Serious question about a speeding ticket

[Penguinfan]

This may or may not have been me so don't let your like/dislike for me influence your opinion.


Speed limit through a mostly residential area, but not a neighborhood so to speak, is 35 MPH and Driver X gets pulled over for doing 55 MPH. Cop explains the situation and without a doubt the driver was doing 55 MPH, this is not debatable, driver knows how fast he was going.

Driver explains he knew the speed limit but also knows the speed limit is a joke as 55 MPH is safe through that area.

Cop says that the drivers opinion does not matter and the law is the law.

Driver adds that he is a very skilled driver and can handle the speed/situation.

Cop still does not care and explains that the safety of the public was put in jeopardy so driver is getting a ticket.

Driver explains that nobody was hurt so basically no harm no foul.

Cop says that if driver continues to display this reckless behavior it is just a matter of time before someone gets hurt.

Driver says the cop cannot prove that and it is just speculation that someone may get hurt and the cop can't predict the future.

Summary, speed limit of 35 is a joke, driver is a good driver, driver meant no harm and nobody was hurt.

Does driver deserve the ticket?

 

[CryBoy]

Definitely yes.

 

[Cie]

Hahaha. Posted limit is 35, so yes.


Reminds me of marijuana. Cop cites you for finding small amount in your car. You didnt hurt anyone obtaining it and no one is hurt (probably not even yourself) when you consume it. Yet, it is illegal to posses in your state, so the citation (or arrest) is warranted

 

[yyz]

We have laws for a reason. I skirt a lot of motor laws, but if I get pinched, it's on me.

 

[pug]

This may or may not have been me so don't let your like/dislike for me influence your opinion.


Speed limit through a mostly residential area, but not a neighborhood so to speak, is 35 MPH and Driver X gets pulled over for doing 55 MPH. Cop explains the situation and without a doubt the driver was doing 55 MPH, this is not debatable, driver knows how fast he was going.

Driver explains he knew the speed limit but also knows the speed limit is a joke as 55 MPH is safe through that area.

Cop says that the drivers opinion does not matter and the law is the law.

Driver adds that he is a very skilled driver and can handle the speed/situation.

Cop still does not care and explains that the safety of the public was put in jeopardy so driver is getting a ticket.

Driver explains that nobody was hurt so basically no harm no foul.

Cop says that if driver continues to display this reckless behavior it is just a matter of time before someone gets hurt.

Driver says the cop cannot prove that and it is just speculation that someone may get hurt and the cop can't predict the future.

Summary, speed limit of 35 is a joke, driver is a good driver, driver meant no harm and nobody was hurt.

Does driver deserve the ticket?

No, the US would be a much better place if it only enforced laws in which there was an actual victim.

 

[Cie]

No, the US would be a much better place if it only enforced laws in which there was an actual victim.

That is an entirely diff conversation.

 

[pug]

That is an entirely diff conversation.

No, the question was whether he DESERVED the ticket. In my opinion, there should be no ticket because there was no victim. If he was speeding and he hit something causing damage or hit someone, than he should be punished harshly. However, if there was no victim, then the driver was likely driving responsibly.

 

[Cie]

No, the question was whether he DESERVED the ticket. In my opinion, there should be no ticket because there was no victim. If he was speeding and he hit something causing damage or hit someone, than he should be punished harshly. However, if there was no victim, then the driver was likely driving responsibly.

On the other side. Laws, however lame or useless, should be enforced. Of course, i def agree that speeders, myself included, should be cited. Roads would much more dangerous without traffic laws.

 

[fatdaddycool]

I see both sides. If I were the officer, I doubt I would issue the ticket every time. It would depend on the driver, meaning his or her age and experience, any passengers, time of day, etc...., but that is just because I am who I am, can't help it. However, if I am to expect officers to do their job correctly as I am wont to do than the law is the law, that person broke it, they get a ticket. I do think a written warning could suffice as well but all things considered........yeah they deserved it.

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[hedgehog]

This may or may not have been me so don't let your like/dislike for me influence your opinion.


Speed limit through a mostly residential area, but not a neighborhood so to speak, is 35 MPH and Driver X gets pulled over for doing 55 MPH. Cop explains the situation and without a doubt the driver was doing 55 MPH, this is not debatable, driver knows how fast he was going.

Driver explains he knew the speed limit but also knows the speed limit is a joke as 55 MPH is safe through that area.

Cop says that the drivers opinion does not matter and the law is the law.

Driver adds that he is a very skilled driver and can handle the speed/situation.

Cop still does not care and explains that the safety of the public was put in jeopardy so driver is getting a ticket.

Driver explains that nobody was hurt so basically no harm no foul.

Cop says that if driver continues to display this reckless behavior it is just a matter of time before someone gets hurt.

Driver says the cop cannot prove that and it is just speculation that someone may get hurt and the cop can't predict the future.

Summary, speed limit of 35 is a joke, driver is a good driver, driver meant no harm and nobody was hurt.

Does driver deserve the ticket?

