Sony Open in Hawaii

[Agent 0659]

3 balls:


Jan-12 839 ADAM SCOTT (1ST RND) +142
5:35 PM 840 B.BRYANT/V.TAYLOR (1ST RND) -172

Adam Scott
25/35.50


Jan-12 843 JUSTIN ROSE (1ST RND) +112
5:55 PM 844 D.HART/T.LEVET (1ST RND) -142

Justin Rose
25/28

 

[Agent 0659]

Michelle Wie makes the cut:


Jan-12 12:15
371 M.WIE MAKES THE CUT +240
372 M.WIE WONT MAKE THE CUT -305


100/240

You go girl!!

 

[Agent 0659]

umm ok,



Jan-12
449 TIM PETROVIC (TOURN) 100
450 HEATH SLOCUM (TOURN) -120


Petrovic 30/30


Jan-12
579 CHAD CAMPBELL (TOURN) -128
580 JUSTIN ROSE (TOURN) -102


Justin Rose 25/25.50

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

--Since lots of attention on Wie on this week I'll take "friendly wagers" up to max of $100/prop on any of these--just to make things intersting

prop 1: Scoring>Wie will not shoot par or better in any round
Prop 2 GIRS>Will not hit 13 Girs in any round
Prop 3 GIRS>Will not average more than 12 girs per rd for tourney (less than ave of nationwide 125th player in 05.)
Prop 4: Driving Distance>Will not have any rd with DD more than 280 (less than ave of 125th player on Nationwide in 05)

 

[Agent 0659]

--Since lots of attention on Wie on this week I'll take "friendly wagers" up to max of $100/prop on any of these--just to make things intersting

prop 1: Scoring>Wie will not shoot par or better in any round
Prop 2 GIRS>Will not hit 13 Girs in any round
Prop 3 GIRS>Will not average more than 12 girs per rd for tourney (less than ave of nationwide 125th player in 05.)
Prop 4: Driving Distance>Will not have any rd with DD more than 280 (less than ave of 125th player on Nationwide in 05)

I will take #1 for Fifty!!

Is that what you mean by a friendy wager?

 

[pharlap]

72 hole matchup

Armour -110 to beat Brehaut


At 5Dimes

 

[Agent 0659]

72 hole matchup

Armour -110 to beat Brehaut


At 5Dimes

Like that one Phar!

 

[pharlap]

Like that one Phar!

You know, thats the only one I have found so far that I see any value in. I am really struggling this week.

Of course I found "value" in 4 matchups last week and lost 3 of them, so perhaps its not a bad thing.

 

[Agent 0659]

Well if you can find a good reason why Tim Petrovic is +100 vs Slocum, I will listen! Thats ridiculous!

 

[Whalers Rule]

Dean Wilson 200-1 1 unit e.w.

Justin Rose 50-1 although he was 66-1 1 unit e.w.

Also thought about Lehman, Gore at 200 on betfair, Moore, and Will Mackenzie at 1000 on betfair.

 

[pharlap]

72 hole matchup

Shigeki Maruyama -133 to beat Jerry Kelly

At Centrebet

 

[InSpades]

Dean Wilson 200-1 1 unit e.w.

Justin Rose 50-1 although he was 66-1 1 unit e.w.

Also thought about Lehman, Gore at 200 on betfair, Moore, and Will Mackenzie at 1000 on betfair.

How many places are you putting half the wager on? Is it top 3, top 5?

Are you putting 1 unit "to win" and 1 unit "To Place or splitting that one unit between "To Win" and "To Place?

IS

 

[lostinamerica]

InSpades:

I think this earlier post is fairly accurate regarding most e.w. wagers (although each capper may deviate somewhat in certain circumstances):

I hope Stanley doesn't mind, but I copied and pasted this from his Web site . . . An each-way bet is a bet that combines (to equal stakes) a win-only (futures) bet with a place-only bet. The place-only odds are typically 1/4 the win-only odds . . . Obviously it is better to have more places and a bigger fraction for the place-only odds, though I will always prefer 5 places at 1/5 odds to 4 places at 1/4 odds at the same full outright price . . . Most books offer the each-way bet as a option, while it is possible to make your own each-way bet at books like Five Dimes, Centrebet and Olympic who offer the win-only and place-only odds separately but not as a bundled each-way option. Simply place half your stake on the player to win outright and the other half of your stake on the player to be placed.

