UFC 128: "Shogun vs. Jones", March 19th, Newark, N.J.
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UFC 128 Results: Lorenzo Fertitta Wants a Jon Jones vs. Anderson Silva Super-Fight?
I admit I would rather see this than the Evans fight. Dana also mentioned it at the Post fight conference.
So for Silva he has either GSP, Okami or Jones next
I admit I would rather see this than the Evans fight. Dana also mentioned it at the Post fight conference.
So for Silva he has either GSP, Okami or Jones next
Nuthugging????
I was about the only person on here who AGREED with your thoughts on the fight.
I WANTED Shogun to win.
Shogun tapped just like GSP.
These are facts!!!
Make sure you go watch the movie Suckerpunch. It is about someone who can't handle reality so they just make up their own.
In their mind, it's a World were Shogun and Wand are still undefeated and Shootbox is the most dominating team alive with Warriors who would never tap to strikes.
To me Nuthugging is when you can't accept your Hero just did something that you never thought possible so you pretend it didn't happen.
Remind you of anyone??????????????????????
P.S I don't blame Shogun for tapping as I would have been tapping the first 10 seconds of the match.
I was 100% wrong :shrug: :0008
I wasn't trying to mock you but I was sure Shogun could give Jones trouble from his back as he is normally so active.
Arona and Randleman are beasts from the top position but Shogun put them in shitty situations within seconds.
Jones shut him down like he was a child. The kid is a prodigy.
Well done to you and the others who picked Jones!!! :toast: :toast: :toast:
I was 100% wrong :shrug: :0008
I wasn't trying to mock you but I was sure Shogun could give Jones trouble from his back as he is normally so active.
Arona and Randleman are beasts from the top position but Shogun put them in shitty situations within seconds.
Jones shut him down like he was a child. The kid is a prodigy.
Well done to you and the others who picked Jones!!! :toast: :toast: :toast:
I was off the same view as you wp. I fully expected Rua to be on his back but expected him to be a able to mount an offense.
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Not post fight radio. The actual fights.
As in, no eyes. Listening, not watching.
As in, your interpretation of events is so off, it sounds like you are viewing without eyeballs.
Nevermind.
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To the naked eye, it appeared that Jon Jones was never in the slightest bit of trouble during his 205-pound title-winning performance against Mauricio ?Shogun? Rua in the main event of Saturday?s UFC 128.
Jones dissected Rua en route to a third-round technical knockout at the Prudential Center in Newark, N.J. Throughout the bout, ?Bones? seemed to go wherever he wanted, whenever he wanted, and Rua seemed helpless to stop him.
However, Jones? striking coach, Mike Winkeljohn, had a different view of the competition from the fighter?s corner. According to ?Coach Wink,? Jones had plenty of adversity to overcome.
?There was a turning point after the second round where we were real scared, because [Jones] was tired,? Winkeljohn told Sherdog.com after the bout. ?He had pressed all day long. Well, s--t, the whole last two weeks, [cameras] following him around 24-7. I think all that hoopla got to him, and the pressure got to him a little bit. He was tired after the second round, and I was worried.?
?But you know what he did? He pushed through it, and that is a champion. That is a veteran. At 23 years old, that is incredible. All of a sudden, in the third round, he just decided, ?Yeah, I?m going to win this thing,? and he just went to another gear.?
Jones, who unexpectedly apprehended a robber in a New Jersey park just hours before the title bout, opened the fight with his trademark unorthodox standup attack. Though many would view spinning back kicks and elbow strikes as risky maneuvers in such an important fight, Winkeljohn asserts that those techniques did not concern him.
?The spinning elbow and the distraction kicks don?t worry me at all. What worried me was that ?Shogun? was trying to counter Jon?s punches. That?s where I thought we might have been in trouble,? said Winkeljohn. ?Sometimes Jon stayed in the pocket and didn?t bail out the right direction or the proper defense. That?s what scared me.?
Though Winkeljohn saw room for improvement in his pupil?s performance, the revered striking coach spoke proudly of Jones? poise and skill under the pressure of the moment.
?I see the progression in the gym. I was telling everybody that he could beat ?Shogun? standing up,? said Winkeljohn. ?I?ll never say it was easy, though. ?Shogun? is very tough, and he was inches away from a few counters in there when Jon was punching. But, for the most part, [Jon] dominated. He stayed long, and he hit him long and often. He [used] angles and he took [Rua] down when he wanted to. It was a great performance. I?m very happy. It?s the beginning of the Jon Jones era.?
Up next for the new champion is a defense of his title against friend and fellow Jackson?s MMA product Rashad Evans. Though the two had stated in the past that they would never clash in the cage, it appears that mentality has changed. Trainer Greg Jackson has vowed to help prepare neither man in the case of such a fight, but for Winkeljohn, the situation is a bit trickier.