Was the driver an entitled millennial brat? :lol:

Of course the driver deserves a ticket.

 

[MadJack]

This may or may not have been me so don't let your like/dislike for me influence your opinion.


Speed limit through a mostly residential area, but not a neighborhood so to speak, is 35 MPH and Driver X gets pulled over for doing 55 MPH. Cop explains the situation and without a doubt the driver was doing 55 MPH, this is not debatable, driver knows how fast he was going.

Driver explains he knew the speed limit but also knows the speed limit is a joke as 55 MPH is safe through that area.

Cop says that the drivers opinion does not matter and the law is the law.

Driver adds that he is a very skilled driver and can handle the speed/situation.

Cop still does not care and explains that the safety of the public was put in jeopardy so driver is getting a ticket.

Driver explains that nobody was hurt so basically no harm no foul.

Cop says that if driver continues to display this reckless behavior it is just a matter of time before someone gets hurt.

Driver says the cop cannot prove that and it is just speculation that someone may get hurt and the cop can't predict the future.

Summary, speed limit of 35 is a joke, driver is a good driver, driver meant no harm and nobody was hurt.

Does driver deserve the ticket?

This gets the driver a ticket every fucking time.

Me: (license and registration ready when he gets to my car) Sorry, I didn't realize I was speeding until I saw you. I'll make sure it never happens again, officer. (shuts up)

I have a much better chance of getting a warning than the driver in your example.

:0008

 

[pug]

On the other side. Laws, however lame or useless, should be enforced. Of course, i def agree that speeders, myself included, should be cited. Roads would much more dangerous without traffic laws.

I agree that laws should be enforced. If they are on the books then all should be subject to them in the same way.

My disagreement is to the traffic law system itself. Of course, I realize I'm in the minority as the current system is what people are used to. The current traffic laws are not a deterrent at all, which is why you see widespread abuse of the speeding laws. The current system is not meant for safety but for generating revenue. What would be a better system for safety, in my opinion, would be one that has mandatory jail time anytime anyone is driving recklessly and damages property or hits a person. That would be a deterrent to driving too fast. Also, people would not have to pay the traffic law "tax" for victimless crimes that runs in the hundreds of millions of dollars a year. Lastly, people would be free of the intrusion of all the nonsensical traffic stops when there are no victims.

 

[pug]

This gets the driver a ticket every fucking time.

Me: (license and registration ready when he gets to my car) Sorry, I didn't realize I was speeding until I saw you. I'll make sure it never happens again, officer. (shuts up)

I have a much better chance of getting a warning than the driver in your example.

:0008

Have you realized in Costa Rica we have almost zero traffic law enforcement? If so, which system do you prefer?

 

[MadJack]

Have you realized in Costa Rica we have almost zero traffic law enforcement? If so, which system do you prefer?

The driving here is the craziest thing I have ever seen in my 61 years. Absolute insanity.

I don't know the stats at all but there has to be way more accidents per car on the road than in the US. If I'm wrong with that assumption, I will be totally surprised.

It's crazy. No laws are observed. None.

 

[pug]

The driving here is the craziest thing I have ever seen in my 61 years. Absolute insanity.

I don't know the stats at all but there has to be way more accidents per car on the road than in the US. If I'm wrong with that assumption, I will be totally surprised.

It's crazy. No laws are observed. None.

Right. This is a system without traffic law enforcement (mostly). You can drive how you want and not be hit with tickets. I'm just curious which system you like better. I actually like the system here better. You can just drive how you want and not always have to look over your shoulder for a cop. You can also have a drink or two at a bar or restaurant and drive home and not be worried about a DUI. The downside is you really have to pay attention and watch out for other drivers when you drive!

 

[MadJack]

Right. This is a system without traffic law enforcement (mostly). You can drive how you want and not be hit with tickets. I'm just curious which system you like better.

I think each country has what works best for them. I don't think the CR system would work in the US.

 

[pug]

I think each country has what works best for them. I don't think the CR system would work in the US.

You are probably right. People spend their entire lives in one system and get used to it.

 

[Penguinfan]

So, let me get this straight. Everyone (except Pug) thinks that laws should be obeyed and enforced regardless? Is that correct?

The results of the offense being committed don't/shouldn't matter, just the fact a law was broken is all we take into consideration? The fact that nobody was hurt in the process doesn't matter at all?


Is that what you all (except Pug) are saying?

 

[pug]

So, let me get this straight. Everyone (except Pug) thinks that laws should be obeyed and enforced regardless? Is that correct?

The results of the offense being committed don't/shouldn't matter, just the fact a law was broken is all we take into consideration? The fact that nobody was hurt in the process doesn't matter at all?


Is that what you all (except Pug) are saying?

My beef is more with the system. If you're going to have that system, then it should be enforced the same to everybody and a ticket should be issued.

 

[The Joker]

Driver explains he knew the speed limit but also knows the speed limit is a joke as 55 MPH is safe

I can't understand it. This usually works every single time.