OUTRIGHTS:

Justin Rose(60/1) e.w. @ 5dimes
Jerry Kelly(80/1) e.w. @ 5dimes
Charles Howell(33/1) e.w. @ 5dimes
Peter Lonard(80/1) e.w. @ Bet365
Ryan Moore(80/1) e.w. @ 5dimes
Dean Wilson(200/1) e.w. @ 5dimes

- - Clear back to emerging from the crucible of 21 straight missed cuts, Justin Rose has known where he is going and been figuring it out in ways that will deliver on his can't miss potential, and I'll continue to tag along http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,378-1970509,00.html . . . My plays on Jerry Kelly are exceedingly rare, but I love the fact he missed the cut here to start his frustrating campaign through last year . . . I don't know how he'll score, but I'd be very disappointed to hear and see information that CHIII is not as prepared as he knows how in order to quickly make the only statement that really matters . . . Conventional wisdom says tread lightly with players that were blown off the planet last week, but the streaky Lonard surprised me last week with signs of life and a creditable short game off his recent knee scope, and this week's venue has to be more to his liking in every respect . . . Ryan Moore and Dean Wilson get a final nod - instead of Tom Lehman - as players I would kick myself over if sparks fly and I left them off my card just because it was already full up.



MATCHUPS:

Bryant(-105) over Perry (Tournament) @ 5dimes
Lonard(+138) over Roberts/Beem (R1) @ Bet365
Howell(+105) over Scott (Tournament) @ 5dimes



GL

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

"I will take #1 for Fifty!!
++++++++++++++++++++++++
That will be fine--in fact I plan on coming up your way for golf in summer--we can make the wager for green fees and keep it real friendly.--I will also give you the other 3 props for free--if she does any of the 4 you win--however I am expecting a stroke or 2 in return when we tee em up

 

[sports student]

1st round at Bestline:

Bryant +110 over Scott

just a little book info here guys. I have some money left over from football at Bestline otherwise may have not even known this. So far they have had matchups day to day. Even though it is a 30 cent line their day to day matchups are highly tilted toward the bigger names, enough that you can't find as good as price anywhere on the dogs. (as far as I know) Might be worth checking out if you like to play day to day.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

I am always bitching about incompetant sports writers that are clueless to course conditions pre tourney--here is with a doubt the most accurate I have yet to find--VERY knowledgable fellow and on sight--been folling his reports since late last year and he has been right on.

SONY OPEN INSIDE TRACK
By Harry Emanuel

Click here for Dave Tindall betting preview

The Sony Open held at the Waialae Country Club Golf Course in Honolulu is the first full field tournament of the 2006 PGA Tour Season. This tournament will provide the players with a good test of golf.

The Par 70 course plays 7060 yards and is set up in a very similar way to previous years. It is a tight track which demands accuracy off the tee. Accuracy will be very important because as Bart Bryant pointed out: "The rough is decent this week."

When asked to elaborate he explained: "It is fairly penal which means players will be punished for going in the rough. You can get some really tough lies and will be unable to shoot for the green."

Jim Furyk called the rough "gnarly" and only by keeping the ball on the fairway this week will players have a decent chance of hitting the small greens.

The greens seem to be a little slower and grainier this week according to Furyk, but they are still some of the best Bermuda greens these players will encounter.

The course is not complicated until the wind blows. The last few years the breeze has been a Kona wind out of the south west but this year the trade winds are back. This means that the wind will be blowing across most holes from the north east. This will be a change for the younger players and Justin Rose said that this week he felt "he was learning to play the course all over again".

As for a winning score Furyk summed it up pretty well, saying: "If it blows hard then double digits will be a good score but if not expect to see a lot of 66s." It is forecast to blow hard this week, particularly on Friday and Saturday.

Bart Bryant feels the shorter hitters like him have a real chance compared to last week where he reckoned they could not compete effectively against the longer hitters. Last week he hit only one par five in two shots but said everyone can reach them this week, negating the advantages for long hitters. To prove the point he made an eagle on the ninth in the pro-am on Wednesday.

Below are the holes averages for the last two years:


Hole Yards Par Sc Av Rank

1 488 4 4.39 1
2 426 4 4.08 8
3 423 4 4.11 6
4 203 3 3.04 9
5 466 4 4.19 4
6 459 4 4.22 3
7 167 3 2.91 14
8 459 4 4.09 7
9 510 5 4.33 18
3,601 35 35.35
10 353 4 3.78 16
11 196 3 3.01 12
12 446 4 4.00 13
13 478 4 4.30 2
14 433 4 4.03 11
15 396 4 3.90 15
16 365 4 4.12 5
17 189 3 3.05 10
18 551 5 4.61 17
3,459 35 34.79
70 7,060 70.13




It is a tough start here. The first was the seventh most competitive (out of 1008) on the 2005 PGA Tour, which is the third consecutive year it has been in the top 50 most difficult holes.