Jones dissected Rua en route to a third-round technical knockout at the Prudential Center in Newark, N.J. Throughout the bout, ?Bones? seemed to go wherever he wanted, whenever he wanted, and Rua seemed helpless to stop him.
However, Jones? striking coach, Mike Winkeljohn, had a different view of the competition from the fighter?s corner. According to ?Coach Wink,? Jones had plenty of adversity to overcome.
?There was a turning point after the second round where we were real scared, because [Jones] was tired,? Winkeljohn told Sherdog.com after the bout. ?He had pressed all day long. Well, s--t, the whole last two weeks, [cameras] following him around 24-7. I think all that hoopla got to him, and the pressure got to him a little bit. He was tired after the second round, and I was worried.?
?But you know what he did? He pushed through it, and that is a champion. That is a veteran. At 23 years old, that is incredible. All of a sudden, in the third round, he just decided, ?Yeah, I?m going to win this thing,? and he just went to another gear.?
Jones, who unexpectedly apprehended a robber in a New Jersey park just hours before the title bout, opened the fight with his trademark unorthodox standup attack. Though many would view spinning back kicks and elbow strikes as risky maneuvers in such an important fight, Winkeljohn asserts that those techniques did not concern him.
?The spinning elbow and the distraction kicks don?t worry me at all. What worried me was that ?Shogun? was trying to counter Jon?s punches. That?s where I thought we might have been in trouble,? said Winkeljohn. ?Sometimes Jon stayed in the pocket and didn?t bail out the right direction or the proper defense. That?s what scared me.?
Though Winkeljohn saw room for improvement in his pupil?s performance, the revered striking coach spoke proudly of Jones? poise and skill under the pressure of the moment.
?I see the progression in the gym. I was telling everybody that he could beat ?Shogun? standing up,? said Winkeljohn. ?I?ll never say it was easy, though. ?Shogun? is very tough, and he was inches away from a few counters in there when Jon was punching. But, for the most part, [Jon] dominated. He stayed long, and he hit him long and often. He [used] angles and he took [Rua] down when he wanted to. It was a great performance. I?m very happy. It?s the beginning of the Jon Jones era.?
Up next for the new champion is a defense of his title against friend and fellow Jackson?s MMA product Rashad Evans. Though the two had stated in the past that they would never clash in the cage, it appears that mentality has changed. Trainer Greg Jackson has vowed to help prepare neither man in the case of such a fight, but for Winkeljohn, the situation is a bit trickier.
I thought Jones had a style advantage which he obviously did. However, the truth is he is just all around better than Rua.
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you can`t argue with rua`s success...the guy has beaten some top notch guys with a swarming ,aggressive style...
if you watch his fights...even the machida k.o.,he`s a terrible technician...he`s a flailer.....but he flails with power...
honestly,vs jones he just couldn`t get close enough to make anything count...including the kicks....and he was scared to death to kick because there was a strong possibilty he would end up on his back...
jones` cornerman said jones was tired in or after the second......so i guess his measured attack at points where some(including me) thought he could finish, was necessary....
thee most impresssive thing about the fight aside from jones` obvious otherworldly skillset was his poise...very cool in there picking his spots...
and that gancho to the body at the end?...the leverage from all that length on that shot?...the final knee probably wasn`t necessary...a thing of beauty...
rua has stones though....he`s in there to fight,not to die...trying to tap was the smart thing to do...he`d taken way too much punishment...nobody should hold that against him.......he`s a tough mofo...
if you watch his fights...even the machida k.o.,he`s a terrible technician...he`s a flailer.....but he flails with power...
honestly,vs jones he just couldn`t get close enough to make anything count...including the kicks....and he was scared to death to kick because there was a strong possibilty he would end up on his back...
jones` cornerman said jones was tired in or after the second......so i guess his measured attack at points where some(including me) thought he could finish, was necessary....
thee most impresssive thing about the fight aside from jones` obvious otherworldly skillset was his poise...very cool in there picking his spots...
and that gancho to the body at the end?...the leverage from all that length on that shot?...the final knee probably wasn`t necessary...a thing of beauty...
rua has stones though....he`s in there to fight,not to die...trying to tap was the smart thing to do...he`d taken way too much punishment...nobody should hold that against him.......he`s a tough mofo...
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Rashad Evans: Disrespected by Jon Jones, Disappointed in Greg Jackson
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/3/2...ted-by-jon-jones-disappointed-in-greg-jackson
God Evans is a crybaby. Gimme a break.
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/3/2...ted-by-jon-jones-disappointed-in-greg-jackson
God Evans is a crybaby. Gimme a break.
