The Open -- Carnoustie

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Lets get a thread going early. I just had the worst week that ive had in the last 2 years this week, so I pushed away the school work and have gotten on the grind for this tourney. I have one person who is supposedly in the field this week, and if he does play it will be my biggest bet of the year.
Anyway does anyone have any thoughts on the open?
My leans are.. Tiger, Furyk, Rose, Els.
Longshots.. Clarke, Leonard, Donald, Montgomerie (although he screwed me this week) :nono: Poulter

I think they played the Dunhill here once and besides that I'm not sure what else. (Anyone got a link to the results for that week)

Good Luck this week..
 
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Do they not yell get in the hole in Scotland? I dont watch much euro golf.. (I guess you can tell by my last few wagers). But the crowd is real polite and quiet, unlike here in the States
 

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One early bet for me despite no tee times whatsoever:

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Pettersson 100/1 1/4 1-5
At The Open after R1 (2002-2004-2006): 1-4-7
Recently after R1 (last 5 starts): 106-10-21-3-9
 

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Ernie Els to win 12/1 e.w. @ Paddy Power and BlueSq [6 places]
One win, one playoff loss and one 3rd place finish in the last five years is a very impressive recent history in this event and one that only Tiger (just) betters and he is available at one-quarter these odds. Throw in four years' of experience around Carnoustie in the Dunhill Links Championship on top of his 24th place in 1999 and a very impressive performance last week at the Scottish Open and he really should be Tiger's biggest challenger this week.

Vijay Singh to win 25/1 e.w. @ Paddy Power, BlueSq, BetFred and Boyle Sports [6 places]
Vijay also has four years' experience of Carnoustie in the Dunhill Links Championship and while he can't match Els' average score of 69 (the 2nd best of any player in this field), he still averages under-par over those four rounds and that is quite an achievement around the toughest links on the Open circuit. And similarly to Els, he has an impressive record in the Open Championship, being rarely out of the top-20 and finishing in the top-5 in two of the last four years. He has shown enough form this year to suggest that he can still win another major championship and there is no letting up in his work-rate and resolve: he has been practising at Carnoustie since last week! That shows how much he wants to win this event.

Stuart Appleby to finish in the top-five 17/1 @ Expekt
There was an article by Bill Nichols in last week's Dallas Morning News which looked at which players would be capable of a Van de Velde-like crash at Carnoustie and the conclusion: "Appleby has to be the favorite"! Most notably, he failed to hold on to an overnight two-shot lead in the AT&T National two weeks ago; he failed to hold on to an overnight one-shot lead over Tiger Woods and Justin Rose in the Masters by double-bogeying the first hole; and the week before, he trailed Adam Scott by one shot with one hole to play but followed him in the water. They sound a pretty convincing reasons not to back him each-way, but it should be remembered that he did manage to get himself into a winning position each time, which is something that all but a handful of players managed to do each week. Plus, he has won eight times on the PGA Tour, five times in the last four years, and came very close to adding the Open title in 2002 when he lost in a four-hole playoff to Ernie Els. But still, it's not enough to tempt me to back him each-way just yet, but I'll take these odds on merely a top-5 finish when has shown such good form in the last three months.
 
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Alright lets hope the big easy does better here than he did at Augusta. I'm goin pretty large on this one. Still not sold on Mickelson. :nono:

Ernie Els -125 over Phil Mickelson


I might add more on this one as the week goes on. Ernie Els hit the ball amazing last week(2nd in driving and 5th in GIR)
 

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was disappointing to miss out by a shot at the Scottish, but it was hard to come away from that tournament feeling anything other than positive vibes about my game. In many ways I accomplished what I set out to do. I mean, I?ve been working hard to get some form going into a major and, by playing some great golf at Loch Lomond, I did that. I?m hitting my new Callaway driver great, my irons were good, and I made some putts too. I tell you, I can?t wait to get started at Carnoustie this week.

Anyway, before we get on to that, let me just fill you in on what happened at Loch Lomond last week. Thursday was a perfect day for scoring; hardly a breath of wind out there, the golf course was in superb condition as always, and the greens were perfect. I began with a bogey on my first hole, the 10th, but I got it to 2-under at the turn and was looking to push on from there. I didn?t quite give myself enough opportunities on the greens coming in, but still, any time you break 70 you have to take it. A 69 was a steady start, at least.

