(I`e drugs...that`s not a new trick)...2,someone that`s agitated and a potential for a physical confrontation(which she was),could burn the cop with the cigarette....
it`s not an outrageous request...what was outrageous was that she didn`t comply...that`s what started the ball rolling downhill...then she refused to step out of the car.....
He asked her to put out the cigarette after he had approached her return to his vehicle and come back to issue the citation, or in this case morning. Let's face it, the guy acted like a bully because he didn't like her response to his question. He lost his cool, then the situation got out of hand
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when he asked her to get out of the car,how did SHE know there wasn`t a bench warrant issued for her arrest due to her many outstanding ticket fines(she didn`t know she had over $7000 worth of outstanding fines)?.....the cop isn`t going to say "I want you to get out so I can handcuff you"...then he has an even worse situation.....she refused (again,after refusing to put out the cigarette...the cop has to be wondering at what point the woman is going to comply) to get out of the car...you can try and pull that"my rights" crap but theres a chance it`s going to end badly....just get out of the car,be polite and everything goes smoothly....if it doesn`t,sort it out afterward...it`s not rocket science...
granted,the phrase"i`ll light you up" looks and sounds terrible....the guy will be disciplined for that fuck up,no doubt and possibly lose his job after the woman committed suicide...he`s pretty much fucked...I agree that that`s the case...
but,I`m sure the guy stopped quite a few other motorists that day(he was on traffic duty,i believe,that was his job) without locking them up...
tell your young one to do what the cop says and to let you sort it out later,cie...it`s not worth taking a chance with their well being to make some sort of "point"...
edit"...lose not loose.......I am not getting enough sleep...:mj01:
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