UFC 85: London 02 Arena, 6/7/08

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ok..... for the first pick of UFC 85:

Brandon Vera -120 (2.5 units)

tough matchup but i like this pick... ive been studying a lot of Werdum's past fights and i just dont think he has the tools to beat a hungry Vera. more than anything i think Werdum's takedown skills are poor... and the fight needs to be on the ground for him to have a chance IMO. also, ive noticed that he keeps it standing at the beginning of nearly all his fights/rounds. this will be a bad strategy against Brandon Vera and i dont think he'll make the necessary adjustments. Vera by TKO by mid 2nd.
 
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Vera should be very hungry indeed...should be a good fight...think the odds are right where they should be:SIB

and despite all the crazy fight changes...it does look like a good card:SIB
 
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Vera should be very hungry indeed...should be a good fight...think the odds are right where they should be:SIB
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i think the edge is in favor of Vera.... oh yea! thats why I bet on him :mj07:

i think Werdum will be limpin after three or four leg kicks... i highly respect him as a submission artist, but dont think he can put it on the ground... and if it does hit the ground ill take my chances on Vera's solid submission defense.

sometimes ya just gotta take a shot on the close ones...

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odds on Hughes fight are:


Matt Hughes $1.39 (-260)
Thiago Alves $3.00 (+200)
 
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well....two fights off now.....so now it looks like this:SIB


-Matt Hughes vs. Thiago Alves
-Marcus Davis vs. Mike Swick
-Rashad Evans vs. James Irvin
-Fabricio Werdum vs. Brandon Vera
-Martin Kampmann vs. Jorge Rivera
-Thiago Tavares vs. Matt Wiman
-Nate Marquardt vs. Thales Leites
-Luis Arthur Cane vs. Jason Lambert
-Neil Wain vs. Antoni Hardonk
-Ryo Chonan vs. Roan Carneiro
-Jess Liaudin vs. Paul Taylor


With all the changes.....kickserv might be on the card soon:142smilie
 
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obviously ya gotta get Bisping on the card (his hometown) maybe it is time to do something drastic and have him fight one of these guys:

Frank Trigg
Richardo Almeida
Kala Kolohe Hose

Yes I know none of these guys are UFC dudes, but with UFC cutting guys like crazy maybe it is time to bring in somebody new.....Trigg is a "free agent" and has been pissed off with DREAM so why not bring him back to UFC:shrug: The division is by far the weakest, might be time for drastic measures...and I think this is perfect timing:shrug: As I said, ya gotta get Bisping on there somehow:SIB


Also....I may be wrong but I think Cung Le is in contract negotiations with Elite.....why not snag him up. Him vs Bisping would be awsome. But yes I know I know.....way easier said then done, but hey why not:shrug:


And doesn't Quarry deserve a shot after that Kalib disaster:shrug:
 
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yea the card dried up a little w/o Leben. hes always a blast to watch.

i think they need to get Hendo back in the picture ASAP since he is one of their marquee guys at 185, but they may be saving him for another card. and they couldnt have him fight Bisping b/c he may kill him. literally. :142smilie :142smilie

Bisping and Quarry could make for a decent fight, though. and i know Quarry must feel like he had the night off last time out. :mj07:
 
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MATT LINDLAND is another the UFC should pick up. NOW. they r in desperate need for challengers at 185 and Dana White refuses to talk to Lindland :shrug: ... what an idiot. he says he wants top talent and Lindland wants back in the UFC and White wont even consider it. :nono: what a hypocrite.

Lindland even said he would fight his buddy DAN HENDERSON if it came down to it.. they have already wrestled in competition three or four times.. what a brawl that would be.

White is just being a baby. Lindland had a squeaky close decision against Rampage and that could make for an insane rematch in the future as well..

Also, Roy Jones Jr. called White "a little baby" for not allowing him to box Anderson Silva.. :142smilie I agree.
 
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I agree with you about Lindland.....lotta bad blood there though....as for Roy Jones issue...I am on Dana's side with that one:SIB

Maybe Dana will read this thread and get Bisping to fight one of our suggestions:142smilie
 
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Well its not like Anderson has anyone left to fight right now in the UFC :142smilie .. and the match was going to be well into the future.. Anderson wanted a good 6-8 months to train under the rules of boxing.