The start of my second round was anything but steady ? par, birdie, eagle on my first three holes! After Thursday?s round, which had been a bit flat, it was just what I needed to set me on my way. All in all, I shot a pretty solid round of golf; you know, I hit a lot of fairways and greens, and made some putts out there as well. My swing felt good and the putting stroke was definitely starting to feel better, too. 66 is always a nice number. I was really looking forward to the weekend.

Conditions were a bit tougher in the third round, with a blustery wind blowing across the golf course. I had a bit of an up-and-down day, to be honest. But I birdied the last hole to shoot level par, which wasn?t a disaster. Left me with quite a bit to do on Sunday, obviously, but I was still in there with a chance.

On Sunday, I hit the ball great; I really did. I was enjoying it and pushing as hard as I could. Towards the middle of my back nine I felt that if I could just get to 15-under par I might have a shot at winning this thing for the third time.

I was a little disappointed about the 16th, dropping a shot there, and then not making my birdie putt on the 17th. That cost me in the end. But at the time, you never know. I mean, playing the last I figured if I could make a three there it might get me into a playoff, so holing that 40-footer for birdie felt good. It was a nice way to finish. And as I said before, even though I came up just short in the end, shooting 65 is always fun and I left Loch Lomond feeling good about my game.

This really is a very special week in the calendar for me and thanks again to Barclays for running another great tournament. I enjoyed it, as I always do. And just before we move on?well done to Gregory Havret, too. He?d have been under a lot of pressure out there, playing with Phil, so it was a good performance from him.
 

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Ugh my book is such a ****ing joke :mj16:

No lines on montie, poulter, zach johnson :)mj07:), angel.. I mean wtf!!:com: How can you have odds on mike weir, hansen and leonard but not these guys. Im moving in with ridle..
 

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72 holes

Carl Petterson -118 to beat Robert Karlson

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I just checked your book.. go big on this one bud :scared

Jiminez -105 over Olazabel

Jose Maria Olazabal is still expected to decide on Tuesday whether he is fit enough to play in the Open Championship this week.

The double Masters winner has struggled with a left knee injury for a month and pulled out of both the French and Scottish Opens.

Manager Sergio Gomez said today that a small hernia may be the problem.

"There is still a chance of Jose coming, but it's a slight chance," he said.


Q. You said in Paris it would be touch and go for this week. What have you done since then?
JOS? MARIA OLAZ?BAL: I got blood tests and MRIs done. I've seen doctors and they gave me anti-infmallatory tablets to take. That's pretty much it. I played 9 holes last Saturday at home and it was fairly okay then on Sunday it started to swell a bit and they had to take off some fluid. I played 18 holes here on Tuesday and actually it was all right. The (left) knee was holding up but when I woke up on Wednesday morning it was the same scenario. The knee swelled up and I went to the Physio Unit and there was some fluid on the knee and they treated it. I didn't play in the Pro-Am. I managed to hit a few balls. That's not the problem. It's the walking. In the afternoon I got more treatment. Went to bed and didn't sleep well and this morning it was the same again, so there was no point in trying to play. The walking in the problem.

Q. So what are you doing now?
JOS? MARIA OLAZ?BAL: I am going back home and getting and MRI on my back tomorrow. I am trying everything because the MRI on the knee came back clean, so something is causing it. We need to know it is.

Q. The obvious question now is: have you ruled yourself out of The Open?
JOS? MARIA OLAZ?BAL: There is a question mark obviously. I will know by Tuesday next week. I am going to wait as late as possible to see if there is enough improvement. I will give it a try at home first. I will play 18 holes at home and if the knee stands up the following day I will probably travel. Otherwise I won't. I am seeing the doctor tomorrow. I spoke to the physio guys here and the father of Julian Pargade in the Unit is a doctor in France and he reckons he has an MRI machine for sports people which is more precise and they are experts and might pinpoint something that otherwise goes unnoticed. I go home first and have the MRI but depending on the scenario I might fly to France to get the MRI done there.


This would have been a 20 unit play for me..
 

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First Round 3 Ball Matchup
(Zach Johnson +165) over Grame and Jose Maria Ola
(Grame Mcdowell +155) over Zach and Jose Maria Ola

Basically if Jose WD's pre tourney then the play is null. If Zach wins the group, then I push.. since i am risking to win what i am betting on grame
i.e.
Zach +165 54 to win 90
Graeme +155 90 to win 139.5

If Graeme wins the matchup then i win 50 bucks.
If Jose comes out and beats both of them.. then i lose a lot of money :mj07:
 

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seems like the weather was really bad today
No one bothered practicing putts or chips around the greens because the green was too soft, and some of them had puddles on the edges. Woods was duly impressed when Pampling hit driver off the deck for his second shot (on a par 4), and doubled over in laughter when Pampling hit a 2-iron to the 176-yard 13th hole that didn't clear a bunker 150 yards in front of them.

