UFC 115 Liddell vs Franklin Vancouver June 12th

[layinwood]

Chuck Liddell vs. Rich Franklin
Mirko Cro Cop vs. Pat Barry
Paulo Thiago vs. Martin Kampmann
Ben Rothwell vs. Gilbert Yvel
Carlos Condit vs. Rory MacDonald

Spike TV Bouts
Tyson Griffin vs. Evan Dunham
Mac Danzig vs. Matt Wiman

Preliminary Bouts
David Loiseau vs. Mario Miranda
James WIlks vs. Peter Sobotta
Ricardo Funch vs. Claude Patrick
Mike Pyle vs. Jesse Lennox

 

[layinwood]

I'm really looking forward to this card for the watching purposes and for a max bet! :00hour

 

[kickserv]

layinwood............you forgot the :canada1

Bad error....very bad error:0061


Fight Card
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Chuck Liddell vs. Rich Franklin
Patrick Barry vs. Mirko ?Cro Cop? Filipovic
Paulo Thiago vs. Martin Kampmann
Ben Rothwell vs. Gilbert Yvel
Carlos Condit vs. :canada1 Rory MacDonald
Tyson Griffin vs. Evan Dunham
Mac Danzig vs. Matt Wiman
David Loiseau :canada1 vs. Mario Miranda
James Wilks vs. Peter Sobotta
Claude Patrick :canada1 vs. Ricardo Funch
Mike Pyle vs. Jesse Lennox

 

[gardenweasel]

already caught barry at brobury at -115....not sure mirko is even a shell of his former self....

what weight are liddell and franklin fighting at?...

 

[layinwood]

already caught barry at brobury at -115....not sure mirko is even a shell of his former self....

what weight are liddell and franklin fighting at?...

205

 

[kegray1]

layinwood............you forgot the :canada1

Bad error....very bad error :0061


Fight Card
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Patrick Barry vs. Mirko ?Cro Cop? Filipovic

And I think you had a spelling error on Cro C"r"op.
You are missing an "r".
This has to be the farmers last fight in the UFC if he loses.

 

[ukgaz]

Already jumped on the Franklin bandwagon. Chuck is a legend but I can't see him winning. Franklin via superior energy and movement.

Waiting for the Griffin/Dunham line to come out. I expect it to be close

 

[ukgaz]

Staying away from Mirko/ Barry. Mirko is clearly on the way down but he will have a big height/reach advantage in what will be a kick boxing fight. I'm not saying bet the house on him but if someone put a gun to my head and said pick a winner I would probably go with the man from Croatia

 

[kickserv]

Yep..........this has to be the last fight for "the farmer". I thought he would have called it quits a long time ago.:shrug:

Barry should finally put Mirko out of his misery. No way Mirko fights again after Barry smokes him.


Parlay Barry with everyone, I can't see Mirko winning.


I think Mirko will be put to :0028

 

[ukgaz]

Just looked back over Mirko's MMA defeats. They are all against guys that press him and make him back up. If you let him come forward he can destroy you. Barry has been vocal in his interviews and I expect him to move forward the entire time as this is a big fight for him. If he does not he will lose

 

[kegray1]

I can't see Mirko winning this either and the odds are lower than they should be just because of the name Cro Cop.
Cro Cop doesn't throw or kick near as much as he used to and everytime he fights, reports come out that he didn't train hard.
Age and lack of desire have caught up with Mirko.
This is a hand picked guy who will stand with him so maybe he lands a huge kick but it is doubtful as he just has not thrown that many since the leg injury vs Gonzaga.

 

[gardenweasel]

hardonk was 6`4"....barry`s a lot shorter than him but he beat him with quicks....

he looked very fresh and strong in the 2nd round...

quick hands...

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[layinwood]

Already jumped on the Franklin bandwagon. Chuck is a legend but I can't see him winning. Franklin via superior energy and movement.

Waiting for the Griffin/Dunham line to come out. I expect it to be close

Not too late to jump off the Franklin wagon. LOL I've always been a big Franklin backer but I think this is a bad matchup for him. I had Franklin for a good size play vs Wandy and I was suprised he eeked out that decision. I thought he would dominate but he didn't. Chucks length will give him trouble compared to Wandy. I also think Chuck will take Franklin down at least one time per round. I love Franklin but I think once he taste one of Chucks punches he'll shy away from the action.

If you haven't see a pic of Chuck lately you should try to find one. I can't recall seeing him look in this good of shape.

I'm watching the line closely but I'm pretty sure I'm atleast going with 5 units on Chuckie. :mj06:

 

[ukgaz]

 

[layinwood]

I really think this card is one of my favorite to come along in a while. I think some cards people like more than others because of certain fighters that really like watching. Martin Kampmann is one of those fighters for me. I'm not sure why because he's had some seriously boring moments but I think at some point it's all going to click for him. This should be a great fight with him going up against Paulo. It's a big fight for both guys.

The other fight that I think is probably the most interesting fight on the card is the Condit vs MacDonald. This could be a big time statement fight for Mac.

UKgaz, that picture shows a little of what he looks like but it's probably a few months old and he wasn't in a full training camp yet. It looks like it was during the taping of the show which should have ended in March or maybe earlier. Add two months of hard training and if Chuck has been as serious as he looks then I see him winning. Like always, I could be wrong and very wrong at that. :box2:

 

[weepaul]

I have a rare BIG bet on this card.

Danzig to beat Wiman at -105.

I just don't see Wiman winning this.

Good luck!!!! :toast: :toast:

 

[THE_THONG]

u gonna bet it at diamond or other book?

 

[gardenweasel]

I really think this card is one of my favorite to come along in a while. :box2:

love this card too,bud....anxious to see the new gsp(macdonald)...

are they having a spike prelim show?...how can you not show dunham/griffin and danzig/wiman?...

 

[layinwood]

love this card too,bud....anxious to see the new gsp(macdonald)...

are they having a spike prelim show?...how can you not show dunham/griffin and danzig/wiman?...

GW, if I'm not mistaken those are the Spike fights. Should be a great night of free entertainment and then a good ppv as well.

 

[gardenweasel]

GW, if I'm not mistaken those are the Spike fights. Should be a great night of free entertainment and then a good ppv as well.

excellent...btw..if i were the matchmaker,i`d have kenflo fight dunham and maynard fight griffin..like those match-ups better......with the winner`s squaring off for a shot at the beltholder..or both winners getting consecutive shots at a belt holder......give the guy that waits the longest a winnable fight and maybe a little extra green for being patient...

this way you`re all set-up with excellent fights for the foreseeable future..


maybe that`s a little unfair to florian and maynard...they may deserve the shots more...but as an observer,that`s what i`d like to see...