Roy has said he wouldnt be caught dead in a cage w/ Anderson (under MMA rules).. we all know how that would turn out... but a solid performance from Anderson in a boxing match would only help MMA imo.

doesnt matter cuz it wont happen. :(
 
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SWEET....I love Day...I told ya he's for real....but wew baby that will be a test for him.....if he beats Bisping he'll be right up there with GSP.....ok well not that high:142smilie

What a great break for Day........he's gonna be pumped to fight Bisping in the UK:scared


talk about a live dog......I'll be all over Day at big odds:SIB



Middleweight Jason Day......soon to be number 2 in the division

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odds out on Jason Day............


Jason Day $3.70 (+270)
Michael Bisping $1.28 (-360)


Day at $3.70....kickserv likes...yummy, yummy:SIB




also.......James Irvin at $3.55 (+255) and Matt Wiman at $4.37 (+337) look tempting:SIB
 
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Some more lines have come out and this is what I have bet so far.

Mike Swick -115 I just think he has more overall skill than Davis.

Nate Marquardt -150 Nate is very well rounded if a little boring.

Ricardo Almeida +125 TO THE LIMIT!! I will keep hitting this, to the limit, as often as there are plus odds. I like Cote but I can't believe he is favoured. Almeida is a beast.

Tavares/Chonan/Bisping parlay. I will not be surprised to lose this but it is worth the gamble to almost double up.

The odds have not come out yet but if they are favourable I will bet Martin Kampmann to beat Jorge Rivera.

Good luck all!!!
 
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kickserv said:
odds out on Jason Day............


Jason Day $3.70 (+270)
Michael Bisping $1.28 (-360)


Day at $3.70....kickserv likes...yummy, yummy:SIB




also.......James Irvin at $3.55 (+255) and Matt Wiman at $4.37 (+337) look tempting:SIB
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Kick what book are these odds from??

You dont have to answer that if u dont want to, of course..... just wonderin' cuz im scouting for new MMA books. :SIB

Anyone else that has experience w/ various MMA books (out of the preferred sportsbooks listed here at MadJack) ur recommendations would be much appreciated...?? ive heard nothing but good things about 5 dimes so far...

My lines for UFC 85 are junk compared to these! ALL the dogs listed above i'm getting funked on...
 
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odds are from 5dimes.......hands down best book on the planet.......as for MMA...they are clearly #1, not even a contests. They have odds on pretty much any MMA event you can think of, and props galore.
 
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Early picks...

Early picks...

...more to be added.

Marcus Davis (-115) : 3 units (maybe more :brows:)

oh boy this feels like a real steal to me. Think Davis eats Swick up within two rounds. Davis has been KOd only once (as a boxer) having been in the game (both as a boxer/MMAer) about 14 years and dont think Swick can take him down. Feel like Davis' training at Sityodtong Muay Thai will come in handy having sparred w/ people of similar body type as Swick (Murilo Rua, Jorge Rivera, even Florian though hes a bit smaller). After looking weak in his first fight at 170, i think Swick feels like hes back in the 185 lb. division once the bell rings...

Jason Day (+260) : 1 unit

consider this more of a value bet b/c i havent seen much of Day... however, he looked very solid both on his feet and on the ground against Belcher w/ a dangerous guard and some wicked elbows... if Day presses the action i think he has a decent shot against a very beatable Michael Bisping (IMO)... i know that UK crowd will be bumpin', but Day seems to have a very calm demeanor (and nothing to lose)...

...more or less a strategic investment on my part... McCarthy looked so poor last time out that i cant give Bisping much credit for that victory.
 
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kickserv said:
odds are from 5dimes.......hands down best book on the planet.......as for MMA...they are clearly #1, not even a contests. They have odds on pretty much any MMA event you can think of, and props galore.
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thanks kick.. 5dimes sounds like a must have.. u get odds for events that i havent seen anywhere else plus the parlays. im on it.
 
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