"I didn't get there," Woods said incredulously. "With a 4-iron!"

Even more stunning was the yardage he had with that 4-iron -- 112 yards to the front, 128 yards to the hole.

Woods was grinding like it was the tournament and he celebrated as if he had won when his driver -- yes, driver -- barely reached the green on the par-3 16th, traveling some 225 yards.

"That's what I'm talking about, baby," he said.
 

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Well I took Vijay, and a few others to win.

I did not take Tiger....he was +270 if anybody cares.
 

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July 16, 2007



Date: July 19-22, 2007
Location: Carnoustie Golf Club
2006 Champion: Tiger Woods
FedEx Cup points: 27,500
2007 Purse: $8.4 million ($1.5 million to the winner)



2006 Recap
In what will likely stand as his most emotional major title ever, Tiger Woods claimed his third Claret Jug and 11th major championship less than two months after his father passed away. Before he let it all out in the arms of first his caddy and then his wife after taking the title, Woods proved he's far more than just the longest hitter in the game, unsheathing his driver just once all week on the short, sun-baked links at Royal Liverpool. Woods held off an impressive charge by runner-up Chris DiMarco to become the first repeat champion at the Open Championship since Tom Watson turned the trick in 1982-83.


2005 Recap
Woods joined Jack Nicklaus as the only golfers in history to complete the career grand slam twice following another dominating performance at St. Andrews. Woods finished at 14-under-par, five shots clear of runner-up Colin Montgomerie to easily claim his 10th major title. Woods put himself atop the leaderboard following an opening-round 66 and stayed there for the remainder of the tournament, taking advantage of his length to overpower the Old Course like only he can. The usual suspects rounded out the rest of the top five. Jose Maria Olazabal and Fred Couples tied for third, a shot behind Montgomerie. Retief Goosen, Vijay Singh, Sergio Garcia, and current U.S. Open champion Geoff Ogilvy were among six players tied for fifth.


The Course
1999 winner Paul Lawrie won the event with a score of six-over par. Jack Nicklaus once described the links at Carnoustie as the toughest golf course he's ever played. In part because of the unforgettably freakish breakdown by Jean Van de Velde at the 18th hole eight years ago, the Scottish links along the Firth of Tay on the North Sea more than earned its nickname of "Carnasty" the last time the Claret Jug was awarded at Carnoustie. Not much has changed since the 1999 debacle, except that the fairways will almost certainly be wider than the miniscule landing areas that greeted the pros then, but rest assured the course hasn't lost its teeth, and you'll be intimately familiar with terms like "gorse," "burn," and "bloody impossible" by week's end. Carnoustie holds back its nastiest surprises until the end, where the final three holes are among the most difficult in golf. The Barry Burn, which laid waste to far more players than just Van de Velde in '99, meanders through both the 17th and 18th holes, waiting to claim its next victim.


The Field
It wouldn't do fantasy golfers much good to play their top draft pick when he doesn't plan on teeing it up, which is why fantasy owners have to be very cognizant of who is playing each week. As a courtesy, we've provided this link to the official field as provided by PGATOUR.com.

Note: It's a good idea to check this list for the official field of players again on Wednesday, as it is not unusual for golfers to drop out of tournaments in the days leading up the first round.

**British Open Official Field.


Leaderboards
Royal Liverpool (2006 Top 20)
Player Scores Total To Par Earnings
Win Tiger Woods 67-65-71-67 270 -18 $1,338,480
2 Chris DiMarco 70-65-69-68 272 -16 $799,370
3 Ernie Els 68-65-71-71 275 -13 $511,225
4 Jim Furyk 68-71-66-71 276 -12 $390,390
T-5 Sergio Garcia 68-71-65-73 277 -11 $297,511
T-5 Hideto Tanihara 72-68-66-71 277 -11 $297,511
7 Angel Cabrera 71-68-66-73 278 -10 $238,952
T-8 Adam Scott 68-69-70-72 279 -9 $177,225
T-8 Andres Romero 70-70-68-71 279 -9 $177,225
T-8 Carl Pettersson 68-72-70-69 279 -9 $177,225
T-11 Ben Crane 68-71-71-70 280 -8 $129,891
T-11 S.K. Ho 68-73-69-70 280 -8 $129,891
T-11 Anthony Wall 67-73-71-69 280 -8 $129,891
T-14 Retief Goosen 70-66-72-73 281 -7 $105,034
T-14 Sean O'Hair 69-73-72-67 281 -7 $105,034
T-16 Robert Allenby 69-70-69-74 282 -6 $84,655
T-16 Peter Lonard 71-69-68-74 282 -6 $84,655
T-16 Mikko Ilonen 68-69-73-72 282 -6 $84,655
T-16 Geoff Ogilvy 71-69-70-72 282 -6 $84,655
T-16 Robert Rock 69-69-73-71 282 -6 $84,655
T-16 Brett Rumford 68-71-72-71 282 -6 $84,655