Last year there were only 20 birdies and 190 bogeys or worse. The second and third have a large water hazard running down one side of the fairway.

In contrast the ninth is rated the easiest hole on the course, yielding 26 eagles, 272 birdies and only 21 bogeys or worse.

The back nine plays slightly easier but beware the 13th which was 41st most difficult hole on tour last year.

Michelle Wie is grabbing the headlines again as she tries to be the first women to make a cut on the men's tour since Babe Zaharias in 1945.

She played a practice round with Justin Rose and their coach David Leadbetter on Tuesday.

I caught up with them for the back nine.

10
** ? Left 90y from rough. Hit to 25ft
JR ? Left 107y from rough. Hit to 18ft

11
** ? 3 low pulls off tee
JR ? Into 35ft

12
** ? Left 140y from fairway. Hit to 15ft
JR ? Left 170y from rough. Hit to 15ft

13
** ? Drove into right rough leaving 240y. Laid upto 73y and hit into 15ft
JR ? Left 215y from fairway. Hit to 30ft

14
** ? Drove into right rough leaving 150y. Hit to 30y. Chipped to 3ft
JR ? Left 115y from fairway. Hit to 20ft

15
** ? Left 199y from right rough. Hit to 30ft
JR ? Left 125y from fairway. Hit to 18ft

16
** ? Left 150y from right rough. Hit 35ft
JR ? Left 135y from bunker. Hit to 30ft

17
** ? Into 15ft
JR ? Into 25ft

18
** ? Left 240y
JR ? Left 220y

Will she make the cut this week?

On the positive side she's playing on her home course, she has an excellent low ball flight for windy conditions, she's improved her putting and scrambling since last year and has also been on a fitness regime and improved her strength. She has been practicing really hard and is mentally prepared.

Remember this is nothing new to her as this will be her eighth attempt to make the cut in a men's tournament. The windy conditions should help as she knows how to play this course in the wind better than anyone and it will make the cut higher.

She will definitely make the cut one day but as for this week you must remember that despite all the hype she is still a 16-year-old school girl who is not tournament fit. Her good shots are as good if not better than most male pros but her bad shots are considerably worse and she will just fall short again unless she can reduce her mistakes.

Quotes

Adam Scott: "I had three weeks off golf. I like the golf course and enjoy playing in the wind. So I feel this is a course where you've got to shape your shots a little bit and keep everything in control."

Ryan Moore: "It's a nice straightforward golf course and you throw that wind out there and it makes it really interesting. You don't get many holes down wind from what I notice."

Vijay Singh: "I love the driver I'm hitting. It's going the way I want it to go and it's tested good, so I'm really happy with it."

Jerry Kelly: "I've been working hard over the winter and been out here for two weeks getting ready. Missing the cut last year was an anomaly and I'm really looking forward to this week. I'm 66/1? They must be crazy."

Vaughan Taylor: "The last few years I sprayed the ball all over but this year I feel like I'm a better driver."

 

[sports student]

1st round at 5 Dimes:

Toms -119 over Faxon/Duvall

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

adding another top 10 wager
Lehman 9/1 at Sportingbet-AU



72 holes
@ Skybet-- Jay over Bill Haas -111
Golf Sony Open Haas J v Haas B Match Betting
12/01/2006 17:00 Haas J @ 10/11

@ Expekt --Bryant over Weir -112
Thu 06-01-12 18:00 Bryant Bart - Weir Mike
Sony Open, 72 holes
US PGA Tour 1 -112

@ Goto- Rose over Moore -110
still available
0441 R MOORE -110 - Thu 12-Jan
0442 J ROSE -110 01:20 PM *

1st rd
@ Wagerweb or Hollywood
Lehman +115 over Ohair (-1/2)
Other Sports - 507 Tom Lehman -? +115 for Game

 

[scrub]

Appleby -125 over Scott 1.25 units to win one

Maruyama -120 over Choi 3.60 units to win three

glta

 

[Agent 0659]

DTB, I accept your friendly wager of greens fees, and I will take the other 3 props, best 2 out of 3 for dinner after Golf!

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