The last British Open to be contested at Carnoustie was in 1999. Those results are provided below.

Carnoustie (1999 Top 20)
Player Scores Total To Par Earnings
Win Paul Lawrie 73-74-76-67 290 6 $547,805
T-2 Justin Leonard 73-74-71-72 290 6 $289,026
T-2 Jean Van de Velde 75-68-70-77 290 6 $289,026
T-4 Craig Parry 76-75-67-73 291 7 $156,230
T-4 Angel Cabrera 75-69-77-70 291 7 $156,230
6 Greg Norman 76-70-75-72 293 9 $109,361
T-7 Tiger Woods 74-72-74-74 294 10 $78,115
T-7 Davis Love III 74-74-77-69 294 10 $78,115
T-7 David Frost 80-69-71-74 294 10 $78,115
T-10 Retief Goosen 76-75-73-71 295 11 $54,368
T-10 Scott Dunlap 72-77-76-70 295 11 $54,368
T-10 Hal Sutton 73-78-72-72 295 11 $54,368
T-10 Jesper Parnevik 74-71-78-72 295 11 $54,268
T-10 Jim Furyk 78-71-76-70 295 11 $54,368
T-15 Colin Montgomerie 74-76-72-74 296 12 $41,620
T-15 Tsuyoshi Yoneyama 77-74-73-72 296 12 $41,620
T-15 Scott Verplank 80-74-73-69 296 12 $41,620
T-18 Frank Nobilo 76-76-70-75 297 13 $32,027
T-18 Lee Westwood 76-75-74-72 297 13 $32,027
T-18 Bernhard Langer 72-77-73-75 297 13 $32,027
T-18 Andrew Coltart 74-74-72-77 297 13 $32,027
T-18 Patrik Sjoland 74-72-77-74 297 13 $32,027
T-18 Costantino Rocca 81-69-74-73 297 13 $32,027


Recent History
Year Champion Runner Up
2004 Todd Hamilton Chris DiMarco
2003 Ben Curtis Colin Montgomerie
2002 Ernie Els
2001 David Duval Thomas Bjorn
2000 Tiger Woods Vijay Singh

World Rankings
The following are the top-ranked players from the current Official World Golf Rankings entered into this event:

1. Tiger Woods
2. Jim Furyk
3. Phil Mickelson
4. Adam Scott
5. Ernie Els
6. Vijay Singh
7. Henrik Stenson
8. Geoff Ogilvy
9. Luke Donald
10. Padraig Harrington
11. Retief Goosen
12. Sergio Garcia
13. K.J. Choi
14. Rory Sabbatini
15. Zach Johnson
16. Steve Stricker
17. Paul Casey
18. Angel Cabrera
19. Trevor Immelman
20. Niclas Fasth
 

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Colin Montgomerie will make the cut -205

If this fatass doesn't make the cut. I am finished with him.

Angel Cabrera will make the cut -230
 
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link some might find beneficial--

http://golfonline.comfluent.net/golfstats/cgi.pan$bxscrtmnt&British_Open&yr&1999&pyr&mjr?golfstats

Sorry link won't high-light--will have to paste.
 
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Very int. market at Unibet, pity it's win only:
The Open Championship 2007 - Top Past Champion
Who will win?
Only these players count


Woods, T 1.22
Els, E 4.25
Calcavecchia, M 50.00
Leonard, Justin 65.00
Lehman, Tom 80.00
Lawrie, Paul 80.00
Curtis, Ben 80.00
Daly, J 100.00
O'Meara, M 200.00
Hamilton, Todd 200.00
Faldo, N 250.00
Lyle, Sandy 250.00
Jacklin, Tony 750.00

In my opinion you can easily scratch the bottom 5 - terriic value in anyone except Els and Wooods - I am taking:
Lehman 79/1
Lawrie Paul 79/1
Leonard 64/1
Daly 99/1
 
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